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Typical NYC Lib

(182 posts)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:58 AM Apr 2012

Allen West: I've 'Heard' 80 House Democrats Are Communist Party Members

Source: HuffPo

WASHINGTON -- As many as 80 House Democrats are communists, according to Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.).

West warned constituents at a Tuesday town hall event that he's "heard" that dozens of his Democratic colleagues in the House are members of the Communist Party, the Palm Beach Post reported. West wouldn't elaborate beyond that, however, and didn't offer up any names. There are currently 190 House Democrats.

A request for comment from West's spokeswoman was not immediately returned.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/allen-west-democrats-communist-party_n_1417279.html



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Allen West: I've 'Heard' 80 House Democrats Are Communist Party Members (Original Post) Typical NYC Lib Apr 2012 OP
Name one, clown. SemperEadem Apr 2012 #1
+1 GrantDem Apr 2012 #18
CONGRESSIONAL RUBBER ROOM madashelltoo Apr 2012 #32
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #66
DSA is Democratic Socialists of America... cyberswede Apr 2012 #68
And they certainly are not communists. TBF Apr 2012 #131
The Socialist Party of America ceased to exist under that name in the early 1970s slackmaster Apr 2012 #69
LOL! What a total fail by that poster SemperEadem Apr 2012 #128
This lunatic is my congressman jaded_old_cynic Apr 2012 #75
He must have had a lot of help goclark Apr 2012 #152
West reminds me of that idiot Senator husband of Angela Lansbury catbyte Apr 2012 #109
The "Heinz 57" Communists kentauros Apr 2012 #145
The real question - will Mitt Romney denounce him, or embrace him like he did Birther king Trump? Adenoid_Hynkel Apr 2012 #111
"I have here in my hand a list of " zbdent Apr 2012 #2
Beat me to it Botany Apr 2012 #4
22nd, BUT....... Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #60
That is EXACTLY the scene that flashed to mind Jackpine Radical Apr 2012 #102
Thought of the same thing leftynyc Apr 2012 #8
I've heard Allen West likes to do it with goats bigworld Apr 2012 #3
Your saying it doesn't but my photos do saras Apr 2012 #38
Tail Gunner Joe McCarthy has been dead for 55 years now Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #5
I have a piece of "the wall" on my mantel Botany Apr 2012 #26
I was there!!! FourScore Apr 2012 #42
Me too! Doc Holliday Apr 2012 #108
So was my stepdad. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #135
Who is he anyway, McCarthy's ghost? LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #6
Having nothing of substance to say, the GOP has reduced itself to adolescent gossip. qb Apr 2012 #7
This is much worse than gossip. It's a return to the McCarthyism of the '50's, pnwmom Apr 2012 #104
They're really playing the oldies, aren't they? Sanity Claws Apr 2012 #9
Everything is reruns these days. And i do mean everything JHB Apr 2012 #34
That is amazing toon dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #71
Zombie Joe McCarthy. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2012 #10
There Never were MysticLynx Apr 2012 #52
"....the last true democracy was in Greece sometime before the fifth century ..." sarge43 Apr 2012 #73
I may have the dates MysticLynx Apr 2012 #94
It did not include women -- ever. sarge43 Apr 2012 #100
So just curious MysticLynx Apr 2012 #138
No sarge43 Apr 2012 #140
Thank You MysticLynx Apr 2012 #153
The U.S. Is A Militarized Oligarchy Yavin4 Apr 2012 #151
The spectre of commie rats in the 21st Century Zambero Apr 2012 #88
West needs to run for President this year on the Freeper ticket emulatorloo Apr 2012 #11
I heard Allen West likes to screw small animals. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2012 #12
Typical NYC Lib Diclotican Apr 2012 #13
I'll go with reply #5 Typical NYC Lib Apr 2012 #30
According to people who believe in 'cosmic cycles' we will undergo all they did in the 1930's again. freshwest Apr 2012 #47
freshwest Diclotican Apr 2012 #120
What are they drinking on the other side of the aisle? Swede Atlanta Apr 2012 #14
I suppose they're "taking their orders straight from the Kremlin" too? JHB Apr 2012 #15
Wow! Uncle Ruckus just can't come up with anything original, can he? n/t backscatter712 Apr 2012 #16
I am so tired of hearing from the lunatic fringe. nt avebury Apr 2012 #17
The only response is to ask; edhopper Apr 2012 #19
+1 nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2012 #130
He's so Fifties. Bonhomme Richard Apr 2012 #20
What a fucking pig! pscot Apr 2012 #21
I 'Know' Allen West is a total asshole. Octafish Apr 2012 #22
I've heard that Allen West is a repugnant fucking moron with shit for brains. Grown2Hate Apr 2012 #23
HAHAHA Rainngirl Apr 2012 #103
I've heard that George Bush (R) sat on his ass and did nothing on 9/11 Gibby Apr 2012 #24
This photo always brings to mind a new caption: LuckyLib Apr 2012 #44
No surprise if Romney thinks Russia is "Enemy #1" FailureToCommunicate Apr 2012 #25
It's getting to the point there has to be EC Apr 2012 #27
Unfortunately, he's immune . . . caseymoz Apr 2012 #154
I wish. nt TBF Apr 2012 #28
I heard West is a war-criminal and coward who's afraid to run for re-election in his own district Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #29
Fucking nutball. Hissyspit Apr 2012 #31
Heeeeey... watch yo mouth (fingers)! Some of us here are trying! Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #129
Sarah "nitwit" Palin says: PearliePoo2 Apr 2012 #33
game changer? marshall gaines Apr 2012 #53
And I've heard from dozens that Rep. Allen West raped and murdered a girl in 1990... DRoseDARs Apr 2012 #35
I HEARD That Allen West Heard That Glenn Beck Heard That West Raped and Murdered A Girl In 1990... Hissyspit Apr 2012 #40
I heard Allen West raped Glenn Beck and murdered.. hold on..or was it Glen Beck murdered Allen West? Swagman Apr 2012 #54
