Venezuelan Socialist Party swaps God for Chavez in new prayer

[Zorro]

Source: Reuters

A member of Venezuela's Socialist Party has rolled out a variation of the classic Christian "Lord's Prayer" to implore beloved late leader Hugo Chavez for protection from the evils of capitalism.

"Our Chavez who art in heaven, the earth, the sea and we delegates," red-shirted delegate Maria Estrella Uribe recited on Monday at the PSUV party Congress.

"Hallowed be your name, may your legacy come to us so we can spread it to people here and elsewhere. Give us your light to guide us every day," she said in front of an image of Chavez.

"Lead us not into the temptation of capitalism, deliver us from the evil of the oligarchy, like the crime of contraband, because ours is the homeland, the peace and life forever and ever. Amen. Viva Chavez!" she exclaimed to applause.

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I wonder what will happen when those prayers aren't answered.

[Fred Sanders]

1. Nothing wrong with the end of the prayer.

[amuse bouche]

2. The entire thing is an improvement over the original

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Non-fiction is just better. Not much better, but at least he wasn't a fictional character

[Fred Sanders]

3. Swapping god out with a secular prayer is not a problem for me.

[JEB]

11. Definitely an up-grade.

A mythological figure for an historical one. Makes a lot more sense.

[Drunken Irishman]

13. The Chavez the left has created is most certainly fictional.

There is nothing non-fiction about the mythos.

[Archae]

14. Reminds me of North Korea and thier "Dear Leader..."

And our right-wing and Reagan.

[Drunken Irishman]

16. Yup.

[MADem]

19. BINGO. You win the thread--that's it exactly! nt

[Adrahil]

30. A classic cult of personality.

This has always been popular among certain facets of socialist-communist revolutionaries, and it's unfortunate, IMO. It tends to create incestuous political machines that stagnate, decay, and cause harm to the country, instead of forwarding a dynamic, progressive agenda. The Kim's of North Korean, the Leninist/Stalinst machine of the Soviet Union, the Castros in Cuba, and now the Chavistas in Venezuela.

In order to be effective, government..... ANY government must be open to unorthodox or ideas opposed the dominant paradigm. These cults tend to be come insulated, isolated and stagnant, leading to a mess of an economy. China is still an oppressive place, but they've managed some measure of economic success because they rejected strict, slavish loyalty to a Maoist dynasty.... Sue they pay lip service, but that's it.

[amuse bouche]

20. Sorry, didn't know Chavez was fictional

[Drunken Irishman]

21. His legacy as a leftist hero absolutely is.

[amuse bouche]

22. Oh, so he was a real human

aka non-fiction

[Drunken Irishman]

23. Not in the light as he's presented here on DU...

[Adrahil]

31. Don't be obtuse....

Historical figures are factionalized all the time. Look at the bullshit fantasy versions of our Founding Fathers that some in this country like to parade around. They barely resemble the actual person.

[Judi Lynn]

32. We know they "created" this country for white racist, misogynistic, Christian men, and no one else

but first they had to slaughter all the people who lived here already who wouldn't just drop dead somewhere. That's what
Our Savior wanted them to do. He wanted to get things done.

Later on, he told their descendants to kill all the buffaloes on the Plains, and stack as many in mountains of flesh as possible to destroy the food and materials the Native Americans needed for nourishment and shelter, etc.

For images, please refer to this link:

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4TSND_enUS566US566&q=United%20States%20Army%20buffalo%20slaughter%20piles&gws_rd=ssl&tbm=isch

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Bison skull pile

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[amuse bouche]

34. Nothing obtuse about it

Just your lack of comprehending my point, which is the usual figure they pray to, is

much more a myth than Chavez.


Too bad some read so much bullshit into a simple point

[Adrahil]

35. I think praying in general is a bad idea....

... but this attempt to virtually deify Chavez is ridiculous!

He was a human being, and a flawed one.

