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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:08 AM Aug 2014

British Officials Find 35 People Inside Shipping Container

Source: Voice of America

August 16, 2014 9:14 AM

British police say one man has died and at least 19 people have been hospitalized after they were found inside a shipping container at a port east of London.

Investigators say a total of 35 people, including women and children, were found inside the container on Saturday at the Tilbury Docks in Essex.

Police Superintendent Trevor Roe told reporters that port workers heard "screaming and banging" inside the container, which had arrived on a ship from the Belgian port of Zeebrugge.

He said authorities have been searching other containers from the ship, in case there are more people inside.

Read more: http://www.voanews.com/content/british-officials-find-35-people-inside-shipping-countainers/2415526.html

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British Officials Find 35 People Inside Shipping Container (Original Post) IDemo Aug 2014 OP
from ? to Belgium? riverwalker Aug 2014 #1
Port authorities should be searching EVERY container that comes into port. Hulk Aug 2014 #2
How about body searches of all passengers at airports? intaglio Aug 2014 #3
I'm guessing that's what I'm suggesting. Hulk Aug 2014 #6
In other words you had not thought about it, just reacted from your gut intaglio Aug 2014 #7
Yep T_i_B Aug 2014 #8
How about we just make all shipping containers out of glass snooper2 Aug 2014 #4
Well, if money's no object... Turborama Aug 2014 #10
I feel so sorry for these folk Skittles Aug 2014 #5
I believe this happens often flamingdem Aug 2014 #9

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
1. from ? to Belgium?
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 12:09 PM
Aug 2014

Investigators say they do not know where the container originated. They say the survivors are believed to be from the "Indian subcontinent."

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
2. Port authorities should be searching EVERY container that comes into port.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 12:17 PM
Aug 2014

Dogs, personnel, and technology if necessary. Cost?? Sure, a bundle. But how else do you stop the smuggling of narcotics, weapons, contraband, and humans?? It may slow shit down, but maybe shit needs to be slowed down. Besides...it's a boat load of employment and training of dogs, etc. Good for the economy!! People WON'T vote for higher taxes...maybe they'll suck it up in higher prices at Walmart and elsewhere. That's not to pick on the Walmart shoppers, as many are low income. But it will focus on EVERY consumer. Even the high end stores are stocked with 90% China and elsewhere today.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
3. How about body searches of all passengers at airports?
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 02:01 PM
Aug 2014

Cavity searches for all those who seem suspicious.

Tilbury is a fairly small container port and handles nearly 1400 containers per day. Those figures are only for the containers on the dockside and ignore those not unloaded. Due to size and weight you would need a dedicated container handling crane, at least 3 officers (to minimise pilfering), an area where the front 20ft of the container could be unloaded, special customs clearance etc. etc. Each search would probably average 2 hours plus documentation time. That comes out to nearly 1200 man days per day; 1400 x 2 x 3/8 + fudge factor for the crane driver and the paper shuffling but not allowing for time off (sickness, holidays, statutory training requirements), disruption to port activities and the thousand other factors I do not know about.

Felixstowe, Britain's largest container port handles 4 times that many containers

You have absolutely no idea

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
6. I'm guessing that's what I'm suggesting.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:06 PM
Aug 2014

As for having "no idea", I appreciate your condescending comment. I'm sure you have all the ideas. Fact is, the first time something significant comes in to this country via container that causes massive casualties or destruction, you might be singing a different tune.

Don't care to argue the point with such an "all knowing" mind as yours. You've managed to pump it up to the max extreme. Again, I'll save my time from responding to your insulting post.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
7. In other words you had not thought about it, just reacted from your gut
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 06:06 AM
Aug 2014

Well, that's great if you are a soldier in imminent danger but bad in more complex situations.

BTW your "...first time something significant comes in to this country via container that causes massive casualties or destruction," is no different from the idiotic and expensive response of the US Government to 9/11 and the "shoe bomber". The truth is that we live in a world where mass destruction is easily engineered - no matter what searches and preventative measures are undertaken. How, for example would you prevent a USS Cole style attack on a cruise liner? Ban all RIBs?

T_i_B

(14,749 posts)
8. Yep
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 07:32 AM
Aug 2014

Also, security at Tilbury is pretty decent to be honest. I'd be asking more questions about what was happening at the place of origin.

Skittles

(153,202 posts)
5. I feel so sorry for these folk
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 05:17 PM
Aug 2014

what they must be escaping from, to put themselves through such an ordeal

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