1991. Or maybe it was 1981. Or maybe it was Adam West. Someone I know heard it was sheep. saras Apr 2012 #41
Instead, we have many savvy people who can handle satire and they have a bowl of mixed nuts. DRoseDARs Apr 2012 #59
What I've heard ewagner Apr 2012 #36
Living here, Fuddnik Apr 2012 #76
Party like its 1959. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #37
We pay this guy's salary. HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #39
That IS disturbing! FailureToCommunicate Apr 2012 #118
This is like telling someone you're a vegetarian, Jamaal510 Apr 2012 #43
Florida-Florida-Florida Chipper Chat Apr 2012 #45
He is SO Rmoney VP material. Please, Mittens? Please!? nt onehandle Apr 2012 #46
that fuck*er should be sued /nt still_one Apr 2012 #48
In the Manchurian Candidate Mendocino Apr 2012 #49
again???????? marshall gaines Apr 2012 #50
I don't think these guys can function without a fear of the REDS. harun Apr 2012 #89
Republicans? But..... Typical NYC Lib Apr 2012 #125
If only... DURHAM D Apr 2012 #51
A gopper Iliyah Apr 2012 #55
Well then, maybe they could start voting like commies n2doc Apr 2012 #56
"As many as 80...." mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2012 #57
I've heard that Allen West rapes and murders children Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #58
Didn't he mean to say there are 57? cyberswede Apr 2012 #61
"There will be no covering up, sir!! No covering up!!" Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #82
The 50's called. They want their McCarthyism back meow2u3 Apr 2012 #62
Given the fact that our foreign-born, Muslim President is a Socialist, this seems only logical RufusTFirefly Apr 2012 #63
Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa. The old ways are best. nt bemildred Apr 2012 #64
And Ive heard Allen West is a buffoon. nt HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #65
That doesn't even compare to the number of Republicans who groovedaddy Apr 2012 #67
And he has a list right there in his coat pocket........ yellowcanine Apr 2012 #70
i heard allen west is a pathetic opportunist noiretextatique Apr 2012 #72
Me too - I guess the story is true! polichick Apr 2012 #74
allen..we trade with COMMUNIST CHINA madrchsod Apr 2012 #77
I wish. rug Apr 2012 #78
I've heard that dozens of Republicans in the House are Tories. drm604 Apr 2012 #79
That's really a very rational explanation. Tories WOULD tend to perceive Socialists everywhere. nt patrice Apr 2012 #83
Actually I meant Tories in the sense of revolutionary war Royalists. drm604 Apr 2012 #87
I know what a Tory is. Do you think royalists might be a bit paranoid about Communism/Socialism? patrice Apr 2012 #107
West has a guilty conscience. patrice Apr 2012 #80
Will Sen. McCarthy please pick up the white courtesy phone? n/t ColesCountyDem Apr 2012 #81
I've heard that Allen West is a Peeping Tom Zambero Apr 2012 #84
We've heard that 164 of the House GOP are pedophiles... Fresh_Start Apr 2012 #85
Mr. West the 1950s are calling. former9thward Apr 2012 #86
Mr. West the 1950s are calling. AlbertCat Apr 2012 #91
Red-baiting? FlyByNight Apr 2012 #90
And I've 'heard' allen west fucks goats. calimary Apr 2012 #92
Ohhhh... it's 80 members of the "Democrat" party! AlbertCat Apr 2012 #93
i have heard that allen west is cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #95
shouldn't he be reprimanded for saying that. n/t. okieinpain Apr 2012 #96
This coming from a representative of the Red Party. mwooldri Apr 2012 #97
Then Allen West needs is ears checked blackspade Apr 2012 #98
too many blows to the head Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #99
Dear Urkel Cheap_Trick Apr 2012 #101
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #105
Nice to know you can be completely insane CanonRay Apr 2012 #106
And so what if they are? RevStPatrick Apr 2012 #110
Joe McCarthy Lives! McCamy Taylor Apr 2012 #112
Did he hold up his briefcase? Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #113
I know 100,000 people who think Allen West is an asshole Bombero1956 Apr 2012 #114
I know that 100% of the US Congressmen from FL-22 are complete assholes. kcass1954 Apr 2012 #115
Don't laugh. THis is crazy. West needs to be dealt with. savalez Apr 2012 #116
He's dealing with "it" himself Typical NYC Lib Apr 2012 #124
If only, then perhaps we wouldn't be passing so many re-packaged GOP laws. Dragonfli Apr 2012 #117
Joe McCarthy called from hell. bikebloke Apr 2012 #119
got it marshall gaines Apr 2012 #121
Barney Frank: 'Not Even Joe McCarthy Would Have Said Anything So Stupid' Typical NYC Lib Apr 2012 #122
Well you know, Alan, I've heard Berlin Expat Apr 2012 #123
I've heard that West is advocating a name change from the Republican Party to the Fascist Party. truthisfreedom Apr 2012 #126
Nah Typical NYC Lib Apr 2012 #139
somebody already said what I was going to say alarimer Apr 2012 #127
Funny, I heard a guy named West was Article 15ed and forced to Retire from the military.. Katashi_itto Apr 2012 #132
What year is this? Iris Apr 2012 #133
Yeah Alan? Well I heard you are a dung heap! muntrv Apr 2012 #134
Just what was in that TEA at that PARTY? timesup Apr 2012 #136
I've heard that every Republican is a Nazi who worships Hitler! Odin2005 Apr 2012 #137
I heard that too. patrice Apr 2012 #142
What a morAn. nt Lucky Luciano Apr 2012 #141
This is the freak Sarah Palin endorsed for Republican VP spiderpig Apr 2012 #143
I've heard that every House Republican secretly met together Jamaal510 Apr 2012 #144
The most curious irony of West's accusations. AdHocSolver Apr 2012 #146
"I've heard Alan West sleeps with his mother".... Hulk Apr 2012 #147
This man is crazed. Turbineguy Apr 2012 #148
I heard Alan West is an asshole!!! center rising Apr 2012 #149
I've heard all House Republicans are members of the The American Nazi Party! santamargarita Apr 2012 #150
Allen West has cracked his bell. caseymoz Apr 2012 #155
I can't say I like opinions being hidden by a jury tru Apr 2012 #156
Allen left out the part where he says Skip_In_Boulder Apr 2012 #157
I'm African American goclark Apr 2012 #158

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
1. Name one, clown.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:00 AM
Apr 2012

Hell, name them all--you cannot make a declaration like that and then say "uh, I don't know..." Of course you know--and if you were a "good American", you would out them for being the scourge of the country your party is still trying to make them.

So go on... we're waiting. Name ONE. I fucking dare you.



Oh, and the reason why the President is not going to debate you? You are not running for the office of Presidency. That is the only person a standing President debates. You and that ignorant ass spalin barking your demands for a debate with a standing president--you both are delusional as to your own puffed up sense of self-importance.

for someone who is going to lose when it's his turn to run for re-election, you'd think he'd stfu and do something constructive to bring prosperity and jobs to south florida instead of shooting off his mouth. The military obviously does not teach much discipline.

madashelltoo

(1,704 posts)
32. CONGRESSIONAL RUBBER ROOM
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:18 AM
Apr 2012

There has to be at least one vacant for this character. How insane does a member of congress have to be to get the room?

SPEAKER: Allen West. Allen West. Your room is ready.

Response to SemperEadem (Reply #1)

TBF

(32,111 posts)
131. And they certainly are not communists.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:36 PM
Apr 2012

What an idiot ... we should be so lucky as to have 80 communists in this country - most were deported decades ago. And that is part of the reason the capitalism has spiraled out of control. Labor had a lot more power to influence elections back in the 1920s-40s. That threat made programs like the New Deal possible. Contrast that to today.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
69. The Socialist Party of America ceased to exist under that name in the early 1970s
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:16 AM
Apr 2012

You have posted an urban myth, and welcome to DU.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
128. LOL! What a total fail by that poster
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:19 PM
Apr 2012

aside from the fact that unless they're west, I wasn't talking to them.

Thanks, slackmaster!

jaded_old_cynic

(190 posts)
75. This lunatic is my congressman
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:29 AM
Apr 2012

I'm still puzzling over how he even got elected here. The man is certifiable. While most of the rest of the state is comprised of wingnuts, South Florida is usually blue.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
152. He must have had a lot of help
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 12:24 PM
Apr 2012

from Rethugs with $$$$$$$$$.

I'm AA and I wanted to put my fist on the tv screen when I see him.

Another Brother being used -- sad.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
145. The "Heinz 57" Communists
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:10 AM
Apr 2012


I know for a fact that if I had been in the audience I would have laughed heartily out loud!
 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
111. The real question - will Mitt Romney denounce him, or embrace him like he did Birther king Trump?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:23 PM
Apr 2012

The media needs to ask Willard where he stands on Allen 'Cut and Run" West's latest ugliness.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,219 posts)
60. 22nd, BUT.......
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:00 AM
Apr 2012

....the self-proclaimed war hero (more like war criminal) was too afraid he'd lose a re-election battle in that district, so he hopped ship to the 18th District which he percieved to be more safe.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
8. Thought of the same thing
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:03 AM
Apr 2012

Where is our side demanding he put up or shut up? Fucking war criminal loser.

Cirque du So-What

(26,004 posts)
5. Tail Gunner Joe McCarthy has been dead for 55 years now
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:02 AM
Apr 2012

and the Soviet Union dissolved for 21 years. Red-baiting is soo passé that his assertion is redickaless.

Botany

(70,615 posts)
26. I have a piece of "the wall" on my mantel
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:16 AM
Apr 2012


I even got drunk w/ East German Soldiers in Dresden once.

Can you imagine if a Democrat had said something like this?

Doc Holliday

(719 posts)
108. Me too!
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:07 PM
Apr 2012

Still got my little piece of history, chipped out with my own two hands and a borrowed hammer.

The German media called us "woodpeckers"....remember that?

