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denem

(11,045 posts)
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 08:05 AM Sep 2014

Syria Supports 'Any International Effort' in Fight Against Jihadists Following Isis Strikes

Source: Yahoo News (UK)

Syria has said that it supports and is ready to cooperate with "any international effort" against jihadist groups following the start of US-led airstrikes against Isis (now known as the Islamic State) and The Khorasan group in the country.

Syria "backs any international effort that contributes to the fight against terrorists, be it against... Isis, the al-Nusra Front or anyone else," the foreign ministry announced in a televised statement.

Despite the Syrian foreign ministry being informed by its UN envoy about the strikes against the Islamic State, the approval of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad was not sought by the United States.

Read more: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/syria-supports-international-effort-fight-against-jihadists-following-092610081.html#2TZLZgM



Russia Condemns U.S. Airstrikes on ISIS and al-Qaeda; Assad Approves
http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/09/russia-condemns-us-airstrikes-on-isis-and-al-qaeda-assad-approves/380634/
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Syria Supports 'Any International Effort' in Fight Against Jihadists Following Isis Strikes (Original Post) denem Sep 2014 OP
And I'm sure Mr. Assad Turbineguy Sep 2014 #1
Assad can inform one and all denem Sep 2014 #3
Now it'll get really interesting. So Assad is now part of our coalition. Perfect. marble falls Sep 2014 #2
'The Coalition of the Killing' denem Sep 2014 #4
One thing I don't want to read is about civilian casualties denem Sep 2014 #5
Except for when the 'international community' tries to send them AID WORKERS... Amonester Sep 2014 #11
Three Westerners beheaded on video brings denem Sep 2014 #18
You seem to be obsessed only on the U.S. military, while other "actors" IN the region Amonester Sep 2014 #20
Sorry, let me make myself clear. denem Sep 2014 #21
Ok, sorry for asking. Amonester Sep 2014 #22
There were 400K protesting action on Climate Change in NYC. denem Sep 2014 #24
You seem to be obsessed with the US being ... GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #32
Assad is no longer a legit leader, no one asked for his approval or offered him 'help' Sunlei Sep 2014 #6
Despite the Western narrative, Assad has a lot of support in Syria. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #25
He's living on a warship guarded by the Russians. Putins his best friend & supporter. Sunlei Sep 2014 #26
"Assad is living on a warship guarded by the Russians" is propaganda. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #27
He moved a large group to Geneva. Long as there is money, he will be Putins BF. Sunlei Sep 2014 #29
Remove your ideological blinders. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #30
Assad will only remain Russias best friend, as long as Assad controls Syrias spending money. Sunlei Sep 2014 #31
How come America loves them the Egypt and Saudi dictator but not the Syrian one? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #7
Did you miss the 2011 reports about future relations or not /w Assad gov? Sunlei Sep 2014 #8
Got a link? GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #10
Demands to search by others is dull, indicting distress at a new thought disturbing the mindset. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #13
what search term did you use? here try "Obama quotes on Assad" in google search. Sunlei Sep 2014 #15
Yes, we are the boss State. All should kneel before us ballyhoo Sep 2014 #9
Could not bomb Syria last year as they agreed to take out all chemical weapons, so the CIA Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #16
Doesn't seem to be much left. And how can a starving, ballyhoo Sep 2014 #17
I have no idea why they hate him Reter Sep 2014 #12
Because the mass media has drummed it into the compliant American zombie masses mushy minds. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #14
"... in a nation where the mukhabarat (secret police informants/intelligence agents) have long pampango Sep 2014 #19
Oh, those dictators are all right with us. But why them exactly? Well... GOLGO 13 Sep 2014 #23
Because those dictators are our allies. Of course. Assad was not our ally. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #28
The "Great Satan" falls for it again! USA goes it alone into religious conflict. dmosh42 Sep 2014 #33

Turbineguy

(37,338 posts)
1. And I'm sure Mr. Assad
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 08:36 AM
Sep 2014

will supply on the ground intelligence to insure that the bombs go to all the right places. Especially his enemies.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
5. One thing I don't want to read is about civilian casualties
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 08:53 AM
Sep 2014

attributed to US air strikes. More than fifty people are reported to have died. Kay. The 'international community' doesn't give a shit about Syrian civilians.

