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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 07:02 PM Nov 2014

Grand Canyon, other parks float entry-fee increase

Source: Associated Press

Grand Canyon, other parks float entry-fee increase
By FELICIA FONSECA, Associated Press | November 7, 2014 | Updated: November 7, 2014 4:33pm

FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. (AP) — Visiting the Grand Canyon and other national parks could get a little pricier.

The National Park Service said 115 of its 401 units plan to seek public comment on entrance fees that could go up starting next year. It's part of a broader effort by the agency to bring in more money for visitor services and start addressing a backlog of projects ahead of its centennial.

"Obviously everyone would love to have fees not go up, but we also know the reality is budgets have been static and tight," said Patrick O'Driscoll, a spokesman in the agency's Intermountain Region based in Denver. "Fees are one of the only ways that parks can try to catch up with some important improvements, badly needed upgrades."

The Grand Canyon announced a proposal Friday to increase its single-vehicle entrance fee from $25 to $30 for a seven-day pass. Efforts to raise fees at other parks across the country will be wide-ranging but cannot top certain limits. The Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Yellowstone, Zion and Sequoia are among 10 parks where proposed entrance fees will be capped at $30 per vehicle or $15 per person, for example, the Park Service said.

About 130 national park units charge entrance fees, and they are able to keep 80 percent of those fees for use within the individual park. The other 20 percent goes into a pool and is distributed to parks that don't charge visitors to enter.


Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Grand-Canyon-other-parks-float-entry-fee-increase-5878614.php

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Grand Canyon, other parks float entry-fee increase (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2014 OP
They already priced the poor out of park access with their current fee JimDandy Nov 2014 #1
Really? And you know this how? People spend more than that on a pizza dinner FailureToCommunicate Nov 2014 #11
''Really? And you know this how? People spend more than that on a pizza dinner'' DeSwiss Nov 2014 #14
Okay, maybe not 'everyone'... FailureToCommunicate Nov 2014 #15
The NPS's own site acknowledges it. JimDandy Nov 2014 #18
This is what happens when you starve the budgets of federal agencies. alarimer Nov 2014 #2
I am getting ready to finally visit yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #4
You really MUST go! The increase is nothing. $15 to see the most spectacular thing on planet Earth? FailureToCommunicate Nov 2014 #10
it is beautiful. friends and i backpacked down hopemountain Nov 2014 #12
The fees are significant and I suggest everyone oppose the proposed increase. JimDandy Nov 2014 #19
But we have money for military equipment that LuckyLib Nov 2014 #3
If you're over 62 get a lifetime senior pass for $10 Zorro Nov 2014 #5
thanks for this. Much appreciated. riversedge Nov 2014 #9
My husband just got his pass in July. pamela Nov 2014 #17
I love my Senior Pass! And it covers my entire carload! Everybody gets in for free! NBachers Nov 2014 #20
Maybe it is time to change that. I wish the system was cheaper for everyone, but since it is newthinking Nov 2014 #24
Fire the top 10 people at the Park Service. Use that money. Tell the ones jtuck004 Nov 2014 #6
I don't think $30 for a carload of passengers is exorbitant TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #7
If it gets too costly, I'll just sneak in... C Moon Nov 2014 #8
Sure, what's a few more bucks in the kitty, eh? DeSwiss Nov 2014 #13
Way over due in my opinion. Xolodno Nov 2014 #16
Expensive now? Turbineguy Nov 2014 #21
I have a solution packman Nov 2014 #22
A family of four spends $212 on average to go to a Major League baseball game. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #23

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
1. They already priced the poor out of park access with their current fee
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 07:10 PM
Nov 2014

so I guess now it's time to try to price some more people out of our National Parks. Hooo ray!

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
11. Really? And you know this how? People spend more than that on a pizza dinner
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 09:21 PM
Nov 2014

The national parks are treasures secured for 'the rest of us' (including "the poor&quot

Amerca's 'best idea':

http://www.pbs.org/nationalparks/about/

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
18. The NPS's own site acknowledges it.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 12:52 AM
Nov 2014

Interestingly, one of the first surveys on NP fees revealed that, while poor people used the parks significantly less than more well-off people they were all for the higher user fees. Sort of a "since we can't afford the parks at least make the rich pay high user fees so our taxes don't go up to subsidize the parks for their use" mentality.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
2. This is what happens when you starve the budgets of federal agencies.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 07:15 PM
Nov 2014

I prefer national parks to military anything.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
4. I am getting ready to finally visit
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 07:19 PM
Nov 2014

The Grand Canyon. I thought it was free to get in. Well I am still going and glad to have the heads up on the cost. Military is fine. War is not.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
10. You really MUST go! The increase is nothing. $15 to see the most spectacular thing on planet Earth?
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 09:16 PM
Nov 2014

It's worth it. Folks spend that much to buy a crappy pizza.