LeftishBrit

(41,212 posts)
6. Who is he anyway, McCarthy's ghost?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:02 AM
Apr 2012

I thought that, since the fall of the Soviet Union, the communists had been replaced by the terrorists as chief bogeymen, anyway.

qb

(5,924 posts)
7. Having nothing of substance to say, the GOP has reduced itself to adolescent gossip.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:03 AM
Apr 2012

I suppose that plays well to their small-minded base.

pnwmom

(109,011 posts)
104. This is much worse than gossip. It's a return to the McCarthyism of the '50's,
Reply to qb (Reply #7)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:48 PM
Apr 2012

one of the worst eras of our country.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
34. Everything is reruns these days. And i do mean everything
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:18 AM
Apr 2012

Title: The Republican Party going to the right House

Year: 1860

Creator: Currier & Ives

Description: Abraham Lincoln's supporters are portrayed as radicals and eccentrics of various stripes. The satire is loosely based on an anti-Fremont cartoon from the previous presidential race, "The Great Republican Reform Party" (no. 1856-22), also issued by Nathaniel Currier. Here Lincoln, sitting astride a wooden rail borne by Horace Greeley, leads his followers toward a lunatic asylum. Greeley instructs him, "Hold on to me Abe, and we'll go in here by the unanimous consent of the people." Lincoln exhorts his followers, "Now my friends I'm almost in, and the millennium is going to begin, so ask what you will and it shall be granted." At the head of the group is a bearded man, arm-in-arm with a woman and a Mormon. He claims to "represent the free love element, and expect to have free license to carry out its principles." The woman looks at Lincoln, saying "Oh! what a beautiful man he is, I feel a passionate attraction' every time I see his lovely face." The Mormon adds, "I want religion abolished and the book of Mormon made the standard of morality." They are followed by a dandified free black, who announces, "De white man hab no rights dat cullud pussons am bound to spect' I want dat understood." Behind him an aging suffragette says, "I want womans rights enforced, and man reduced in subjection to her authority." Next a ragged socialist or Fourierist, holding a liquor bottle, asserts, "I want everybody to have a share of everybody elses property." At the end of the group are three hooligans, one demanding "a hotel established by government, where people that aint inclined to work, can board free of expense, and be found in rum and tobacco." The second, a thief, wants "the right to examine every other citizen's pockets without interruption by Policemen." The last, an Irish street tough, says, "I want all the stations houses burned up, and the M.P.s killed, so that the bohoys can run with the machine and have a muss when they please."


Reminder: in 1860, the Republicans were the 'radical left' party -- JHB

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,900 posts)
10. Zombie Joe McCarthy.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:06 AM
Apr 2012

I have here in my hand a list of 80....


Wadda maroon.


Are there even any Communists around any more?

MysticLynx

(51 posts)
52. There Never were
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:47 AM
Apr 2012

any real communist, what we called communism was more akin to fascism than actual communism, same thing with socialism. There has never been a true communist or socialist gov't - same goes for democracy- the last true democracy was in Greece sometime before the fifth century- what most countries have that is 'called' democracy actually is not a true democracy.

sarge43

(28,946 posts)
73. "....the last true democracy was in Greece sometime before the fifth century ..."
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:20 AM
Apr 2012

That would be news to the Greek women and slaves 500BCE

MysticLynx

(51 posts)
94. I may have the dates
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:21 PM
Apr 2012

wrong - however Greece was the last true direct democracy- though short lived.

And no it did not include 'non-citizens' women or slaves. However until not to long ago neither did the US.

sarge43

(28,946 posts)
100. It did not include women -- ever.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:39 PM
Apr 2012

Any society which forbids more than half its adult citizens franchise can not be called a democracy.

MysticLynx

(51 posts)
153. Thank You
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 12:51 PM
Apr 2012

For the response- quite frankly I tend to encounter many people that claim the US is a democracy while not really understanding how a true democracy really works

Yavin4

(35,452 posts)
151. The U.S. Is A Militarized Oligarchy
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:01 AM
Apr 2012

with just enough free speech and a little democracy to thwart mass uprisings.

Zambero

(8,976 posts)
88. The spectre of commie rats in the 21st Century
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:04 PM
Apr 2012

"Are there even any Communists around any more?"

No, not really. But your garden variety wing-nut desperately needs to believe that there are. It helps put them in a nice fuzzy-wuzzy 1950's frame of mind!
Right about now it's "bedcheck" time. One can't be too safe -- they like to lurk under decent folks beds y'know!

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
13. Typical NYC Lib
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:07 AM
Apr 2012

Typical NYC Lib

It could be funny - if not for the last time when the ghost of a "communist conspiration" against the US, let to ten of thousands innocents be accused, and even lost their livelihood because of a false accusation against been member of a communist party.. Even when it was never true... Even famous people, like Charlin Chaplin was accused of that. And in fact he had to leave the country, and he ended up in Switzerland as one of the more famous victims of the cold war paranoia...

So be beware for what could happened, if that shit start live on its own...

Diclotican

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
47. According to people who believe in 'cosmic cycles' we will undergo all they did in the 1930's again.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:38 AM
Apr 2012

Not a scenario any generation wants to relive again.

The right certainly wants to give it 'a life of its own' as it's worked so well before. About a third of the people in this country have minds that simply quit functioning at the word 'socialism' or 'communism,' the imprint of infamous examples are all they hear, not the theories.

