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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:18 AM Jun 2014

Oklahoma candidate for office posts on Facebook about death penalty for gays, cites old testament

Source: KJRH-TV

Scott Esk is running for House District 91 state representative. On his website, he describes himself as a conservative who wants to apply biblical principles to Oklahoma law.

“This is the first time I’ve ever come across an Oklahoman with this kind of fringe attitude," said Rob Morris, editor of the Moore Monthly magazine and the MooreDaily.com.

... Morris says he found the posts from last summer on Facebook. At the time, Esk commented on a story about the pope saying “Who am I to judge?” on homosexuality. Esk posted old testament scripture that referred to homosexuality being punished.

Another user asked for clarification: “So just to be clear, you think we should execute homosexuals (presumably by stoning)?” In response, Esk posted, “I think we would be totally in the right to do it. That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.”

Read more: http://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news/oklahoma-candidate-for-office-posts-on-facebook-about-death-penalty-for-gays-cites-old-testament

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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
1. Didn't Oklahoma pass a law banning Sharia Law in their state
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:22 AM
Jun 2014

And yet this guy wants to practice a version of Christian Sharia Law.

When the disciples asked Jesus what was the most important laws of God he didn't mention anything about Homosexuality being bad. He mentioned to 'Love God' and to 'Love one Another'.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
3. ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.”
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:36 AM
Jun 2014

I would like to ask this teabagging douche what exactly is worthy of death?
Way to reach new heights of being an asshole.

Tess49

(1,580 posts)
9. I wish we had a "like" button on here.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jun 2014

Well, give him some slack. He doesn't plan on trying to pass any laws that would make stoning people a form of punishment. You are right, he is a giant ass.

CurtEastPoint

(18,668 posts)
5. I went to his FB page and he's moaning about his wife keeping him from seeing his kids (2012)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:43 AM
Jun 2014

I wonder why. He's a fucking lunatic, maybe?

Tess49

(1,580 posts)
8. I saw that.too. He seemed to think that jail time would
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:49 PM
Jun 2014

do her some good. I think he's finished -- even here in red, red, red Okla.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
6. Just total and complete ignorance
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:49 PM - Edit history (1)

** Trying to influence the religious with factual argument, however, just doesn't work.**

Of course, nothing is this simple. Every person, to some extent, falls into both of these groups, although one or the other of the two tendencies usually dominates. So if you predominately fall into one of these groups and you come into conflict with someone of the other type, resist the temptation to vilify him/her, because there's some degree of him/her in you too.

But the conflicts that arise between these groups are serious, because their resolutions are often impossible, and legislative or judicial attempts to resolve them often prove to be ineffective.

An example of such a conflict is same sex marriage. This issue cannot be solved, and if a solution is imposed on the public, the opponents of that solution will continue to harbor resentment and make continual attempts to undo it. Issues like these are only resolved by time during which both the evidence and belief-structures slowly change.

The issue of slavery illustrates such a resolution. Lincoln imposed a solution on the issue by emancipating the slaves. But it took a long time for belief-structures to change for that solution to become accepted as the right one. Today, hardly anyone would defend slavery."

So when I say that Americans are religious, I don't mean religious in any conventional sense. What I mean is this:

There are people whose lives are pretty much lived in accordance with belief-structures. These people have never thought seriously about these structures, never questioned their validity, never have sought any evidence for them. None of these are thought to even be necessary. These belief-structures take on the attributes of absolute truths that are unquestionable, and no amount of evidence that contradicts these structures ever changes their minds. People who live this way are religious."

http://www.jkozy.com/Are_Americans_a_Religious_People__Emphatically_Yes_.htm



TlalocW

(15,392 posts)
7. I forget which one it is
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:05 PM
Jun 2014

But there's a smaller, fringe white supremacy group made up of bubbas who go out into the woods and shoot beer cans and dream of a coming race war that they can hide from and then jump on the coattails of when the danger is over. And it sounds kind of weird to say it because I of course don't believe in killing homosexuals or "curing" them or whatever, and I cheer whenever another state strikes down anti-marriage equality so the point I'm making sounds bad, but you've got all these "Christians" who are like these bubbas who say God says kill the gays or whatever, and they don't do anything about it. I don't want them to do anything about it, but it seems like crap like this falls into two camps:

1. Bubbas who claim that they know what God wants but don't want to follow through on it but talk about it in hopes others will
2. Just so much playground macho posturing in order to get neanderthals to vote for them

And not being gay, maybe I'm speaking out of turn, but I really, really wish we had a Westboro type group comprised of LGBTs who instead of holding up stupid signs would take a box of rocks and go and confront these assholes and tell him to put his money where his mouth is and show God he's on His side because you know the punk-ass would back down.

TlalocW

Mz Pip

(27,454 posts)
11. Old Testament Christians
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:13 PM
Jun 2014

I thought Christianity was all about the New Covenant where God stopped being a vengeful God and put out some new material, the New Testament. There was nothing about stoning Gays in the NewTestament.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
13. Caution, if people in Oklahoma would vote for a person like this, there are probably people ....
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 06:25 PM
Jun 2014

in the US that would also.

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