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alp227

(32,032 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:28 PM Nov 2014

University of California weighs tuition hike plan

Source: AP

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Tuition at the University of California's 10 campuses would increase by as much as 5 percent in each of the next five years under a plan UC President Janet Napolitano unveiled Thursday.

The proposal follows three years in which tuition rates have remained frozen. It would increase the average annual cost of a UC education for California residents pursuing undergraduate degrees and graduate degrees in academic as opposed to professional disciplines from $12,192 to up to $12,804 next fall and $15,564 in fall 2019, according to a copy of the plan provided to The Associated Press.

Napolitano said the five-year framework fulfills a goal she set when she assumed the president's office last year of making "modest" tuition hikes a predictable part of the university's budget so families and campuses can know what to expect and plan accordingly.

"We are being honest, being honest with Californians in terms of cost and also ensuring that we are continuing to maintain the University of California in terms of academic excellence, in terms of its moment, in terms of being really an engine of mobility," she said in an interview.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/87fc7fb3227f4e9c94db1d796408fee2/uc-consider-plan-hike-tuition-over-5-years

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University of California weighs tuition hike plan (Original Post) alp227 Nov 2014 OP
Going in the wrong direction as expected, eh Ms. Napolitano? Try cutting fees in half, to start. bemildred Nov 2014 #1
My alma mater keeps fucking over working families -- and their kids -- here in California. villager Nov 2014 #2
Yeah it is. It's all about the money now. nt bemildred Nov 2014 #3
I would like to see the dorms and amenities that are at this school yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #26
The closest UC to me, UC Davis, doesn't have anywhere near enough space for students. LeftyMom Nov 2014 #29
College is overrated. Elmergantry Nov 2014 #4
n/t blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #13
n/t tenderfoot Nov 2014 #19
Well, America has a badly needed intellectual hole. alp227 Nov 2014 #25
Well thats strange. Elmergantry Nov 2014 #32
Another thumbs ChazII Nov 2014 #28
This all started under Saint Ronnie when he was governor. mnhtnbb Nov 2014 #5
It's happened all over the country taught_me_patience Nov 2014 #9
Let's burdened our best and brightest people with more debt. Yavin4 Nov 2014 #6
Just what we need... deurbano Nov 2014 #7
Six and Seven figure staff salaries need support from students seveneyes Nov 2014 #8
"They want obedient workers" RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #10
They can set almost any fees they want. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2014 #11
That's probably true, however, Arugula Latte Nov 2014 #22
Bu Bye UCs.... Helen Borg Nov 2014 #12
That's outrageous. Does she think UC is bottomless Dept of Homeland Security? stuffmatters Nov 2014 #14
GREED blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #15
Take a tip from students in Quebec RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #16
Time was when Californians invested in their young people LuckyLib Nov 2014 #17
Great, just great! CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #18
Ut oh more protests on the way flamingdem Nov 2014 #20
Sorry, kids. You could have had affordable public education, but we had to bomb the shit out of Iraq Arugula Latte Nov 2014 #21
It never fuckin ends does it? workinclasszero Nov 2014 #23
Napolitano is getting $570,000 a year plus a $9950 a month house, QC Nov 2014 #24
Wow that's insane Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #27
that sucks, my son is a freshman at Cal-Berkeley olddad56 Nov 2014 #30
I hope they don't plan on protesting the tuition hike J_J_ Nov 2014 #31
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
2. My alma mater keeps fucking over working families -- and their kids -- here in California.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:31 PM
Nov 2014

It's quite embarrassing, actually...

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
26. I would like to see the dorms and amenities that are at this school
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:14 PM
Nov 2014

I saw a special where colleges are trying to make dorms into luxury apartments with pools, elegant furniture, granite countertops, washer dryers in the rooms. I was impressed but I know that stuff is not cheap. I am NOT saying that this is the case in California schools, but it is happening all over the country.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
29. The closest UC to me, UC Davis, doesn't have anywhere near enough space for students.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:45 AM
Nov 2014

So most students wind up having to share an apartment in a town without enough housing, paying bay area grade rent to live in a farm town in the central valley.

Which is another expense people most families can't manage.

The housing situation at CSU schools (the lower tier of four year state schools) is even worse.

 

Elmergantry

(884 posts)
4. College is overrated.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:39 PM
Nov 2014

We need more people in the trades. Too many think it is beneath them. Know of someone who moved from CA to to fracking business in the east. Seems they cant find any locals who can pass a drug test.

alp227

(32,032 posts)
25. Well, America has a badly needed intellectual hole.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:01 PM
Nov 2014

All sorts of SHIT churn out of Hollywood. People vote for right wing doofuses (remember Tuesday?) If America were more educated, real music would be topping the Billboard charts, and politicians would be more accountable. College can't be "overrated" in such an anti-intellectual nation like the USA.

 

Elmergantry

(884 posts)
32. Well thats strange.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:55 PM
Nov 2014

The number of people attending college from 1960 to 2013 increased from 45% to 65.9% So we should be "smarter" yes? you stated otherwise. Maybe college is the problem - educated beyond their intelligence.

Just saw the other day a video interviewing college students. Couldn't name who fought in the civil war, who won, and whom did we get our independence from.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
5. This all started under Saint Ronnie when he was governor.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:50 PM
Nov 2014

I know because I received both BS and MPH from UCLA in the 70's,
and his signature was on my degrees.