Death Toll in Syria Estimated at 191,000

GENEVA — The number of dead in Syria’s civil war more than doubled in the past year to at least 191,000, the United Nations human rights office said Friday. The agency’s chief, Navi Pillay, bluntly criticized Western nations, saying their inaction in the face of the slaughter had “empowered and emboldened” the killers.

In its third report on Syria commissioned by the United Nations, the Human Rights Data Analysis Group identified 191,369 deaths from the start of the conflict in March 2011 to April 2014, more than double the 92,901 deaths cited in the group’s last report, which covered the first two years of the conflict.

“Tragically, it is probably an underestimate of the real total number of people killed during the first three years of this murderous conflict,” Ms. Pillay said in a statement that accompanied the report, which observed that many killings in Syria were undocumented.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/world/middleeast/un-raises-estimate-of-dead-in-syrian-conflict-to-191000.html

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
11. Except for when the 'international community' tries to send them AID WORKERS...
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:48 AM
Sep 2014

who get brutally beheaded by a few savages of the local mafia there.

It's a civil war. FYI, people usually die in civil wars.

When the religious fanatics there will stop beheading "non-believers" for anything they deem "fit" and just for fun, perhaps humanitarian workers will be able to go there and HELP victims?

Thanks for your support (of HELP workers, and to a lesser degree, to free-press journalists...)

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
18. Three Westerners beheaded on video brings
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:09 AM
Sep 2014

worldwide condemnation; 1000 a-rabs slaughtered a week, that is just a statistic.

Yes you are right, this is a civil war. People, a LOT of people die in a civil war. My point is no one, No One with any self respect, should put up Syrian civilian casualties in order to oppose today's air strikes targeting unapolgetic genocidal killers.

There are a lot of reasons to reject deploying the U.S. military in Syria. Civilian casualties is not one of them.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
20. You seem to be obsessed only on the U.S. military, while other "actors" IN the region
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:28 AM
Sep 2014

OF the region are also (finally, IMHO) flying their bombings towards the local mafia there gone rogue.

Why only target your critics toward the U.S.? Doesn't that make your agenda kind of transparent?

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
21. Sorry, let me make myself clear.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:39 AM
Sep 2014

After the disasters of the war in Afghanistan, and Iraq (2003 ...), there are many people in the States and elsewhere, firmly opposed to US military force in any circumstances. What I am saying is, if someone is a critic of US using military force today in Syria, make your argument, but do not dare to cite civilian casualitiesthe current air strikes in Syria by the US, then argue away but do not raise civilian casualties. That's all.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
22. Ok, sorry for asking.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:49 AM
Sep 2014

OTOH, climate change(s) may lead to more than seven billion civilian deaths one of these days, but since it's not a war, climate-change deniers don't seem to care either...

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
24. There were 400K protesting action on Climate Change in NYC.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 12:03 PM
Sep 2014

And how many protested the slaughter in Syria. Lets just say it was the same number protesting the slaughter in Cambodia and Rwanda, and the war in the Congo. And why so? Oh yes - these people were not white. Climate Change threatens white lives. QED.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
6. Assad is no longer a legit leader, no one asked for his approval or offered him 'help'
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 08:55 AM
Sep 2014

Very, disgruntled IS ground fighters head home to your part of Syria, Assad. Have you already run away to your mansions in Geneva, Swiss.?

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
25. Despite the Western narrative, Assad has a lot of support in Syria.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:10 PM
Sep 2014

And probably even more now, now that people have had a chance to see the alternatives.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
26. He's living on a warship guarded by the Russians. Putins his best friend & supporter.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:12 PM
Sep 2014

Assad is one of his biggest customers.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
27. "Assad is living on a warship guarded by the Russians" is propaganda.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:40 PM
Sep 2014

First off, this claim is from a year and a half ago.

