Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown shot

[LiberalElite]

Source: CNN.com

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(CNN) -- Could a newly released audio provide more clues on what led up to Michael Brown's shooting death?

The FBI has questioned a man who says he recorded audio of gunfire at the time Brown was shot by Ferguson police on August 9, the man's attorney told CNN.

In the recording, a quick series of shots can be heard, followed by a pause and then another quick succession of shots.

Forensic audio expert Paul Ginsberg analyzed the recording and said he detected at least 10 gunshots -- a cluster of six, followed by four.
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Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/michael-brown-ferguson-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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Note that the "attorney" in the title is the attorney of the man who recorded the gunshots.

[heaven05]

1. WOW!!!!

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one sided firefight. also, IF this PO was suffering from such a serious eye injury where is the report of the hospital visit and surgery that would have been necessary with such a serious injury? I'd really also like to hear from store clerk from alleged robbed store. Oh it just keep adding up to ZERO all these claims of struggle and self defense of poor officer wilson.

[cleduc]

2. One curious thing:

where's the sound of the shot that supposedly happened in the car? According to the accounts I've read or heard, he didn't shoot six times in the car. It was one shot.

The sound of the shots is quite clear. The car window had to be open for the struggle. Why don't we hear that first shot? I expect it wasn't as loud because it was in the car but those shots are so clear outside the car, I would have expected to hear something from the open window of the car. Maybe it's before the part of the tape CNN played?

The other thing the officer will have to explain are two general decisions to shoot: the first burst and the second burst. There's some time in between to deliberate so two separate decisions got made to use deadly force. Can he really convince that his life or the lives of others was in danger both times? Can he defend that he didn't put other innocent lives in more danger by rattling off all those shots on a residential street -many that missed? I think he's got a real problem there and the audio pause really helps to accentuate that.

[HooptieWagon]

6. I doubt the officer will be explaining anything...

...especially under oath.

[cleduc]

10. I agree

I'll rephrase

I hope the Grand Jury makes his lawyer provide an explanation in a criminal court.

I think I'm a fair person, "innocent until proven guilty" and all for due process, etc.

But I think Mike Brown's family and friends and America needs to hear very clearly why an unarmed young man got shot down under the scrutiny of a court carefully examining all the evidence and testimony.

[OneGrassRoot]

14. Excellent, excellent point. n/t

[candelista]

17. Maybe the recorder wasn't turned on until after the 1st shot was heard.

[Jackpine Radical]

3. Actually, I think it might be 11 shots.

And there's something about the circumstantiality of the whole thing that really lends to its credibility.

To be honest, I had real doubts about how someone might just have been taping at the exact moment of the shooting, and might have suspected that the tape was faked by some overeager person, but after hearing it I really don't have much question about its authenticity. The guy just keeps on talking his line to the woman, oblivious to what's going down outside, & the shots are heard over his voice. I think any jury on hearing this would also be convinced that it's real.

One thing about that CNN story, though--they keep referring to "Josie's" story in the same breath as the eyewitness accounts, as if it had the same validity. That's bullshit. Josie was only repeating Wilson's story--sort of a surrogate spokesperson for Wilson, whose lawyers undoubtedly want him clammed up, but still want a good, jury-contaminating alternative story out there. I don't fault the lawyers for the move (if it tracks back to them, as I believe), but I do fault CNN for giving it continued credence.

[HooptieWagon]

4. Witness was on computer with video conference...

type of thing. Gunfire was recorded along with call. He may not have even realized it had been recorded until playing it back.

[Jackpine Radical]

8. That's right. That's what makes it so credible.

It sounded like he was so intent on hitting on this chick (presumably) that he was oblivious to the gunshots, which weren't all that loud on the tape anyway.

[rurallib]

5. I am kind of ignorant on guns

does that mean Wilson stopped to reload?

Makes one wonder if there was any checking of the victim or just another unload of the gun into the victim.
Like I said - I am ignorant of guns.

[HooptieWagon]

7. No. Officer almost certainly not using a 6-shot revolver.

Virtually all PDs switched to semi-auto handguns roughly 20 years ago. Clip holds 10-15 cartridges, depending on model.
Just a guess, but pause is probably when Brown stopped, turned around, and raised his hands. Officer had to reaquire target as Brown was turning.

[rurallib]

9. thank you

[lancer78]

11. It also fits the officers story

the pause could have been when Brown paused, and then resumed when Brown charged the officer. So the gunfire pattern could fit both accounts.

[spinbaby]

12. Really?

You think an unarmed teen is going to charge someone who's shooting at him? You think ANY sane person is going to run towards gunfire?

[Myrina]

15. +1

n/t

[lancer78]

20. Really?

Do you really think an officer is going to keep shooting someone in broad daylight who has turned around and put his arms up? Something just does not fit with the sound of the gunfire and the conflicting stories.

[HooptieWagon]

13. Officer doesn't have a story.

He never filed a report. There's the PD story, but they haven't released their report, and who knows where they got the story... all we know is that it seems to change daily. Then there's "Josie's" story... which by any definition is hearsay.
OTOH, there's 5 eyewitnesses, whose stories pretty much agree. The audio doesn't conflict, so I think it would coloberate. The PD might alter their story again to fit the audio... but at some point even the PD backers have to begin to doubt an ever-evolving story.

[csziggy]

19. Not one of the eye witnesses said Michael Brown "charged" the officer

Only "Josie" who is parroting Wilson's story makes that claim. She was not an eye witness and according to her own claims she didn't even hear the story directly from Darren Wilson, just a version from his wife.

Here is a video of the four key eye witnesses with interviews overlapped:

Not one of them fits with the claims from "Josie" but taken together they all fit with each other.

[demigoddess]

16. the link led to another

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video of Brown's body being left on the street and many neighbors gathering around upset and yelling, but the officers do not seem to be in fear of their lives. If every black person is a threat to a cop they should have been afraid then, but one cop and just one guy in the street, then the guy is afraid for his life??? doesn't make sense to me.

[candelista]

18. You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead.