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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:06 PM Oct 2014

Cave containing early human DNA dubbed historic

Source: AP

GRANTS PASS, Ore. (AP) — A cave in Oregon's high desert where archaeologists have found the earliest DNA evidence of human habitation in North America has been added to the National Register of Historic Places.

The Paisley Five Mile Point Caves are part of a lava formation outside the community of Paisley in south-central Oregon.

University of Oregon archaeologist Dennis Jenkins led excavations that turned up fossilized human feces — known as coprolites — that were radiocarbon dated to 14,300 years ago.

That is 1,000 years before the oldest stone points of the Clovis culture, which for much of the 20th century was believed to represent the first people in North America.

Jenkins says the site has provided significant new information about the timing and spread of the first settlers in the Americas.

Read more: http://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2014/10/03/cave-containing-earliest-human-dna-dubbed-historic/16663477/

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Cave containing early human DNA dubbed historic (Original Post) Turborama Oct 2014 OP
All of Scotland can be proud that some old geezer from Paisley had a shite in the woods long, long pkdu Oct 2014 #1
pkdu 3auld6phart Oct 2014 #4
The Heinz History Center in Pittsburgh has a location called Meadowcroft. toby jo Oct 2014 #2
fossized turd hibbing Oct 2014 #3
Cool! marym625 Oct 2014 #5
Maybe it wasn't human shit marym625 Oct 2014 #6
Must have used that landbridge much longer than we thought. jwirr Oct 2014 #7
"Holy Shit".... Historic NY Oct 2014 #8
DUzy. nt littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #9
I second that. SoapBox Oct 2014 #10
Some examples of human coprolites Kaleva Oct 2014 #11
those seem more Giant Cave Bear sized...... BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2014 #12
Too big and plant filled for human. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #13
What is Karl Rove's brain davidpdx Oct 2014 #16
If that's from humans, they blew out their sphincters. CANDO Oct 2014 #20
It's proof that Fred Flinstone was a big asshole. Kaleva Oct 2014 #22
That right there is some funny S***! CANDO Oct 2014 #23
"Fossilized turd"?? undiegrinder Oct 2014 #14
Good news...Also in Fla. Vero Beach Man site is being studied again Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #15
That blows me away. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #18
Great story, would love to see those caves someday as have done some caving in the past. davidpdx Oct 2014 #17
Thank you, Turborama. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #19
DNA studies are very cool!should core/date and study perma-ice from our glaciers before they're gone Sunlei Oct 2014 #21
AP doesn't know their sh*t Crash2Parties Oct 2014 #24
"A cave in Oregon's high desert... geologic Oct 2014 #25
Fascinating shit. Feral Child Oct 2014 #26
Wow, talk about constipation… Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #27
They found Dubya's brain! roamer65 Oct 2014 #28

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
1. All of Scotland can be proud that some old geezer from Paisley had a shite in the woods long, long
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:16 PM
Oct 2014

ago .

/Sarc off

3auld6phart

(1,047 posts)
4. pkdu
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:38 PM
Oct 2014

LOL like it. The posting of the find in Oregon is very interesting.We seem to have gone back further in time in NA by a couple thousand years.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
2. The Heinz History Center in Pittsburgh has a location called Meadowcroft.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:26 PM
Oct 2014

It goes back to 16,000 years ago. Don't know if it is radiocarbon dated, but it is part of the Smithsonian. http://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/secondary.aspx?id=84

marym625

(17,997 posts)
6. Maybe it wasn't human shit
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:10 AM
Oct 2014

But something that shit the human it ate
Kidding. Don't need to be told how that's scientifically wrong

 

CANDO

(2,068 posts)
20. If that's from humans, they blew out their sphincters.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 09:59 AM
Oct 2014

Ouch! But I'm guessing they are dino-dung.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
15. Good news...Also in Fla. Vero Beach Man site is being studied again
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 03:18 AM
Oct 2014

September 20, 2014|By Ken Kaye, Sun Sentinel
About 14,000 years ago, modern humans roamed to South Florida and lived side by side with mammoths, mastodons and saber-tooth tigers.

That, at least, is what Florida Atlantic University scientists hope to prove by analyzing ancient DNA found at an archaeological dig in Vero Beach.

If they can confirm the age of some very brittle bones, it will fill a major gap in human history, said Greg O'Corry-Crowe, an FAU associate research professor. "It would imply that humans were on this continent much longer than originally thought," he said.



Officially called the Old Vero Man site, the dig is considered one of the most important archaeological finds in North America. A large number of animal and human bones were discovered there, providing a rare glimpse of the Florida landscape at the end of the last Ice Age.

The site was originally discovered in 1915 when a farming company dredging a relief canal spotted part of a human skull and 44 other bones from up to five individuals, male and female.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2014-09-20/news/fl-fau-ice-age-20140919_1_human-bones-ancient-dna-florida-atlantic-university

Mammoth engraving from Florida

Researchers from the Smithsonian Institution and the University of Florida have announced the discovery of a bone fragment, approximately 13 000 years old, at Vero, Florida with an incised image of a mammoth or mastodon. This engraving is the oldest known example of Ice Age art to depict a proboscidean (the order of animals with trunks) in the Americas. The bone was discovered in Vero Beach, Florida by James Kennedy, an avocational fossil hunter, who collected the bone and later while cleaning the bone, discovered the engraving. Recognising its potential importance, Kennedy contacted scientists at the University of Florida and the Smithsonian's Museum Conservation Institute and National Museum of Natural History.

Much more and other articles, news clippings etc. at link


http://donsmaps.com/vero.html


davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
17. Great story, would love to see those caves someday as have done some caving in the past.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 05:03 AM
Oct 2014

THAT place is one of my least favorite places in the world though. Yucko!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
21. DNA studies are very cool!should core/date and study perma-ice from our glaciers before they're gone
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:14 PM
Oct 2014

There's all kinds of DNA locked in that ice.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
26. Fascinating shit.
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 12:12 PM
Oct 2014

I really like these kinds of articles. DU is my main news/current event sites.

Thanks for the post, Turborama!

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