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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 08:54 AM Aug 2014

St. Louis alderman released from jail after arrest during Ferguson protest

Source: St. Louis Post Dispatch

St. Louis Alderman Antonio French emerged Thursday morning from a night in jail after his arrest at the Ferguson protests to say that the police officers' "heavy-handed" approach on the streets is making the situation worse.

French said he has no documentation that says why he was arrested, and that he was released about 7 a.m. today without having to post any bail. No police spokesman was available to explain why French was arrested.

French said he should never have been locked up, nor should the dozen or so others he shared cell space with overnight. "Inside that jail is nothing but peacekeepers," he said. "They rounded up the wrong people ... reverends, young people organizing the peace effort."

... When a reporter asked French today how he went from being in his car to being arrested, he said: "They open your door and drag you out." "They just rounded up anybody they could see," he said.

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-alderman-released-from-jail-after-arrest-during-ferguson/article_0806541b-ed48-5d06-9267-323531ad6cf1.html



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St. Louis alderman released from jail after arrest during Ferguson protest (Original Post) Newsjock Aug 2014 OP
I wonder if they think they're arresting the right people rbixby Aug 2014 #1
Geez, how did I ever guess that the arrested alderman wasn't white? groundloop Aug 2014 #2
Uhm ...there were whites in the crowd and there should have been more L0oniX Aug 2014 #4
Anon threatens to release photo of Police perpetrator Billy Budd Aug 2014 #3
Typical blackspade Aug 2014 #5
I wasn't going to respond, but... Syntheto Aug 2014 #6
I have to ask (from behind my keyboard near Washington, DC) justiceischeap Aug 2014 #8
Nice way to, and I'll put this lightly, mischaracterize Antonio French's interview. Humanist_Activist Aug 2014 #9
you are the race-baiter noiretextatique Oct 2014 #11
Sounds like time for lawsuits and pay-outs. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #7
Are the Police using General Gage's Playbook? One_Life_To_Give Aug 2014 #10

rbixby

(1,140 posts)
1. I wonder if they think they're arresting the right people
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 08:57 AM
Aug 2014

Arresting the peacekeepers makes the situation escalate to the point of using force more quickly perhaps? I don't know, but from reading a bunch of stories this morning and watching video of what happened last night, it seems like escalation is what they really want.

groundloop

(11,523 posts)
2. Geez, how did I ever guess that the arrested alderman wasn't white?
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 09:11 AM
Aug 2014

I'm also guessing I could have been in the exact same place and been totally left alone (because I'm white).

 

Billy Budd

(310 posts)
3. Anon threatens to release photo of Police perpetrator
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 09:30 AM
Aug 2014

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blackspade

(10,056 posts)
5. Typical
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 11:27 AM
Aug 2014

This is intimidation.

Round up random people and jail them without charge.
Then release to spread fear.

Sickening.

 

Syntheto

(297 posts)
6. I wasn't going to respond, but...
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 12:18 PM
Aug 2014

...but I live in Ferguson and I'm White. Antonio was interviewed on local station KMOX and when asked if he condemned the violence that saw many minority-owned business looted and the local Quik Trip burned to the ground, (which incidentally nearly caused the death of the two young men of color who were working there) he kept repeating that this has been building up for years, decades and this (looting and violence) wasn't going to end and would continue. When the interviewer kept pressing, Antonio would not explicitly condemn the violence and went so far to say that the White community needed to be terrorized so that they would put pressure on the 'White Power Structure' to make changes demanded by the Black community. I heard this myself and had to pull the car over because I couldn't believe that an elected official would say something so inflammatory in such a strained situation.

Ferguson is a Working Class suburb. We can't run off to our summer cottages or off to Europe, okay? We can't leave our mortgages and our property, so we're going to defend our homes and families, and we don't take threats like that laying down. You can type on your keyboard in some coffe shop in Seattle or Ames, Iowa and pontificate all you want, but we. live. here.