Secondly:

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/14/media-reports-that-assad-lives-on-russian-warship-likely-false

Reports that the Syrian president has been living on a navy ship off the coast of his wartorn country under Russian security are likely false, experts say.

Saudi Arabian news service al-Watan issued unconfirmed reports that family and senior advisors of Bashar al-Assad have joined the president on board a warship in the Mediterranean, secured by Russian operatives. Assad uses a helicopters to travel to Syria, reports al-Watan. This story has been re-reported by Israel's Y Net News, Business Insider, and UPI, all citing the same unconfirmed source.

Expert observers of Russian foreign policy and the behavior of the Syrian president, including the U.S. State Department, say this is likely untrue.

"There's no reason for [Assad] to be on a warship in the Mediterranean," says Syria specialist Michael Weiss, a columnist with Middle East news website NOW Lebanon. "He has to be in Damascus, because that's where he's running the whole war machine."

Al-Watan is so far the only news service to report on the rumors independently. Private intelligence company Stratfor points out Riyadh has a vested interest in making it appear Assad—a vocal critic of the Saudis as a U.S. ally—does not feel safe in his home country.

"If things had come to that point then he would have lost Damascus," says Kamran Bokhari, Stratfor's vice president of Middle Eastern affairs, adding that the Saudi government is working "feverishly" to topple Assad and his Iranian allies.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
29. He moved a large group to Geneva. Long as there is money, he will be Putins BF.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 02:05 PM
Sep 2014

I doubt very much he 'Leads' from Damascus or Syria today.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
30. Remove your ideological blinders.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 02:43 PM
Sep 2014

And cut the childish crap. "Putin's BF." Really?

Syria and Russia are long-standing allies. You can say that without being all junior high school about it.

And Assad is in Damascus today meeting with the Iranian foreign minister.

http://www.sana.sy/en/?p=13927

President al-Assad to Iraqi envoy: Syria proceeds resolutely in its war against terrorism
23/09/2014

Damascus, SANA – President Bashar al-Assad on Tuesday met Faleh Fayyad, the Iraqi National Security Advisor and the envoy of Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi.

Talks during the meeting tackled counterterrorism efforts, with the Iraqi envoy briefing President al-Assad on the latest steps taken in this regard, as well as discussing upcoming steps and possible measures to ensure the success of these efforts and eliminate terrorists organizations in all their forms.

President al-Assad affirmed to Fayyad that Russia is proceeding resolutely in its war against all forms of takfiri terrorism which it has been waging for years, asserting that Syria supports any international counterterrorism effort.

The President stressed that the success of such efforts isn’t just linked to military action which is important, as it’s also linked to states committing themselves to relevant international resolutions and what they entail in terms of stopping all forms of support for terrorist organizations.


The two sides affirmed the need to continue cooperation and coordination between the two countries’ leadership in combating terrorism, particularly since this cooperation produced positive results for the people of Syria, Iraq, and the region.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
7. How come America loves them the Egypt and Saudi dictator but not the Syrian one?
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:10 AM
Sep 2014

And of course America needs no ones approval to bomb any nation they choose, or will just lie about it.

Speaking from up high on a moral perch that long ago was broken.

"Moderate" terrorists are now Americas allies against the extreme terrorists, so now America wants to assign levels?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. Did you miss the 2011 reports about future relations or not /w Assad gov?
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:31 AM
Sep 2014

I suggest you use search.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
15. what search term did you use? here try "Obama quotes on Assad" in google search.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:55 AM
Sep 2014

That will give you pretty much what Obama said back then about Assad Gov. and our policies, policies of international community & many of the News stories from 3 years ago. You can also refine your google search, I don't understand how your search got a "blank".


https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=obama+quotes+on+assad

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
9. Yes, we are the boss State. All should kneel before us
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:41 AM
Sep 2014

as we kill the rest, including our on people at home starving on street corners. The highest level terrorist is us.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
16. Could not bomb Syria last year as they agreed to take out all chemical weapons, so the CIA
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:58 AM
Sep 2014

created and funded, via Saudi and Qatar, ISIS, before just a small and criminal gang kicked out of AQ for being too extreme.