(And believe it or not, NO photos do it justice)

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
12. it is beautiful. friends and i backpacked down
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:53 PM
Nov 2014

the tanner trail in june of '73 with special permission from the park service. an unforgettable experience.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
19. The fees are significant and I suggest everyone oppose the proposed increase.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 01:31 AM
Nov 2014

When our car load went to the Arizona side of the canyon, we were expecting to pay a $25 entrance for our car load of five. Instead, the park was closed to private vehicles. Access was by bus only at a cost of $12/person ($60!!! for our family) and if I recall correctly, we would have also had to pay to park our car outside the park. There were also user fees up to kazoo (for example camp site fees, etc).

That is not the cost of pizza. We could not afford it and turned around after having wasted the gas to get there from the highway.


pamela

(3,469 posts)
17. My husband just got his pass in July.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 12:34 AM
Nov 2014

I was happier about his birthday this year than he was. We're fulltime RVers and we've used the pass a bunch already, mainly for half off camping fees at Corps of Engineer parks. Those parks are 10 times prettier than private RV parks at about 1/4th of the price.

NBachers

(17,122 posts)
20. I love my Senior Pass! And it covers my entire carload! Everybody gets in for free!
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 03:18 AM
Nov 2014

The park staff is always real welcoming when I flash it. I just used it in Muir Woods a few weeks back.

I've used it in state parks, and they often give me a discount there, too!

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
24. Maybe it is time to change that. I wish the system was cheaper for everyone, but since it is
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:15 PM
Nov 2014

done this way it really is quite unfair to single out one group of people and have such a dramatically different approach.

Say maybe, the senior pass is no longer multi year. $10 a year is still incredibly discounted and cheap for almost all. And that pass includes not one but all parks.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
6. Fire the top 10 people at the Park Service. Use that money. Tell the ones
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 08:14 PM
Nov 2014

who are left that it is their mission to make sure that park is open to every American, since it belongs to them. They have 90 days, and then you will turn it over to the city park employees in Flagstaff. Bet they figure something out.

Maybe they could run a kickstarter campaign. They only get about $18 mill or so from entrance fees. Heck, we set aside $1.35 trillion for banksters who screwed the country, seems we could come up with $20 mill or so and let everyone into OUR parks without charging them AGAIN. (They already own it by being a citizen).

Visitors won't then be able to go back home and show funny movies and laugh at us for charging ourselves to get into our own property. "No, really, they do. I saw it with my own eyes".

Heck, maybe one of the banksters we made rich would...no, silly thought.

Get rid of the entrance fee and the sign. Makes it look like a taco stand. It is The People's property.

Find another way.


TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
7. I don't think $30 for a carload of passengers is exorbitant
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 08:18 PM
Nov 2014

Most of us don't live around the Grand Canyon and will spend a lot more money getting there. I never saw the Grand Canyon when I was growing up because we were too poor to make the trip - an entrance fee would have been the least of our concerns.

Frankly, I'm more concerned about he Republicans selling away our national treasures.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
8. If it gets too costly, I'll just sneak in...
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 08:20 PM
Nov 2014

...by crawling on oil the pipelines that will be probably be installed in the upcoming 2 years.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
16. Way over due in my opinion.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 12:02 AM
Nov 2014

Some of the lines to get in like Yosemite are way too long and the traffic is enormous....meanwhile, things get closed due to lack of funds, less park employee's for greater crowds, etc.

Entrance fee's aren't that abhorrent anyway. Pay once....get the whole week (I just purchase the annual all parks pass). People who complain it higher fee's hurt the less fortunate.....if there are such people...they probably can't afford to get there....let alone afford to stay overnight.

Turbineguy

(37,343 posts)
21. Expensive now?
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 08:17 AM
Nov 2014

Wait until the GOP sells the National Parks to the Chinese government to cover the money they borrowed to pay for the cost of killing people.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
22. I have a solution
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:36 AM
Nov 2014

Dam the Grand Canyon, sell the electricity-it pays for the park and we get a hell of a lake to boat on. Then start drilling and fracking on all those other park lands, make them pay for their existance.

And with our new Congress, this may be a reality.

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