People losing their jobs and homes, the rich making out like bandits, just as they did before back in 1929, because the regulations FDR put in place have been eviscerated. They've been screaming 'economic crash and we must return to the gold standard,' because they desperately want a collapse. Our world is owned by the people who profited from that crash, because it was not a failure for their way of doing business.

Many people only think of the suffering of the many from the Great Depression, but great fortunes were made by the 1% as have been made since the 1980's. Reining them in is like Hercules cleaning the Augean stables, nasty, requiring guile and thankless.

The Bush family is as involved as they were then, and on the side of the authoritarians and war profiteers, just as they were then. Fox News and hate radio are Orwellian in their use of psychology. Demagogues are being elected state after state, and running for POTUS. Nazis are patrolling in Florida and other states and we have outbreaks of violence from the right.

Adding in the attacks on the poor and disabled, and all the other '14 Signs of Fascism,' and yes, I can see it 'happening here.' We're walking a fine line, and we may not win. We're in for a radical transformation of the world, hopefully for the better. IMHO.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
120. freshwest
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:42 PM
Apr 2012

freshwest

I don't know about cosmic cycles, but I do know what could happened, with the ones who doesn't learn from history. And stay vigilant when the same thing happened again.... And to be honest, most americans have no clue what could become them, if anything like the nazis ts was to ever rise their ugly head in the US... It was BAD in Europe under the nazi rule in Germany - and the occupation of most of Europe.. Until Pearl Harbor in 1941, President FDR had to go a thin like between been able to help UK and Churchill, and appease the many who wanted US to stay out of "an europe ran war we doesn't have any business going into".. And FDR had to play the game of being natural - but helping UK as best as he was able to do.... And to be honest, if it was not for the fact that Japan attacked Hawaii, I am afraid that UK, and most of EUROPE would have been under the sway of Hitler for a long time... UK was by November/December 1941 on the verge of suing for peace... The attack by Japan, and the answer from Germany and Hitler, why gave US the war (the speech was by experts on the issue properly the best oratorical speech Hitler ever was able to give the german people ever) Was one big vitamin pill for the UK, and for most of the occupied Europeans... When US got into the war, it was clearly Hitler was not able to win the war....

The great depressions in the 1930s was a horrible time, where many found them selfs in need of something to blame for their own misfortunes.. Many claimed it to be the jews - others claimed it to be other groups... In germany, as in Italy and in many other nations in Europe, it ended in fascism in one way or another... In US it thankfully doesn't ended in fascism, even tho it was a short wile, after FDR was elected president in 1933, that many US officers up to the rank of generals, wanted to make a coupe against the legal president - to give the US a more fascism like ideology... Thankfully to some decent, hardworking american officers, who decided to be on the right side of history, this coup never happened. Even tho the whole case was under the rug for more than 60 year after the facts... I think Roosevelt possible was afraid of what else could happened, if he wanted to make a stand against it, early in the 1930s.. Event ho he in the 1940 did more than anyone else in the US, to fight against the fascism in Europe or elsewhere.. But in the 1930s, Roosevelt had enough on his plate to repair, and the whole affair with the officers who wanted to make coup against the president never got the attention it should have been given....

You are also right in that some get a lot of money, on the back of the money, even under the deep depression.. Even tho many was hurt by the depression, some always came up on the top, even before world war two, who really got the train going - long after the war...

But the fact is, that US, doesn't have any Franklin D. Roosevelt in office now.. Your current president Obama, for all his virtues is just one man against a big ugly machine that doesn't want anything less than to squish him to small pieces if they could do it.. The Neo-liberal ideology who since Reagan have been given foot and hand in the US governance is the biggest treat to the same Democracy they claim to fight for... What they want, is a country ruled by the rich, for the rich and dam the rest.. After more or less managed to destroy the trade unions in the 1970s and 1980s, and castrate everyone who is against the ideology of the neo-liberalistic ideology I am not sure what to do, to win that war... But I do believe, that neo-liberal ideology is a danger to the world - as nazism was it before ..

The attack against disabled and poor is nothing new in the world.. It looks like disability is something that "healthy ones" can mock about, even when they might one day find them self in the same boat so to say. I am on disability myself - and I have found that even in my own country (who most americans I have known here on DU looks to as more or less heaven ) some says that people with disability should get out working instead of living on the public dime... Well I have tried to get out in work for the last 2-3 years - and the employment office have more or less said "sorry, you are on disability and we doesn't want to take your case, as it Will be a long way to get you out in a job".... So yeah I know what it means, to be told "why are you not out working, you looks fine".. Yeah, they should have my arthritis, my depression and so one.... I would work, if I was able to.... But I'm not;/

The Bush family, specially the old Prescott Bush himself is a history of treason.. If it was one way of justice in the world, Prescott Bush should have been arrested, convicted, and put in a prison cell for the rest of his natural life for the treason against US.. Not just because he was bankrolling the nazi st who wanted to trow out Roosevelt in the 1930s.. But also for the fact, that he was doing business with the Nazi-Regime long after war was declared upon US in 1941...

The specially of hate radio is another specially for the extreme right in the US i would presume... Most of them would never been able, or given permission to even talk on most european channels, as most european nations still have a "fairness doctrine" intact in the airwaves.. I have had the misfortune of hearing some of the hate-radio by internet looking for some radios from US.. And i am pretty scared about the tone against minorities and everyone else who might be attacked that day.... That type of media would never be allowed on this side of the pond... We had that in the 1930s, when Dr Gobbles was making a scene for it all... Most of Europe, learned the hard way, what could happend if "hate" radio ever make it to the public again...

