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Ferguson Prosecutor Robert McCulloch Gives Bizarre Press Conference (Original Post) LiberalElite Nov 2014 OP
Tend to Agree Treant Nov 2014 #1
"I kept wondering why the constant smear campaign against witnesses" left-of-center2012 Nov 2014 #2
witnesses kardonb Nov 2014 #5
"He laid out the case clearly and understandably." left-of-center2012 Nov 2014 #7
Seriously? nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #14
The FReeps who troll DU on a regular basis are really showing their asses on this one. Chakab Nov 2014 #16
What he presented were defense closing arguments CanonRay Nov 2014 #17
I would dearly love for you to create a thread in General Discussion KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #20
I have one question for the prosecutor CanonRay Nov 2014 #21
Exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #23
10 feet? confoosed Nov 2014 #24
I was Federal, we never had a 21 foot rule CanonRay Nov 2014 #25
He didn't explain how that murderer's gun came to be out of its holster, did he???? - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #19
WOW! Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #3
Fuck, I have to find a link for that davidpdx Nov 2014 #10
Here ya go... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #12
Thanks just found it on the site davidpdx Nov 2014 #13
I clicked on the link and waiting for the interminable download I started crim son Nov 2014 #4
+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #15
What a farce. McCulloch is disgusting. nt SunSeeker Nov 2014 #6
So McCulloch blames the media and the Internet for the unrest Jack Rabbit Nov 2014 #8
I blame McCulloch. What an absolutely disgusting piece of shit. - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #22
Can't watch that one Bragi Nov 2014 #27
"Social media isn't the problem," author Maureen Johnson said. "Shooting children is the problem."nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 #9
It seems that he is blaiming social media and the news media davidpdx Nov 2014 #11
He is blaming the violence on social and news media...which have been playing that up, undeniably. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #18
K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #26

Treant

(1,968 posts)
1. Tend to Agree
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:07 AM
Nov 2014

Whilst listening to it, I kept wondering why the constant smear campaign against witnesses. It's almost like...like he was trying to assure there would be an explosion.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. "I kept wondering why the constant smear campaign against witnesses"
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:09 AM
Nov 2014

I thought he was explaining why some who claimed they saw something really didn't, or changed their stories. Thus the claims Brown was shot while standing still with his hands up were false.

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
5. witnesses
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:30 AM
Nov 2014

it was not a smear campaign at all , neither was his press conference " bizarre" . He laid out the case clearly and understandably .
Witnesses cannot always be relied on , and they contradict themselves in follow-up interviews , which might question their veracity .

Of course , if you you are biased in your opinions before all the evidence is presented , then you will feel justice has not been done correctly , meaning , not to your liking . True justice tries to be as impartial as possible . Justice is based on facts , not opinion .

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
7. "He laid out the case clearly and understandably."
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:34 AM
Nov 2014

That's what I thought. Plus all the evidence presented to the Grand Jury is being made public.

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
17. What he presented were defense closing arguments
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:02 AM
Nov 2014

This was not a prosecutor speaking, but a defense attorney for Darren Wilson. If this is a sample of what he presented to the Grand Jury, no wonder there was no indictment.

In 28 years of law enforcement, I had exactly one cast presented to a Grand Jury which found no true bill, among hundreds of other cases that were indicted. The one No True Bill I got was a complicated financial case and I failed to get them to understand it. My bad.

This case was botched from the beginning, and probably botched deliberately.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
20. I would dearly love for you to create a thread in General Discussion
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:15 AM
Nov 2014

detailing your experiences and contrasting them with the sorry record in this case.

I think almost everyone on DU would profit from the discussion and I know I would.

Hat tip!

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
21. I have one question for the prosecutor
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:33 AM
Nov 2014

Exactly how far was Darren Wilson from Michael Brown when the fatal shot was fired.

He didn't state it, and none of the reporters asked it. If it was anything over about ten feet, the guy should have been indicted. If it was more than that, how in the hell was Wilson "threatened". If he wasn't threatened, all the conflicting witness statements are totally irrelevant to getting an indictment.

This case is complicated because the cops and prosecutor made it sound complicated.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
23. Exactly ...
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:03 AM
Nov 2014
This case is complicated because the cops and prosecutor made it sound complicated.


Which is the exact opposite strategy for any prosecutor ... seeking an indictment.

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
25. I was Federal, we never had a 21 foot rule
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:38 PM
Nov 2014

there was no exact rule, but you had to be physically threatened. Without a weapon, there isn't much a guy can do from more than ten feet. No shenanigans, but different places have different thresholds. And WAS he more than your magic 21 feet away?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
3. WOW!
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:10 AM
Nov 2014
CNN legal expert Jeffrey Toobin called the press conference "an extended whine" and "entirely inappropriate and embarrassing."


You could have made a drinking game out of the number of times he came off like Michael Brown was the one on trial.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
4. I clicked on the link and waiting for the interminable download I started
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:10 AM
Nov 2014

to feel sick to my stomach. There are a few good people here who trust the system and will find themselves relieved at the outcome. The rest of us understand what this means, and we brace ourselves.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
27. Can't watch that one
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 08:56 PM
Nov 2014

That sounds too outrageous to view, but I agree with you anyway. I'm hitting the point where I want way fewer news conferences by multitudes of CopState Talking Heads telling "the community" to be calm, that peaceful ways are best, la-la-la. By design, and visually, they villainize the protestors. I'm seeing all manner of video on cable news depicting cars and businesses burning, even though nothing of the sort is happening right now. So people watching now will figure the police riot that I expect will happen later tonight is justified by last night's violence.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
11. It seems that he is blaiming social media and the news media
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 04:06 AM
Nov 2014

and that all the witnesses that said that Brown was the victim were lying. That a fucking douchebag.

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