When I was an undergrad, tuition was $99/trimester at UCLA.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
9. It's happened all over the country
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 04:08 PM
Nov 2014

Baby boomers didn't want to pay the taxes necessary to fund college and keep tuition low.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
6. Let's burdened our best and brightest people with more debt.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 03:54 PM
Nov 2014

That's the way to go. That's how you build a better tomorrow.

Un-fucking believable.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
8. Six and Seven figure staff salaries need support from students
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 04:08 PM
Nov 2014

It's not as if they are in it just to educate our students.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
10. "They want obedient workers"
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 04:29 PM
Nov 2014
‘’Governments don’t want a population capable of critical thinking,they want obedient workers,people just smart enough to run the machines and just dumb enough to passively accept their situation." -- George Carlin


Raising tuition is a win-win for the powers-that-be. 1) It'll deprive most poor and middle-class students from obtaining a college education, thus providing a ready pool of candidates for low-paid jobs. And for those lower and middle class students who still believe in the myth of upward mobility and somehow still manage to get into college, they'll be so saddled with debt when they get out that they'll be reluctant to do anything to rock the boat.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
22. That's probably true, however,
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:58 PM
Nov 2014

I was just having a discussion with some friends (we all have juniors/seniors in high school). We're all thinking that it's looking like community college for our kids. The middle class has been priced out of public education in many respects. It saddens me, especially as a Univ. of California attendee myself, who graduated with zero debt after four dirt-cheap years. Anyway, I think that more and more kids are going to be applying to community colleges as these rates get more and more out of hand and stories of massive debt trickle down into the populace.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
14. That's outrageous. Does she think UC is bottomless Dept of Homeland Security?
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 05:45 PM
Nov 2014

UC is a public university & needs to stay affordable to its students and families. Raising the cost from 48,000(already too high) to 60,000 is downright obscene. That's just tuition, not even including room, board, books. And the consequences are pervasive...from effecting Ca property values to unemployment numbers. Unemployed adults trying to reroute their careers certainly cannot afford these costs either.

The answer is not to raise tuition or increase out of state enrollment. That cheats California taxpayers two ways.

Deep cuts to non educators and administrative positions seems pretty logical Costs there have mushroomed., while adjuncts have been lowered to poverty wages w/out benefits.

Brown & the legislature needs to come up with an additional revenue stream for UC. I'm looking at Silicon Valley...where Ca looses billions each year to these tax cheat corps who have incorporated off shore or in Nevada. Amazon was built on Ca taxpayers money...they had years of state tax exempt revenue while they enjoyed our state resources and enhanced competition.

Recently Ca voted to pay more to increase monies to education, specifically UC. Did that get diverted to prisons and "rainy days?"


Yeah, as a third generation Californian, this is downright tragic.



RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
16. Take a tip from students in Quebec
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:01 PM
Nov 2014


This is what Montréal looked like when the province tried to raise tuition fees, which at the time were already the lowest in all of Canada.

What's more, locals joined in solidarity with the students by staging demonstrations where participants clanged pots and pans in protest.



And when the province tried to institute an un-Constitutional law to prohibit the free speech, judges and lawyers from the province joined in.




In the aftermath of the protests, the ruling Liberal Party lost control of the provincial government. Liberal Premier Jean Charest was replaced by Pauline Marois of the Parti Quebecois, who kept her campaign promise to halt proposed tuition increases.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
17. Time was when Californians invested in their young people
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:43 PM
Nov 2014

knowing they were building for the future. I and 3 sibs graduated from UC in early 70's. It cost my folks so little that Dad started retirement savings accounts for us. Yeah, Ronnie Raygun's signature on my diploma.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
20. Ut oh more protests on the way
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:51 PM
Nov 2014

UC should be affordable for all Californians, we shouldn't have to kiss up to foreigners to keep afloat either

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
21. Sorry, kids. You could have had affordable public education, but we had to bomb the shit out of Iraq
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:55 PM
Nov 2014

to keep corporate executives rolling in the green stuff. It's all about choices, ya know?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
23. It never fuckin ends does it?
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:29 PM
Nov 2014

You can go to college in Europe for FREE!

This Country Just Abolished College Tuition Fees

by Joaquim Moreira Salles Posted on October 1, 2014


http://thinkprogress.org/education/2014/10/01/3574551/germany-free-college-tuition/

We will be totally destroyed by no limits out of fucking controlled capitalism!

QC

(26,371 posts)
24. Napolitano is getting $570,000 a year plus a $9950 a month house,
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:42 PM
Nov 2014

$8,916 a year for her car. And, oh yeah, $142,000 for the cost of moving.

Consider the similar salary scale of the legions of deanlets and assistant associate vice chancellors and the like, and I think one can find considerable cost savings in the system.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
27. Wow that's insane
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:50 PM
Nov 2014

If you needed an answer as to why millenials didn't show up at the polls, there you have it. Nobody is standing up for them while the system milks them dry for the benefit of a tiny few.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
30. that sucks, my son is a freshman at Cal-Berkeley
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:55 AM
Nov 2014

It was his choice to attend Cal, not mine. I'm just paying for it.

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