What we all need, is the americans to wake up and smell the shit as it is.. And then work against it to make US what it once was - a prosperius, rich country who the rest of the world was admiring and wanted to be like... The symbols of US, like the Coca-Cola and Mickey Mouse was one of the first symbols to really make it big in eastern Europe, after the wall was going down... That symbols could again mean something for most of us... As it once did (even tho Cola is maybe not the most healty ideal to live by )

Sometimes I miss the time when I admired US for all its virtues, and for all the god things she did for the world.. The last decade of so, have been a great disapointed for me.... US is not what I once belived it to be...

Diclotican

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
14. What are they drinking on the other side of the aisle?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:07 AM
Apr 2012

First of all I have no problems with Communists participating in our democratic political system. They have as much a right as a fascist to engage in discussion and persuasion.

But as to his allegations, he has no proof and I would suggest there is not a single member of Congress that is a member of the Communist Party.

He is a two-bit party hack.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
15. I suppose they're "taking their orders straight from the Kremlin" too?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:08 AM
Apr 2012

How does that work, since the only Reds these days are Republicans?


Dear Hon. Rep. West: I've heard Washington is filled with batshit-crazy Republicans. Frankly, sir, that claim has much more proof than yours.

edhopper

(33,639 posts)
19. The only response is to ask;
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:10 AM
Apr 2012

"Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?".

Grown2Hate

(2,013 posts)
23. I've heard that Allen West is a repugnant fucking moron with shit for brains.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:12 AM
Apr 2012

I just said it myself, and I overhead it.

 

Gibby

(96 posts)
24. I've heard that George Bush (R) sat on his ass and did nothing on 9/11
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:12 AM
Apr 2012

even after over 60 warnings beforehand. I heard he just sat there looking stupid like a total Republican fail artiste and did doodley squat reading a children's book while America was under attack by the Bush family cronies from Saudi Arabia. One does hear a lot of strange things.


LuckyLib

(6,821 posts)
44. This photo always brings to mind a new caption:
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:31 AM
Apr 2012

"Dang-it. I'm going to have to miss the Rangers game on Saturday."

FailureToCommunicate

(14,026 posts)
25. No surprise if Romney thinks Russia is "Enemy #1"
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:15 AM
Apr 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101483666

The GOP is desperate to distract the easily distracted that ANYBODY other than THEM is the problem!

EC

(12,287 posts)
27. It's getting to the point there has to be
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:16 AM
Apr 2012

some sort of punishment for out and out lies. If he starts naming names, I hope they sue the pants off this d..k. The lying has to stop and this guy is the worst. Or he's just plain stupid and gullable...I'll bet all the other house members laugh at this guy. And to think he's an Officer in the military...makes me wonder about the intelligence of the rest.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
154. Unfortunately, he's immune . . .
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:50 AM
Apr 2012

from being sued for anything he says on the House floor. That's long-held Constitutional protection. I don't know where he happened to drop this gem.

And unfortunately, I think he probably believes what he's saying. I think the guy has a cracked bell.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,219 posts)
29. I heard West is a war-criminal and coward who's afraid to run for re-election in his own district
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:17 AM
Apr 2012

But I won't name my sources.

To paraphrase our President, "He's a jackass."

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
35. And I've heard from dozens that Rep. Allen West raped and murdered a girl in 1990...
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:19 AM
Apr 2012

Now certainly, I don't believe that Rep. Allen West raped and murdered a girl in 1990, but the fact that I've heard dozens say that Rep. Allen West raped and murdered a girl in 1990 does beg the question of how such a rumor that Rep. Allen West raped and murdered a girl in 1990 would be floating out there. It's quite the accusation that Rep. Allen West raped and murdered a girl in 1990 and it really needs to be substantiated or at the very least, his office needs to forcefully deny that Rep. Allen West raped and murdered a girl in 1990 less it becomes an Internet meme or something...

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
40. I HEARD That Allen West Heard That Glenn Beck Heard That West Raped and Murdered A Girl In 1990...
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:27 AM
Apr 2012

Because she knew which 80 Democrats in the House of Representatives were Communists. (It's proof of the conspiracy that it is always a consistent 80. There is a laundry list somewhere that explains why.)

Well, that's what I heard.

Just sayin'...

Swagman

(1,934 posts)
54. I heard Allen West raped Glenn Beck and murdered.. hold on..or was it Glen Beck murdered Allen West?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:48 AM
Apr 2012

oh hell..I heard a rumour about something.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
41. 1991. Or maybe it was 1981. Or maybe it was Adam West. Someone I know heard it was sheep.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:27 AM
Apr 2012

You know, if there really was any kind of equivalence to the "left" and "right", like they were legitimate political divisions of people, then the entirety of DU would consist of that sort of rumor-mongering - OR - Free Republic would ban trolls and liars as fast as DU does.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
59. Instead, we have many savvy people who can handle satire and they have a bowl of mixed nuts.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:00 AM
Apr 2012

I think I like this arrangement better.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
39. We pay this guy's salary.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:26 AM
Apr 2012

. . . and the salaries of congressional members who think global warming's a hoax and America would be better off as a theocracy.

That, to me, is probably scarier shit than Red-Baiting in 2012.