Now the CIA left Obama and America no choice, bombs away against the vicious thugs threatening, cough, the "homeland", they may have helped with technical production of the beheadings that the mass media gave free advertising for, too...crazy, huh?

But then again, how evil can a divided powers America really be? I should just go with the propaganda flow, really.

Assad protects Christians even as ALL the terrorists in Syria wants to kill or convert them...never mentioned...

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
17. Doesn't seem to be much left. And how can a starving,
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:04 AM
Sep 2014

uneducated people understand anything let alone treachery by an acronym.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
14. Because the mass media has drummed it into the compliant American zombie masses mushy minds.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:53 AM
Sep 2014

Ask folks where Syria is on a map....hilarity ensues.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
19. "... in a nation where the mukhabarat (secret police informants/intelligence agents) have long
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:13 AM
Sep 2014

infiltrated all segments of society and institutions, a general aura of fear, suspicion, and paranoia persisted ...

During the same year Bashar Al-Assad took power, ninety-nine Syrian intellectuals, writers, and critics crafted and signed the “Statement of 99” calling for an end to emergency rule/martial law that had been in place since 1963, for the state to pardon political dissidents detained, imprisoned, deported, or exiled by his father’s regime, formal recognition and implementation of freedom of assembly, press, and expression, as well as an end to the surveillance of its citizens by the secret police and security forces. ... The following year, in 2001, one thousand academics, critics, and activists launched the “Statement of 1,000” which expanded on the previous statement’s tenets and called for a multi-party democracy to supplant the one-party Baa’thist state. This was met with another, albeit harsher, government crackdown.

... when anti-regime protests began in early 2011. While initially limited to small demonstrations calling on the lifting of the Emergency Laws and better economic policies, the government was able to contain them with relative ease. When they grew as they did in Dera’a in March of that year, the government’s crackdowns intensified and greater numbers of Syrians became disillusioned by the regime’s insincerity in addressing and implementing political, social, and economic reforms. The zero-tolerance policies of the Assad regime only sought to radicalize some already, economically and politically disenfranchised segments of the Syrian population, some of which had been subdued by his father in previous years and had since been boiling with discontent.

Clearly, the regime was desperate to quell unfavorable opinions about the regime in any and all forms and was willing to undermine civil society for ‘national security’ concerns through their unreasonable policies- policies which only increasingly infuriated Syrians. A 2006 report by the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) placed Syria among the top-ten most censored countries in the world, as did a 2006 report published by Reporters without Borders who claimed that it was common for Syrian security forces to arrest, interrogate, or try individuals for attempting to either view, download, or write on forbidden topics or issues (e.g. uploading or sharing images of police brutality or criticizing a regime official or regime policy).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025573628

Perhaps you and I would have hated to live under the repression of the Assad father/son hereditary dictatorship.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
23. Oh, those dictators are all right with us. But why them exactly? Well...
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:12 AM
Sep 2014

Oil naturally. SA is also where Mecca is, so you know we ain't ever gonna go rolling in there to do anything even remotely angry. Also our good "friends" the House of Saud, buys a metric shit-ton of grade A military hardware from only Americas finest & whitest corprations.

And that billion we "give" to the Egyptian military every year? Yeah, we get that returned on the back end when they buy our Abrams tanks, F-15 fighter planes, and happy fun time weapons systems and included party favors. Fireworks are extra, of course.

Syria mostly buys their toys from Russia. So fuck Assad.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
28. Because those dictators are our allies. Of course. Assad was not our ally.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:49 PM
Sep 2014

But now, maybe he is. And isn't.

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