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BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 04:37 PM Oct 2014

U.S. troops found nearly 5,000 abandoned chemical weapons in Iraq from 2004 to 2011: report

Source: The New York Times

U.S. troops found nearly 5,000 abandoned chemical weapons in Iraq from 2004 to 2011: report

By Dylan Stableford
6 hours ago
Yahoo News

American troops found nearly 5,000 abandoned chemical weapons in Iraq from 2004 to 2011, but their discoveries were kept secret by the U.S. government, the New York Times reports.

According to the 10,000-word, eight-part interactive report ("The Secret Casualties of Iraq's Abandoned Chemical Weapons&quot by C.J. Chivers published on the paper's website late Tuesday, at least 17 American service members and seven Iraqi police officers were exposed to nerve or mustard agents in Iraq after 2003.

On at least six occasions, American troops and American-trained Iraqi troops were wounded by the abandoned munitions, but news of the encounters was neither shared publicly nor widely circulated among the troops, the victims told the Times. Others said they were told to be vague or deceptive about what they found.

"'Nothing of significance’ is what I was ordered to say,” Jarrod Lampier, a retired Army major, said of the 2006 discovery of 2,400 nerve-agent rockets at a former Republican Guard compound, the largest chemical weapons discovery of the war.






Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/chemical-weapons-found-in-iraq-nyt-report-135347507.html

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U.S. troops found nearly 5,000 abandoned chemical weapons in Iraq from 2004 to 2011: report (Original Post) BlueStater Oct 2014 OP
Didn't this come out several years ago? arcane1 Oct 2014 #1
You're correct. ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #2
The comments in the article are infuriating. BlueStater Oct 2014 #3
I don't understand this reasoning OnlinePoker Oct 2014 #8
Here's the reason they didn't say anything: ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #10
They were designed and made in the US and Europe muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #12
So that explains why Bush couldn't find them under his desk. But doesn't explain why A Simple Game Oct 2014 #4
Or at least a Mission Accomplished carrier media event. ffr Oct 2014 #7
"all of this was from the pre-1991 era" - not active WMD programs KeepItReal Oct 2014 #5
Had we sold it to them? nt valerief Oct 2014 #6
Good thing we started a war that killed and wounded Adrahil Oct 2014 #9
The weapons have a half life and aged out of being significant on point Oct 2014 #11
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. Didn't this come out several years ago?
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 04:39 PM
Oct 2014

I remember my then-republican cousin posting something on Facebook about a bunch of old, rusted shells, and it was "proof that Bush was right all along!!!1" even though it wasn't.

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
2. You're correct.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 04:42 PM
Oct 2014

What was found didn't fit with Bush's narrative, however, a point that was lost on the GOP-ers.

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
8. I don't understand this reasoning
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 05:50 PM
Oct 2014

By 2006, everybody was asking "Where are the WMDs?". You would think a discovery of this magnitude would be something Bush, Cheney, and their cronies would be trumpeting from the rooftops as justification for the invasion.

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
10. Here's the reason they didn't say anything:
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:02 PM
Oct 2014

All the WMD's that were found were ones we already knew existed, because Saddam had placed them in permanent storage as part of the agreement ending Desert Storm. Bush, Cheney, et al, needed to find an active WMD program, because that was their rationale for invading Iraq, and what they found didn't fit that narrative.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
12. They were designed and made in the US and Europe
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 04:10 AM
Oct 2014
Participants in the chemical weapons discoveries said the United States suppressed knowledge of finds for multiple reasons, including that the government bristled at further acknowledgment it had been wrong. "They needed something to say that after Sept. 11 Saddam used chemical rounds," Mr. Lampier said. "And all of this was from the pre-1991 era." Others pointed to another embarrassment. In five of six incidents in which troops were wounded by chemical agents, the munitions appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Old_Poison_In_New_Bottles

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
4. So that explains why Bush couldn't find them under his desk. But doesn't explain why
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 04:48 PM
Oct 2014

he publicly stated that none were found. I think if there was anything to this story they would have had a parade down 5th avenue for them.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
7. Or at least a Mission Accomplished carrier media event.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 05:24 PM
Oct 2014


I'm with you. Faux would have been trumpeting W's mastery of the subject.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
9. Good thing we started a war that killed and wounded
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 06:28 PM
Oct 2014

Hundreds of thousands! Someone might have gotten hurt by those things, that weren't actively maintained!

on point

(2,506 posts)
11. The weapons have a half life and aged out of being significant
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 03:36 AM
Oct 2014

Otherwise they would be dead. I suspect this is another NYT /CIA plant story

See Scott Ritter for weapons search and chem aging

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