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underpants

(182,826 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:40 AM Nov 2014

ISIS Wave of Might Is Turning Into Ripple

Source: NY Times

Today, roughly a third of Iraq is dotted by active battle fronts, with intense fighting and occasional Islamic State victories. But analysts also say the days of easy and rapid gains for the jihadists may be coming to a close in Iraq, as the group’s momentum appears to be stalling.

The international airstrike campaign against the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, has clearly played a role in slowing the Sunni Muslim group’s advance. But analysts say other factors are having a major effect, including unfavorable sectarian and political demographics, pushback from overrun communities, damage to the group’s financial base in Syria and slight improvements by ground forces in Iraq.

“The airstrikes from the coalition have been very helpful, and now the ISIS fighters are confused and don’t know where to go,” said Maj. Gen. Hamad Namis al-Jibouri, the police chief of Salahuddin Province in Iraq, where a combination of government security forces and Shiite militias have been fighting the jihadists near the town of Baiji. “They have also raised the spirits of the groups on the ground that are fighting ISIS.”

Hisham Alhashimi, an Iraqi researcher and an expert on the Islamic State, said those changes had broken up the group’s territory, making it harder for it to move its forces and for its couriers to relay messages among the leadership and the field commanders.

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ISIS Wave of Might Is Turning Into Ripple (Original Post) underpants Nov 2014 OP
or maybe their funding is drying up now that our elections are over belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #1
Bingo! Frustratedlady Nov 2014 #5
You got it! ballyhoo Nov 2014 #7
Ya think, just maybe... mountain grammy Nov 2014 #14
No. The President has handled it well as he always does and it's IS-IL. The Wielding Truth Nov 2014 #24
oh thank you sooooo much for correcting my ISIS faux pas that correction makes things so much belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #28
The Commander in Chief uses IS-IL. How is it that the media doesn't respect his usage? I do. The Wielding Truth Nov 2014 #41
Warmongering nonsense. Maedhros Nov 2014 #29
hey there are even more posts posted today using isis instead of is-il- better go get em belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #39
uh-oh here's another one for you to correct belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #40
great news, but a bummer for the hawks Enrique Nov 2014 #2
NYT wouldn't report this in the weeks BEFORE the election. blm Nov 2014 #3
Indeed underpants Nov 2014 #4
The media's FEARBOLA CAMPAIGN 2014 SkyDaddy7 Nov 2014 #6
Racist corporate media wants people to blame Obama for Bush's mess. blm Nov 2014 #12
Makes me mad that the media reported on everyone who was being evaluated fo Ebola LeftInTX Nov 2014 #20
Good point flamingdem Nov 2014 #26
ISIS won't even be a blip on the radar by the time the next Congress bullwinkle428 Nov 2014 #8
GOP will claim credit - just like they did for the economic turnaround in the 90s. blm Nov 2014 #10
Plus I'm sure they have lost christx30 Nov 2014 #9
Does this mean that ISIS won't be invading the US anyday now? WHEW...what a relief KinMd Nov 2014 #11
What has invaded the US is far more dangerous than ISIS... ballyhoo Nov 2014 #13
Don't be so sure. There's always 2016. Rozlee Nov 2014 #27
Wow, good thing Republicans took the Senate mountain grammy Nov 2014 #15
They must fear Lindsey Graham underpants Nov 2014 #22
Yes, that's it, I'm sure! mountain grammy Nov 2014 #23
Who doesn't? FSogol Nov 2014 #31
Well .... You are probably just a'shakin' at the knees ... underpants Nov 2014 #32
Kill all the remaining ISIS fighters and their sympathizers n/t cosmicone Nov 2014 #16
And they are targeting teachers (that includes my brother). MelissaB Nov 2014 #17
The media will credit ISIS's defeat to Republicans taking the Senate Dopers_Greed Nov 2014 #18
This is called "whistling in the graveyard." candelista Nov 2014 #19
They'll be back in October 2016 LeftInTX Nov 2014 #21
C'mon, people, everything isn't about the mid-terms. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #25
Gee, right after the election, who'd have thunk it??? Odin2005 Nov 2014 #30
The fact is a jihadi army is a lousy fighting force. Central Scruitinizer Nov 2014 #33
Then why are we still at war? n/t jtuck004 Nov 2014 #34
The take open space and friendly Sunni areas underpants Nov 2014 #36
And for this they have so much trouble we are having to send missiles, drones, advisors, jtuck004 Nov 2014 #38
Who has been funding them? Kingofalldems Nov 2014 #35
The Saudi royals underpants Nov 2014 #37

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
5. Bingo!
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:46 AM
Nov 2014

Along with encouragement from some Sunday Nooz loudmouths and one guy, in particular, who has been mighty quiet.

Same with ebola

 

belzabubba333

(1,237 posts)
28. oh thank you sooooo much for correcting my ISIS faux pas that correction makes things so much
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:25 PM
Nov 2014

more clearer, otherwise nobody would know what im talking about well excpt for you. you somehow managed to super-sleuth the meaning. good for you ! of course with everyone using isis (excpt for you) i cant see why you chose to correct only mine but oh well.....

blm

(113,064 posts)
3. NYT wouldn't report this in the weeks BEFORE the election.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:42 AM
Nov 2014

And broadcast media had no interest in it, either. Even though it was apparent to those paying attention, that Obama, Kerry and Hagel's strategy on Iraq and building a coalition of allies and fighters that included Iran, has been......EFFECTIVE.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
6. The media's FEARBOLA CAMPAIGN 2014
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:52 AM
Nov 2014

Is the reason the polls swung so hard in the republicans favor the last few months prior to the election...Everyone freaked out for no reason, even folks here on DU fell victim to the media's "reporting" that President Obama was losing control overseas "ISIS" & here at home "Ebola".

