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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 09:40 AM Sep 2014

Maduro replaces Venezuela's longtime oil chief

Source: AP

President Nicolas Maduro has replaced Venezuela's longtime oil boss and economic czar, sidelining the most-prominent voice within his administration for pragmatic reforms to tackle a deep economic crisis.

Rafael Ramirez had served as oil minister and president of the state-run oil giant PDVSA for more than a decade, earning a reputation as a loyal servant of the late Hugo Chavez's socialist revolution. He saw his power within the government expand dramatically a year ago when Maduro tapped him as vice president for economic policy, giving him effective oversight of everything from the country's foreign currency reserves to the price of gasoline.

As part of what Maduro called a new assignment for the 50-year-old engineer, Ramirez was designated foreign minister and given a newly created position of vice president for political sovereignty.

Maduro's Cabinet shuffle Tuesday night was widely anticipated after his ministers collectively offered their resignations two weeks ago. But few Venezuelans expected such a dramatic demotion for Ramirez, who looked on long-faced as the president thanked him for his past service in front of an audience of top military and civilian officials at the presidential palace.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/maduro-replaces-venezuelas-longtime-oil-044709476.html



Replacing the voice of pragmatic reforms with Hugo Chavez's cousin?

I have my doubts that this change will make things better in Venezuela.
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Maduro replaces Venezuela's longtime oil chief (Original Post) Zorro Sep 2014 OP
If he has been in charge of oil and their collapsing economy, then he won't be missed. FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #1
How is the economy collapsing? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #2
The economy is collapsing. IronGate Sep 2014 #3
Like I said, innuendo and empty claims, no stats, no expertise, just bald faced claims.....useless. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #7
No, well documented claims if you would use google. IronGate Sep 2014 #13
They are projected by experts to have the biggest drop in GDP in the developed world. FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #4
Greece, Italy, Spain, even America at one time, had single low digit recessions....big deal. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #8
Well, it's obvious you don't want to hear anything that conflicts with what you want to hear. FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #11
Skyrocketing inflation, food shortages, no foreign currency reserves, falling oil production hack89 Sep 2014 #5
Where is the beef in your bun? Where is the proof? What are the stats? Just saying so is just saying Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #9
Why not come back when someone posts that the CIA is actively destabilizing Venezuela? Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #10
You are new to the conversation here hack89 Sep 2014 #12
Try the water fluoridation conspiracy thread. You'll feel right at home. n/t Psephos Sep 2014 #15
Here are a few answers... Throd Sep 2014 #6
I know, huh? They are like disciples of Joe McCarthy. nt Zorra Sep 2014 #16
Chavistas are like disciples of Charlie McCarthy Zorro Sep 2014 #17
Sorry, but I just don't trust this Maduro guy. blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #14

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
1. If he has been in charge of oil and their collapsing economy, then he won't be missed.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 10:24 AM
Sep 2014


President Nicolas Maduro has a lack of credibility though and I doubt he will choose anyone any better.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. How is the economy collapsing?
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 10:42 AM
Sep 2014

I heard innuendo and individual stories, which you hear in every country, but what do the experts as opposed to pundits say?

Why are members of DU not supporting a socialist experiment mixed with capitalism?

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
3. The economy is collapsing.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 10:47 AM
Sep 2014

Their infrastructure is falling apart, the electrical grid is decaying, there are chronic shortages of basic goods, massive govt. corruption, massive crime rate, massive human rights violations by the govt on the opposition, etc.

Why should DU members walk in lockstep when it's pretty obvious that the VN experiment has failed miserably?

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
13. No, well documented claims if you would use google.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 03:00 PM
Sep 2014

Try it and learn instead of dismissing it just because you don't agree with the claim.

But if you want to stick your head in the sand and not research the truth, you're free to do so, just don't expect those of us in the know to walk in lockstep with you and not challenge your lack of knowledge.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
4. They are projected by experts to have the biggest drop in GDP in the developed world.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 10:53 AM
Sep 2014


Socialist or not, it's a sign of mismanagement.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Greece, Italy, Spain, even America at one time, had single low digit recessions....big deal.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 01:52 PM
Sep 2014

-9% in 4th quarter 2008 for America, remember that?

Like I said, big deal, still not a collapsing economy, is it?

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
11. Well, it's obvious you don't want to hear anything that conflicts with what you want to hear.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 02:23 PM
Sep 2014

The sources from experts have been posted and are easy to find online, if you choose to cover your ears that's your problem.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
5. Skyrocketing inflation, food shortages, no foreign currency reserves, falling oil production
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 10:54 AM
Sep 2014

well documented and discussed in depth here.

Toss in a sky rocketing violent crime rate and it is clear things are going poorly in VZ.

Nothing wrong with a socialist experiment mixed with capitalism as long as one is realistic and willing to make changes if things are not going as expected. It is clear things are not going as expected.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. Where is the beef in your bun? Where is the proof? What are the stats? Just saying so is just saying
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 01:55 PM
Sep 2014

How has the economy collapsed, it has not.

American media is once again weaponized its propaganda to attack a country once owned by super rich and now owned by the people. Of course they do and of course far too many are caught in the web of lies. Of course there will be struggles and lying by the rich....look around, same thing in America.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
10. Why not come back when someone posts that the CIA is actively destabilizing Venezuela?
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 01:59 PM
Sep 2014

Because certain posters do that every time there isn't enough asswipe to go around in
Caracas.

You can come back and assure them of the soundness of the Venezuelan economy, as you're
doing here.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
12. You are new to the conversation here
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 02:56 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Wed Sep 3, 2014, 06:26 PM - Edit history (1)

why not spend the time searching and reading? Not my job to spoon feed you months of discussion in a single post.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
17. Chavistas are like disciples of Charlie McCarthy
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 11:06 PM
Sep 2014

Wooden-headed puppets parroting the Venezuelan government's lines.

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