Mendocino

(7,515 posts)
49. In the Manchurian Candidate
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:41 AM
Apr 2012

the doltish Senator Iselin portrayed by the great James Gregory, can't decide on the number of commies in congress, is ninety too many,

fifty too few. Something like that, I can't recall the exact numbers.

 

Typical NYC Lib

(182 posts)
125. Republicans? But.....
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:27 PM
Apr 2012

they are the reds! Aren't they?

NBC's 1980 Electoral Map had it right: Why the zeitgeist changed is something I'll never know.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
55. A gopper
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:49 AM
Apr 2012

exposing himself and some of this gopper colleagues. Remember when they are blaming someone else it means its them who are goind the deed.

You have been exposed Mr. Ahole

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
82. "There will be no covering up, sir!! No covering up!!"
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:49 AM
Apr 2012

Last edited Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:36 AM - Edit history (1)

That film hasn't lost any of its brilliance or bite in 50 years...

groovedaddy

(6,229 posts)
67. That doesn't even compare to the number of Republicans who
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:08 AM
Apr 2012

are members of the Nazi party...or so I've been told.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
72. i heard allen west is a pathetic opportunist
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:19 AM
Apr 2012

telling blatant lies to his brain-dead supporters, who is only on the national scene because his is a black teabagger.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
77. allen..we trade with COMMUNIST CHINA
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:42 AM
Apr 2012

we owe hundreds of billions of dollars to RED CHINA.

just think of the people who vote for this idiot....

patrice

(47,992 posts)
83. That's really a very rational explanation. Tories WOULD tend to perceive Socialists everywhere. nt
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:53 AM
Apr 2012

drm604

(16,230 posts)
87. Actually I meant Tories in the sense of revolutionary war Royalists.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:01 PM
Apr 2012

After all, the British Crown is still a threat to the colonies' independence!

patrice

(47,992 posts)
107. I know what a Tory is. Do you think royalists might be a bit paranoid about Communism/Socialism?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:04 PM
Apr 2012

patrice

(47,992 posts)
80. West has a guilty conscience.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:45 AM
Apr 2012

Q. Out of all that West could imagine Dems to be, *W*H*Y* would he imagine THAT particular boogey-man??? A. Projecting his inner socialist onto others, so that he can exonerate himself.

When you're a bent nail, even if you are a king, everyone looks like a hammer.

.............................................

Apparently his constituents are starting to use the word "Socialist" in unrestricted ways not prescribed by the media engineers who brought us "morning in America".

Zambero

(8,976 posts)
84. I've heard that Allen West is a Peeping Tom
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:54 AM
Apr 2012

Out all night peering into windows, always on the lookout for suspected commies, "sex perverts", and other affronts to America and apple pie. There you have it. Now you've heard it too!

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
85. We've heard that 164 of the House GOP are pedophiles...
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:59 AM
Apr 2012

and that the sky is down and that water is not wet....

calimary

(81,527 posts)
92. And I've 'heard' allen west fucks goats.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:17 PM
Apr 2012

And that "dozens of his republi-CON colleagues in the House are members of the Goat-Fuckers Auxiliary to the GOP. But I won't elaborate beyond that. There are currently more than 200 miserable republi-CON vermin in the House.

Pass it on.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
93. Ohhhh... it's 80 members of the "Democrat" party!
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:19 PM
Apr 2012

Whew! At least the Democratic Party isn't affected!







What a moron!

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
97. This coming from a representative of the Red Party.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:32 PM
Apr 2012

Weren't Communists referred to once upon a time as the Reds?

Aren't Conservatives supposed to be blue?

Then why are Republican states now known as Red States and Democratic states known as Blue States?

Wasn't there a phrase once upon a time "Better dead than red"?

Mr. West, where's your proof?

Response to Typical NYC Lib (Original post)

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
110. And so what if they are?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:15 PM
Apr 2012

It's not against the law to be a member of a political party.
Of course, the Communist Party probably has about 80 members altogether, so is West suggesting that the whole party is in congress?

I used to work a block away from Communist Party headquarters on 23rd street in Manhattan.
I stopped in there once to check it out, mainly for laughs.
It was pretty pathetic.
A couple of sad, lonely old commies and some badly written material, and that was about it.
Nothing to be afraid of there.

West is a nutball...

Bombero1956

(3,539 posts)
114. I know 100,000 people who think Allen West is an asshole
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:08 PM
Apr 2012

Last edited Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:19 PM - Edit history (1)

and I can name names.

savalez

(3,517 posts)
116. Don't laugh. THis is crazy. West needs to be dealt with.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:03 PM
Apr 2012

He needs to be put in the spot light and asked to explain himself.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
117. If only, then perhaps we wouldn't be passing so many re-packaged GOP laws.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:05 PM
Apr 2012

In reality he is just an asshat.

I truly wish there were some communists in the mix to balance out all the fascists populating the center and right in this country.

 

Typical NYC Lib

(182 posts)
122. Barney Frank: 'Not Even Joe McCarthy Would Have Said Anything So Stupid'
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:37 PM
Apr 2012


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/barney-frank-allen-west_n_1418537.html

WASHINGTON -- Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) on Wednesday tore into Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) for saying that members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus are communists.

"Not even Joe McCarthy would have said anything so stupid and dissociated from reality," Frank said in a call with The Huffington Post. "It's an indication of the significant deterioration of the Republican Party as a responsible entity that an ignorant, mean guy like Allen West is considered one of their stars."

