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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:11 PM Nov 2014

Russia Agrees To Build Iran Atomic Reactors At Bushehr

Source: BBC News

Russia has agreed to build up to eight nuclear reactors in Iran, 12 days before a deadline for a deal to curb Iran's nuclear activity. The deal agreed by Russia and Iran envisages the construction of two reactors, with scope for a further six. World powers including Russia have been pressurising Iran to curb its activity amid fears it wants to build a bomb. Diplomats are due to meet for a final round of talks next week. It is unclear what effect the Russian deal will have.

Six world powers - the US, the UK, France, Germany, Russia and China - are seeking to persuade Iran to reduce its uranium enrichment to a level below that required to build a weapon. They have offered to lift sanctions in exchange. It is thought that Iran would want help with its civilian nuclear programme in return for submitting itself to more invasive inspections. Russian news reports quoted Iran's nuclear chief, Ali Akbar Salehi, as saying that the agreement on building the new reactors was "a turning point in the development of relations between our countries".

Two of the reactors will be built at the nuclear facility at Bushehr. Rosatom, the Russian state nuclear power company, said the construction would be monitored by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), a global watchdog, and will meet safeguards against weapons proliferation. The deal leaves room for a further two reactors to be built at Bushehr and another four at a separate location. According to the Associated Press news agency, Russia will supply nuclear fuel for the reactor and retrieve it after it has been used - a mechanism designed to stop Iran from using the fuel to build weapons.

A similar system is already in place for the existing reactor at Bushehr.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30015464?

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Monk06

(7,675 posts)
1. Well I guess stirring things up in Georgia, Syria and the Ukraine hasn't worked out so well.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:22 PM
Nov 2014

All them springs are definitely springin now !!!
 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
2. MSNBC said they had journalists on the ground reporting Russians moving in Ukraine
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:25 PM
Nov 2014

according to Alex Wagner this afternoon

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
3. And the Russian's would have stayed on their side of the fence if the US and the EU had not
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:40 PM
Nov 2014

supported an illegal coup. Both the Russian and Ukraine governments are controlled by gangsters.

The same could be said of the US and the EU.

So this is a war between gangsters. Just like WWI with the same countries in the thick of it in the same geographical areas.

Happy Remembrance Day, which it is in Canada. Remember the dead by starting the rampage and murder all over again. The irony is that the socalled world court is located where so many Canadians died and for nothing, it seems.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
4. No coup
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:24 AM
Nov 2014

The presidents own party of Regions and the rest of the democratically elected Rada voted to remove him after he took several days to pack his art and other loot and have Russia help him leave the country and abdicate his elected post. The interim Government held democratic elections as promised and not the have also had a new Rada democratically elected also. Both of these elections were held with nearly 100 international observers by numerous recognized agencies. This is quite unlike the self appointed leaders in the east.

So bottom line, no coup

So you agree that Russia invaded Ukraine against international laws, am I right?

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
5. No I do not. There is no law in the Ukraine. Not while the US is trying to bribe a rump government
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 01:45 AM
Nov 2014

into turning the Ukraine into a NATO missile base under the control of energy sector kleptocrats.

I hope the US enjoys Cold War part deux. You caused it. You deal with it.

It has been the stated goal of the PNAC cabal to prevent any country, especially Russia, from emerging or in Russia's case reemerging, as an influential world power.

International law? Who are you kidding besides yourself?

Now you have China and Russia forming an independent energy/military alliance that will extend from Turkey to Japan.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
6. How did I know this would get turned negative. This folks is GOOD for everyone. This is what the US
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 03:45 AM
Nov 2014

wants too. Both we and Russia have been trying to find ways to assure that their nuclear industry remains for energy production (not missiles).

bananas

(27,509 posts)
8. This isn't "good", "good" would be if they abandoned nuclear.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:33 AM
Nov 2014

Nuclear energy is dirty, dangerous, and expensive.
They are endangering the entire gulf.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
9. Leaving Iran with more gas and oil to export to nations that are anti-nuke.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:47 AM
Nov 2014


Everyone wins!

That's partly sarcastic, but I also think that a politically stable Iran is in everyone's best interest, especially for the people of Iran.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
10. You think a politically stable ultra-conservative right-wing theocracy is in everyone's best interest?
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 02:09 PM
Nov 2014

You think it's best for everyone they rig elections to stay in power?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Iranian_election_protests

hunter

(38,317 posts)
11. Maybe we should send our military in, like Iraq?
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 03:28 PM
Nov 2014

I don't think so.

Wars kill and maim more people than nuclear power.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
12. Those are the same false-choice arguments conservatives make.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 05:42 PM
Nov 2014

That kind of black-and-white thinking is destructive, because it leads to bad decisions.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/03/us-iran-nuclear-report-idUSBRE93200620130403

Iran's nuclear program entails huge costs, few benefits: report
By Yeganeh Torbati
DUBAI Tue Apr 2, 2013 8:11pm EDT

(Reuters) - Iran will pursue its nuclear quest although it has reaped few gains from a totem of national pride that has cost it well over $100 billion in lost oil revenue and foreign investment alone, two think-tanks said on Wednesday.

A report by the Washington-based Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the Federation of American Scientists said Iran's atomic work could not simply be ended or "bombed away" and that diplomacy was the only way to keep it peaceful.

"It is entangled with too much pride - however misguided - and sunk costs simply to be abandoned," the report's authors, Ali Vaez of the International Crisis Group and Carnegie's Karim Sadjadpour, said of Iran's five-decade-old nuclear program, which began under the U.S.-allied shah.

<snip>

"No sound strategic energy planning would prioritize nuclear energy in a country like Iran," the report said.

"Instead of enhancing Iran's energy security, the nuclear program has diminished the country's ability to diversify and achieve real energy independence."

The authors recommended that outside powers engage with Iranians through "grassroots public diplomacy" and make clear what they could gain by compromise.

<snip>

hunter

(38,317 posts)
13. Unless you are Iranian yourself, you are not going to change Iran.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 06:55 PM
Nov 2014

The sort of democracy you desire comes from within.

The average Iranian would rather deal with the corruption of their own institutions than have the corruption of empire U.S.A., Western Europe, or Russia imposed upon them.

Cops and social workers hate "domestic disturbance" calls because it's often difficult or impossible to determine who in the dispute has the higher ethical standing.

I don't see anything in black-and-white.


Yes, my guard stood hard when abstract threats
Too noble to neglect
Deceived me into thinking
I had something to protect
Good and bad, I define these terms
Quite clear, no doubt, somehow
Ah, but I was so much older then
I’m younger than that now

Yes, my guard stood hard when abstract threats
Too noble to neglect
Deceived me into thinking
I had something to protect
Good and bad, I define these terms
Quite clear, no doubt, somehow
Ah, but I was so much older then
I’m younger than that now

http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/my-back-pages


http://vimeo.com/36050070

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