Pat Buchanan: Immigrants A 'Greater Threat' Than ISIS

[big_dog]

Source: Right Wing Watch

In an interview with Laura Ingraham, former Republican Presidential candidate Pat Buchanan warned that immigration and the resulting “decomposition of this country socially, culturally, politically” is more of a danger to the U.S. than the terrorists of ISIS.

“Look, we’d better realize here that the United States itself is in tremendous long-term danger, I think, and the bleeding border along our southern border, the mass movement of people from all over the world into this country, the decomposition of this country socially and culturally, politically, all of these things, it seems to me, are far greater long-term threats to the United States than even those dreadful characters over there in Syria or Iraq beheading people,” Buchanan said in audio.

Buchanan went on to echo Phyllis Schlafly’s warning that new immigrants will largely vote Democratic, thereby destroying America.



Read more: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/pat-buchanan-immigrants-greater-threat-isis

[PeoViejo]

1. Native Peoples agree with you wholeheartedly, Pat

Hoka Hey!

[Brigid]

19. And we have our thread winner right off the bat.

[PeoViejo]

23. ...

[edhopper]

2. Yeah,

but Buchanan is a bigot, so, you know.....

[tridim]

3. Yes Pat, we already know you're a racist asshole.

I'd call you a threat, but you're just like all the other racists assholes in your party. Racist to the core, anti-America, stupid and weak.

[big_dog]

6. back in 1992, he was the presidential standard bearer for the Tea Party wing of the GOP!

clearly not much has changed in 23 years

[Psephos]

30. Tea Party started in 2009.

But it's true he was supported 20 years ago in a short-lived presidential try by the xenophobes, reactionaries, and get-off-my-lawners.

Twenty years haven't mellowed him or his supporters one bit.

[pampango]

36. You're right. He really represented the "Know Nothing" wing of the GOP. :)

They were the 19th century's version of the modern tea party.

[Enrique]

4. immigrants are sapping our precious bodily fluids

it's a fact.

[lunasun]

26. Aren't they bringing Ebola over the border daily ?

[AlbertCat]

5. I thought: "Who the hell would bother to interview Pat Buchanan???"

Oh! "In an interview with Laura Ingraham...."

No wonder.

Is there a way to make this even MORE irrelevant? Interviewing Dick Cheney at the same time, I suppose.

[malthaussen]

7. Well, he's got that right.

Or almost right. Is zero greater than zero?

-- Mal

[global1]

8. What Buchanan Should Have Said......

“Look, we’d better realize here that the United States itself is in tremendous long-term danger, I think, and the consistent obstruction of the Republicans and their lack of cooperation in Congress, the absolute lies being spread by Fox News and right wing pundits to people all over this country, the escalation of military hardware to the police forces of this country; the overt racism and bigotry socially, culturally and politically, all these things, it seems to me, are far greater long-term threats to the United States than even those dreadful characters over there in Syria or Iraq beheading people," Buchanan should have said.

[jmowreader]

17. That's what a rational person might have said

Pat Buchanan isn't rational.

[redstatebluegirl]

9. Nice to know Pat is still stupid after all these years!

[pampango]

10. Note he is talking about all immigration, not just 'illegal immigrants'. Shows the real right-wing

mentality that has surfaced continuously going back at least to the "Know Nothings" of the 1840's.

[cosmicone]

13. Yes, and I believe at one point he distinguished immigration of the past

from that of the present saying something like "in the past the immigrants who came did not threaten the mainstream culture unlike the immigrants of today who are not a good fit to what America was. The immigration of today will make America a third world country."

He could have simplified it by saying "White European Christian immigration is fine, but brown-skinned people are a threat."

Thank god he is old and irrelevant or Pat would have been extremely dangerous.

[still_one]

11. Pat Buchanan A 'Greater Threat' to America than ISIS

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

12. Apparently, the real danger for Buchanan is that these immigrants would vote for Democrats.

I am reminded of Molly Ivins' comment after Buchanan's "Culture War" speech at the Republican convention in 1992, that it probably sounded better in the original German.

Buchanan claims to be a Catholic. Buchanan, who called Francisco Franco a "personal hero", seems to have missed all of Jesus's talk about loving your neighbor. He also ignores Catholic social teaching.

[big_dog]

21. this must be the wingnut talking point because Phyllis Schlafly said same thing yesterday

any change in immigration policy=democratic voter fraud

[liberalgunwilltravel]

14. In this case you're right Pat

We should have been more selective when allowing your Irish ancestors in. You are clearly more of a threat to the US than religious extremists. Oh wait, you are a religious extremist.