[951-Riverside]

4. This is a non-story.

This is no different from Capt Johnson praying before every news conference while officers under his command were bashing in heads, threatening people, arresting journalists and arresting legal observers.

[christx30]

5. I don't know.

I get kind of creeped out whenever any world leader is raised up to God-like status. It shows there is no healthy disrespect/distrust there between the leader and his people.
And a God-like leader (or his successor) can do anything he wants.

[Archae]

6. Reminds me of another "Socialist Paradise..."

North Korea and "Dear Leader."

[christx30]

15. And things have turned out so well for them.

, though I hope I don't need it.

[rpannier]

28. They haven't referenced themselves as Socialist or Communist since 1982

But you are spot on with the reference
In 2005, I went on the Gaeseong Tour in North Korea and as part of teh tour they took us to Cheon-ma San. There, on the trail, they have a rock that is engraved with prayers for/to both Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong-il. Praying for this divine guidance and wisdom to be set upon the mere masses and that both men are protected (one in life the other in death)
I'm guessing that now they have one carved for Kim Jeong-un
It was easily the creepiest and most surreal tour I've ever been on

[Ash_F]

7. Uh oh certain posters are going to jump on this like red meat. /nt

[Throd]

8. Nope, not creepy in the least.

[pinto]

9. LOL. Admiration for a former, beloved political leader is one thing. This is ludicrous.

"Our Washington, who art in heaven"....

[geek tragedy]

10. totally not creepy , that said zombie Hugo Chavez would be better than Maduro nt

[freshwest]

12. Humans *love* cults where belief surpasses brains too tired to see the bigger picture.

Otherwise, that is a cute parody. Sorry about the inevitable body count from cults. So many of them.

[hrmjustin]

17. Creepy imo.

[amuse bouche]

24. Indeed

Praying to dead or fictional characters could easily be categorized as creepy...or even something much worse

[hrmjustin]

25. I am not arguing my faith.

[amuse bouche]

29. Argue? None needed

Your rituals are not creepy. Their rituals are creepy

Case closed

[littlemissmartypants]

18. She got Somebody's attention.

Please tell me this wasn't followed by a seance and ouiji board games...

?

Any one?

[bananas]

26. Chavez was a liberal Catholic who promoted liberation theology

At conservativecrackpots.com, they hate liberal Catholics and liberal theology.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2013-03-14/hugo-chavez-and-vatican

Hugo Chavez and the Vatican

PRI's The World
Host Marco Werman
Reporter John Otis
March 14, 2013

The election of the first Latin American Pope sparked celebrations across the region, which is home to 40 percent of the world's Catholics. But many Latin American governments now lean to the left.

And they've clashed with Church officials over their rejection of gay marriage, abortion, and liberation theology. Their No. 1 critic was Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, who died last week of cancer.

Chavez was a practicing Catholic who promoted liberation theology, which holds that priests should help the poor by working for political and social change. Chavez had no stomach for the conservative Catholic hierarchy in Rome or in Caracas.

<snip>

In life, Chavez likely would have scoffed at the new Pope Francisco. But Wednesday interim President Nicolas Maduro suggested that, from the great beyond, Chavez helped get him elected.

"We know that our commander reached those heights," said Maduro, "and he's face to face with Christ. Something had an influence on the choosing of a South American pope."

[rpannier]

27. Reminds me of my trip to Gaeseong in 2005

At Cheon Ma mountain there is a rock and engraved on two sides of the rock are prayers to Gim Il Sung and (at the time the living) Gim Jeong-il.
This sounds disturbingly similar

[Adrahil]

37. Establishing an emotional link with the personalities involved is essential to these folks...

... it ties criticism of policy to criticism of the elevated person. That's always dangerous.

[Bacchus4.0]

33. weirdos n/t

[msanthrope]

36. St. Hugo! Of course, that means "Stuffed Hugo" to me! nt

[Iamthetruth]

38. That should pretty much solve all their problems.

Morons