Those militarized police are there to intimidate, so what? Aren't those videos of looters destroying businesses (including the city's beloved animal hospital) intimidating? Wasn't Antonio French's sly assertion meant to intimidate? How are we, who live here, as opposed to you from all over the world supposed to feel? Those cops are there to make sure there is a cordon sanitare, not to form a praetorian guard around the rich Whites, because there are none here. It's to keep more Black kids from getting themselves killed by armed Working Class White people. Don't kid yourself about that.

Please post any story of a kinder, gentler approach that a police force used in a similar situation. The Germans? The Italians? The Japanese? Russians? Chinese? Anybody?

Personally, I say take the police completely out of the equation and bring in the National Guard. Make sure there are plenty of Black soldiers and give the command to a Black officer. Bring in the Bradley fighting vehicles. Set up check points, look for weapons by anybody, White or Black driving through, and if they aren't legit, arrest them. We don't need Barney Fife in combat fatigues, here.

I'm sorry about Mike Brown's death, but violence against neighbors is not the way to go about it, especially when those neighbors are armed and not very sympathetic to the idea that violence and looting is merely a different expression of the First Amendment and the right to assemble, another assertion I've been hearing.


As for Antonio French, he's a despicable POS trying to get his street cred up for the next election.

One more thing: Why is it when riots happen in any other city, you hear about the LA riots, the Detroit riots, the NYC riots, hell even the Des Moines or Tulsa riots, but here in St. Louis, it's the Ferguson riots? A town of less than forty thousand? The media has done our town a terrible disservice and people like Antonio (who is from the city of St. Louis, not Ferguson!) need to be exposed as the race baiters they are. When the inevitable happens and another Black kid gets killed at 1:30 in the morning trying to follow Antonio French's advice about terrorizing the White Community by breaking out car windows and robbing garages, the blood will be on his hands.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
8. I have to ask (from behind my keyboard near Washington, DC)
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 01:56 PM
Aug 2014

if ALL of the protestors acted as those that looted and burned the QT? Or were they an isolated few? Are there not elders in the community asking for calm (and I'm not talking about French but people who live in Ferguson--religious leaders, Michael Brown's own family, Al Sharpton)?

Is there not a documented problem with racial profiling in Ferguson by the police (and has been documented for the last 14 years). Is the white community in Ferguson demanding that the police do better policing? Taking them to task for profiling or is that okay with the white community in Ferguson because it doesn't affect them. Please don't deride people across the United States and the World for being outraged by what we're seeing in Ferguson because this isn't the first time the police used ham-fisted tactics against peaceful protesters (OWS). Any protest is going to attract a certain element and they cannot and will not be controlled and when that happens, the entire protest becomes a "riot" and all the black people that live in Ferguson become "thugs" by proxy.

I agree the police should be taken out this situation because it's obvious they are in way over their heads and had a huge hand in creating the problem in the first place. May I suggest that the neighbors join in against this injustice instead of sitting in their homes cuddling their guns?

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
9. Nice way to, and I'll put this lightly, mischaracterize Antonio French's interview.
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 03:41 PM
Aug 2014

Why not link to it, and let others decide rather than make your own...unique take on it.

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/08/14/charlie-brennan-thursday-august-14-stl-alderman-antonio-french-just-released-from-jail-listeners-sound-off-on-ferguson-shooting/

By the way, he fucking condemned the looting.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
11. you are the race-baiter
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 11:44 AM
Oct 2014

I am sure the White community shares your sentiment, and therein lies the problem. really...you could give a shit about the man who was killed, or the powerlessness of the black people in that town. when that town arrests darren wilson, when the WHITE community demands it, then we can have a conversation about YOU.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
7. Sounds like time for lawsuits and pay-outs.
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 12:19 PM
Aug 2014

The good burghers of St. Louis County should have to cough up for this.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
10. Are the Police using General Gage's Playbook?
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 04:52 PM
Aug 2014

It feels like I am reading from 1770's Boston instead of 21st century US.

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