[merrily]

15. How MSNBC got away with his being its consultant for so long is beyond me.

Didn't realize he was a xenophobe? Give me a break.

[abakan]

16. Why oh why hasn't he reached his sell by date yet?

If there was ever something rotten to the core, it has to be this religious terrorist.

[Brigid]

18. Um, Pat . . .

I do believe some desperate immigrant just trying to survive is a lot less dangerous to this country than some psycho whose favorite hobby is beheading journalists.

[Cartoonist]

20. What Pat fears

He mourns the loss of Euro-centrism more than the fall of the United States. It's a cultural thing, like he says. In a way, I kind of agree. Immigrants have their own culture, thank you, and don't need much of ours. I regret that future generations will not remember the Beatles, who changed the world without trying. I don't know what Pat treasures, but he can clearly see that immigrants don't share his love. I really don't believe it can be stopped. I've come to accept it. Nature takes its course. Perhaps if the USA had not looted and oppressed Latin America, there wouldn't be such a massive migration.
This is also the result of no birth control, something Pat might want to reconsider. It's also Ironic that Pat is a Catholic. Most of the population he decries is also Catholic. Skin color trumps religion. So much for the power of God.

[lunasun]

27. Oh FFS & why would they not know the Beatles etc. do you think they came chipping arrowheads

In loin cloth ? Before coming here?
How much does a wasp American born 14 year old know about the Beatles now or ever? The Beatles were. British Invasion to some in the 60's
Any 14 year old can tell you the country is changing period.l they have their own American culture and yes is it different from Pat and your old days. Boohoo

[Cartoonist]

28. Boo Hoo indeed

The Beatles will live on for a few hundred years or so. Like Beethoven. But they are a fading influence. And so it goes. As the world turns.

[lunasun]

33. Neither the Beatles nor Beethoven were American and have been appreciated over much of the world

at certain points in time more revered than other times. They may have been part of your individual American experience , but it is xenoscopic to not realize they are / have been appreciated in many cultures.

Pat always like to promote this kind of disconnect. Too bad he is also disconnected from his own immigration history

The roughest welcome of all would be in Boston, Massachusetts, an Anglo-Saxon city with a population of about 115,000. It was a place run by descendants of English Puritans, men who could proudly recite their lineage back to 1620 and the Mayflower ship.

Now, some two hundred thirty years later, their city was undergoing nothing short of an unwanted "social revolution" as described by Ephraim Peabody, member of an old Yankee family.

Proper Bostonians pointed and laughed at the first Irish immigrants stepping off ships wearing clothes twenty years out of fashion. They watched as the newly arrived Irishmen settled with their families into enclaves that became exclusively Irish near the Boston waterfront along Batterymarch and Broad Streets, then in the North End section and in East Boston. Irishmen took any unskilled jobs they could find such as cleaning yards and stables, unloading ships, and pushing carts.

[Cartoonist]

35. Do you read my posts before responding to them?

It doesn't sound like it. When did I say the Beatles were American? I said Euro-centrism. Europe, where the white folk grow. Where white culture comes from.
I live in an area with a lot of Hispanic immigrants. Many of them are friends. I never hear any Beatles on their radios. There's nothing wrong with that, to each his own. It just means that their culture will supplant ours as their numbers increase. That's what Pat doesn't want.
And what does Boston have to do with anything I said?

Upon further examination:
The Beatles owe a lot of their success to the influence of black musicians. Most notably Chuck Berry and Little Richard. Jazz, Blues, and Rock & Roll wouldn't exist without the black man. So it's not all about Euro-centrism. Pat probably doesn't care about that, but I don't hear them on Mexican radio either.

So what are you passionate about? Do Hispanics care about what you like? If not, then prepare to watch it fade along with everything else white.

Even deeper examination:
Is not Spain part of Europe? Didn't they kill all the native Americans and rape all the women? Why is there such a cultural divide between us?