It really made me sick watching it all take place...You can bet your ass as the Ebola scare wanes & ISIS ability is deteriorated the media will NOT credit the Obama administration they will simply move on to something else FAKE to criticize Obama for.

I don't want to bring race into this but WTF else is going on that the media refuses to credit Obama with any of the vast positive changes this country has seen in the past 5yrs? This country was coming apart in 2008 & now most everything is moving in right direction yet the media acts like it is still 2008???????

blm

(113,064 posts)
12. Racist corporate media wants people to blame Obama for Bush's mess.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:10 AM
Nov 2014

They have stripped all good journalists of any power or platform.

LeftInTX

(25,367 posts)
20. Makes me mad that the media reported on everyone who was being evaluated fo Ebola
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 01:16 PM
Nov 2014

Then yesterday the AP changed their policy.

It does nobody any good except family and friends to know when someone is being evaluated for Ebola. It created panic in the Bronx when a kid became sick with something else.

Gosh every time someone from West Africa vomited it made national news!!

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
8. ISIS won't even be a blip on the radar by the time the next Congress
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:09 AM
Nov 2014

is seated in January. That sure worked out very nicely for Boner, McConnell and company!

blm

(113,064 posts)
10. GOP will claim credit - just like they did for the economic turnaround in the 90s.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:37 AM
Nov 2014

Even though every one of them voted AGAINST the legislation and policies that led to the nation's surplus budget by the time Bush sat his lousy carcass in the Oval Office.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
9. Plus I'm sure they have lost
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:18 AM
Nov 2014

a lot of personnel that have come here to jump over the U.S./Mexican border with their prayer rugs and korans, trying to spread Ebola.

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
15. Wow, good thing Republicans took the Senate
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:51 AM
Nov 2014

so we're all safer now. I have Cory Gardner to protect me from all the terrors on earth....

underpants

(182,826 posts)
32. Well .... You are probably just a'shakin' at the knees ...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 05:05 PM
Nov 2014

And I do declare (fans himself) who have just GOT to be feelin' the heat. That's right, I have come to this here very spot for two a reasons. To chew gum and to kick some a that there butt...and to my hORRible surprise it appears that I am fresh out of gum.

They didn't even have any more down at the Piggly Wiggly

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
19. This is called "whistling in the graveyard."
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 01:01 PM
Nov 2014

You do it to make yourself feel better.

Notice their source: Maj. Gen. Hamad Namis al-Jibouri, the police chief of Salahuddin Province in Iraq.

Impeccable, no?

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
30. Gee, right after the election, who'd have thunk it???
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 04:53 PM
Nov 2014

The Kurds will wipe the floor with these ISIS bozos with some air support from us. The fear-mongering was purely for domestic consumption.

 
33. The fact is a jihadi army is a lousy fighting force.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:15 PM
Nov 2014

ISIS rolled like Patton wherever their pickups took them. As soon as they met terrain or a fight, their rolling pickups became a losing tactic.
Airstrikes even stopped that one go-to move.
Jihad is not so much about victory as much as sacrifice. We come here to die is the cry of jihad. Rudderless groups like ISIS will not get very far.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
36. The take open space and friendly Sunni areas
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:07 PM
Nov 2014

They execute people for recruitment purposes.

They do have 1,000-2,000 Chechneyens ( who are bad dudes) but other than that they don't stand up to the Kurds

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
38. And for this they have so much trouble we are having to send missiles, drones, advisors,
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:56 PM
Nov 2014

and get help from other nations to do the same.

And ISIS is walking the streets of Mosul, executing Kurds at will. Sounds like they might be standing up here and there.

Just fyi: The mujaheddin, long b4 ISIS learned to be vicious capitalists, fought the Russians to a draw, from horseback and in caves, with some help from US weapons. 'Course, then we turned our backs on them and a lot of other things went on. But this current crop is smart, capable, and funded.

But that's such a silly argument. We are fighting an idea. As long as people with limited vision think they can solve it with guns, this will continue.

However, most people who tell me anything about this don't really have a clue, have no real experience on the ground there or anywhere near and are just mouthing American propaganda, so I really don't engage in the limited conversations we might have.

Btw - WE execute people when they won't fight. Ask any veteran that has been in combat. We execute a LOT of civilians too, nowadays with bombs, because people started objecting to having to shoot all those civilians in Vietnam - the smoke gets in your eyes. The bombs kill 'em just as dead, though. There are whole websites dedicated to the baby parts we tough people have left scattered all over those countries. With GREAT excuses.

So people riding by on their white horse mouthing-breathing the whole "we are tougher, we are holier than thou" lines leaves me worse than cold.

It is so much more complex than that, and that garbage does nothing but continue the division.





underpants

(182,826 posts)
37. The Saudi royals
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:13 PM
Nov 2014

They have been finding the weird cousin/ Pentacostal Muslims before they fell into oil money (think the Clampetts). The Wahabbists do have an extensive school system but they were seen as a deadend road until a country opened up for them to take. That was predicted in the anti-war movement courtesy of the CIA Worldbook.

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