Berlin Expat

(950 posts)
123. Well you know, Alan, I've heard
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:54 PM
Apr 2012

that you are, in essence, a war criminal. You just got damned lucky and was never formally charged with that offense.

How do you answer that one?

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
132. Funny, I heard a guy named West was Article 15ed and forced to Retire from the military..
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:57 PM
Apr 2012

...West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[10] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.

Fucking scumbag.

http://articles.cnn.com/2003-12-12/us/sprj.nirq.west.ruling_1_allen-west-iraqi-detainee-military-justice?_s=PM:US

timesup

(88 posts)
136. Just what was in that TEA at that PARTY?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:13 PM
Apr 2012

AW hit every branch on the stupid tree then hit a trampoline and smacked them all again, it would appear.

It would be news if he said something wise.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
143. This is the freak Sarah Palin endorsed for Republican VP
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 12:42 AM
Apr 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125127471

Sarah Palin says there’s one name at the top of her list if the Republican Party wants to “go rogue” in its pick for the vice presidential nominee: Rep. Allen West.

The former vice presidential candidate told Fox News’s Sean Hannity on Tuesday that the Florida Republican would be a great choice for the 2012 ticket. She argued that the eventual presidential nominee shouldn’t “think they have to go with somebody necessarily safe.”

“Top of my list is Allen West,” she said. “I love that he has that military experience. He is a public servant willing to serve for the right reasons. He understands the Constitution. He understands our national foreign policy issues that must be addressed. He has served. I really like him. There are so many, Sean, that are out there. And when I talk about going rogue, what I want to do is encourage the GOP nominee to not think that they have to go with somebody necessarily safe that conventional wisdom perhaps would lead somebody to believe that, if it’s somebody, quote-unquote, safe, that they’re not going to get beat up by the media, because no matter who it is.”

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
144. I've heard that every House Republican secretly met together
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 12:50 AM
Apr 2012

to propose legislation to make slavery legal again.

AdHocSolver

(2,561 posts)
146. The most curious irony of West's accusations.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:26 AM
Apr 2012

If Communists are so bad, how come our major corporate masters have sent our highest technology and so many of our jobs to Communist China?

Why doesn't Mr. West complain to our corporate masters for their massive support of Communists?

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
147. "I've heard Alan West sleeps with his mother"....
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:50 AM
Apr 2012

This turd for brains is jockeying for a spot on the fox-propaganda network when he gets booted out of his Congress seat in disgrace in the next election. What a complete idiot.

santamargarita

(3,170 posts)
150. I've heard all House Republicans are members of the The American Nazi Party!
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:53 AM
Apr 2012

And the Senate Republicans belong to the American Taliban!

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
155. Allen West has cracked his bell.
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:54 AM
Apr 2012

Now we can confirm he hears voices.

Even Karl Rove wouldn't say this. It went so well the first time.
 

tru

(237 posts)
156. I can't say I like opinions being hidden by a jury
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:58 AM
Apr 2012

Obscenities, personal attacks, yes, but not political opinions. At least there's a Show option.

Let the rightwing insanity hang out, the poster might learn something, like he's posted an urban legend.

My local Patch hides comments irretrievably if enough other readers vote against them. That's why I no longer give them my clicks.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
158. I'm African American
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:24 PM
Apr 2012

so I feel that I can say this ~ There are so many brilliant members of our race that could be elected/have been elected to political positions ~ and then we have:

Clarence Thomas

Mr. 999 Herman Cain

and this WEST idiot!

All three IMO were hand picked to do the dirty work for the GOP.

It has been my view that the GOP may have given CAIN all that Air Time so that Whites that were a bit more liberal would think that they were "reaching out" to our race ~ wrong!

CAIN is a finished fool (everyone that I know was ashamed that 999 was AA -- he set our race back at least 50 years. I believe that the GOP was afraid that he was going to get too much support so they "found" the " AA girlfriend" with all the phone calls and they let him sink.

I don't hardly believe that the AA community where he lived ( Georgia?) didn't know all about his little lunch dates etc. with that lady --- they knew but many times we will let our politicians and community "leaders" get away with stuff.

I wonder if the GOP gave him $999 to vanish and continue his book tour?.

Recall that earlier the GOP even let him get away with the charges from the 2/3? White ladies for at least a month and they never opened their mouth about it. That was odd but they didn't care because they had to keep using him at that time, again IMO.

CLARENCE has been quoted as saying that his TEA BAGGER wife ( who happens to be White) ~ recall that the GOP has not to my knowledge said a word about him having a White Wife. Funny how that doesn't bother the GOP but Trayvon is not on their radar at all for sympathy .

I read a quote somewhere that he said something like , " I believe anything that my Wife believes."

Yet, they let Thomas stay on the Bench and they don't say a word.
Why -- because they need him like crazy to fight OBAMA and the "Democrat" Party, he is in their pockets!

By the way, our community never believed that she did those things.did any from all I've ever heard she is a lovely person. But, even with all that baggage he was holding, they STILL put him on the Supreme Court.

Now we have this ALLEN idiot ~ I have never even heard of him. He is nice looking but they must have paid him big money to make that statement.
He is a finished fool and I pray that he is FINISHED. Just watch ~ they will continue to use him until they use him up!

Hope I didn't offend anyone but this is how I feel about these clowns.

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