[lunasun]

37. Well neither are at the height of their popularity but I do not think it has much to do

With the current wave of immigration
Actually the Beatles were thought of as cultural deviants when first playing in many cultures

Here you go ask your neighbors to turn on the Spanish oldies station
I never hear the Beatles or Beethoven on English speaking C&W stations ,why is that ?why do they want to bring down
And supplant ?

http://www.latintimes.com/beatles-50th-anniversary-collection-spanish-listen-legendary-songs-covered-latino-artists-150512


http://www.amazon.com/Tropical-Tribute-Beatles-Celia-Cruz/dp/B00000125I

[Cartoonist]

38. The larger issue

There are country covers of Lennon/McCartney also. I was merely using the Beatles as an example of white culture on the skids. Classical music accounts for something like 1% of music sales. Sorry Ludwig. Yes, I know today's million sellers are doomed to obscurity in just a handful of years. Ars longa, vita brevis as the Greeks used to say. This is what troubles Pat. He feels his Ars is soon to be Brevis.

[lunasun]

39. Well unless immigrants account for all music sales currently in the US I hardly see them to blame

For classical music's drop here
I do not believe there is any one group to point to as much as accept it is just progression with out labeling it the result of immigration recently by non Europeans . Plus I am going to guess that 1% includes a lot of immigrants!

10 years ago the lament would have been African American influences on music trends which are not white but still American as Apple pie

Might want to look to the post WW II 50 years' white buying majority who failed to introduce
an appreciation of fine arts to their American born children or never had it themselves but recent furners are an easier target I guess now.


FYI not white not American but sales are booming elsewhere and it is being carried on for the future so no panic about the survival of classical music unless you are xeno like Pat

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/02/world/asia/02iht-china.html?pagewanted=all
More profoundly, classical music executives believe that the art form is being increasingly marginalized in the West by a sea of popular culture and new media.

Fewer young American listeners find their way to classical music, largely because of the lack of music education, which was widespread in public schools two generations ago. As a result, many orchestras and opera houses are struggling.

China, with an estimated 30 million piano students and 10 million violin students, is on an opposite trajectory. Tests to enter the top conservatories now attract nearly 200,000 students a year, compared with a few thousand annually in the 1980s, according to the Chinese Musicians Association.



http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2012/02/can_asians_save_classical_music_.html


Despite classical’s deserved reputation as the whitest of genres, Asian attendance rates match or surpass the national average up through the 45- 54 age range. To put it one way, the younger the classical audience gets, the more Asian it becomes. To put it another, the only population that is disproportionately filling seats being vacated by old people dying off is Asians
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[Cartoonist]

41. I don't know why you keep missing the point

If humanity survives until the year 4000, I am sure there will be someone, somewhere who has a Beatles music device and/or a Beethoven player. That's not the point. I guess I need to have you talk to Pat. He's concerned that as the population changes, so does its culture. There is no argument about that. Pat doesn't like that and wants to stop it. He is not going to succeed. Neither will Cruz, Perry, or anyone else.

[muntrv]

22. We know, Pat! Colored people are destroying Amurka!

[freshwest]

32. Baldwin ended his debate with Buckley in 1965 with these words:

It is a terrible thing for an entire people to surrender to the notion that one-ninth of its population is beneath them. Until the moment comes when we, the Americans, are able to accept the fact that my ancestors are both black and white, that on that continent we are trying to forge a new identity, that we need each other, that I am not a ward of America, I am not an object of missionary charity, I am one of the people who built the country—until this moment comes there is scarcely any hope for the American dream. If the people are denied participation in it, by their very presence they will wreck it. And if that happens it is a very grave moment for the West.

How many like Pat are going to have to learn the hard way?

Many whites are bitter about what they consider unjust losses financially. What did they expect?

Pat has said many times that he fears for western civilization. Even the royal family of the UK has said those days are past.

If Pat was truly concerned about saving what good has been, they better heed Baldwin's words there.

It's the truth. And it has a power of its own, that cannot be stopped.

[PatrynXX]

24. so new poll says americans think we are less safe than before 9/11

X_X well sure against right wing Gun Nuts hell yeah. rather crazy people they are. do far more terrorizing than any muslim to date

[El Shaman]

25. Patty boy

go visit Syria, I will pay your fare (you only need one way!!) Go for it 'white' boy!!

[blkmusclmachine]

29. And the GOP wonders why everybody sees it as being the Party of Lily Whites.

[freshwest]

31. OMGawd, I've been hating on Phyllis Schlafly for half a century and she's still there.

[olddad56]

34. Pat Buchanan is a 'Greater Threat' than ISIS

[Jefferson23]

40. He has always been a racist, that has been his message for years and years. Disgusting how

he is still welcomed on prime time news channels too.

[Tom Ripley]

42. NINA