U.S. Teacher Fatally Stabbed in Abu Dhabi Shopping Mall
Source: NBC News
An American teacher who is the mother of twins was stabbed to death in the bathroom of an Abu Dhabi shopping mall, police said Wednesday. The 37-year-old woman reportedly was attacked "with a sharp tool" following a fight in the public restroom on Monday, with witnesses saying the suspect was cloaked in a traditional black robe, gloves and face cover, police said. The attack comes just weeks after the U.S. embassy in Abu Dhabi warned citizens of an anonymous posting on a jihadist website encouraging attacks against teachers at American schools in the Middle East.
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Is it me or is that veiled woman quite masculine?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)was very common in Afghanistan when I was there, and I'm sure still is. This seems like the same tactic.
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)bigworld
(1,807 posts)And wearing gloves? That's not a common thing in the UAE at all.
The suspect certainly seems to be on a mission when (s)he enters the building.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)zazen
(2,978 posts)I wouldn't think even those woman-hating fundamentalist thugs would risk polluting themselves by dressing as a woman, even if it's to murder someone as evil and globally dangerous as a 37-year-old teacher and mother of two.
Johnyawl
(3,205 posts)...so once you've made the decision to kill an innocent, why would you be concerned about how you were dressed or where you attacked her?
Religious fanatics can always find a scriptural justification for their hatred and evil.
zazen
(2,978 posts)So killing an innocent is nothing to them, but soiling themselves by dressing as a woman and going into a room where, God Forbid, a woman might be menstruating, seems like too big a price for them to pay. I'd expect them to blow themselves up or something rather than dress in drag. They might lose the 72 virgins or something.
They could find a scriptural justification--I'd just think their culture of obsessive female-hating would mitigate this choice of strategy. It hits too close to home, psychologically speaking.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)are either psychopaths and/or traumatized individuals. Logic and religion has little to do with it.
I stumbled across an extremist group on Facebook and followed it for several months and never saw any mention of 72 virgins. The foot soldiers are mostly ignorant young men who know little about history, religion or culture. They are just aggressive idiots.
Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)See my response to post #1, above.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)More from OP link:
"The injured woman was immediately rushed to Sheikh Khalifa Medical City where she succumbed to the wounds she sustained in the attack," Abu Dhabi police said in a statement, adding that the suspect had immediately fled the scene after the attack. Police said an investigation is underway into the cause of the fight and the suspect's motive, identity and gender.
Col. Dr. Rashid Mohammad Borshid, head of Abu Dhabi's Criminal Investigation Department said that police are now caring for the victim's twins.
In a surveillance video released by Abu Dhabi police, the suspect is shown exiting an elevator and appearing to have a quick interaction with a mall security officer before grabbing a newspaper and heading into the bathroom.
According to the timestamp on the video, the suspect hustles out of the bathroom around 90 minutes later and heads straight for the elevator as bystanders scatter. At the elevator door, a female bystander apparently tries to stop the suspect but quickly retreats. The suspect then dashes into the elevator and other bystanders soon rush after.
Police said they have not determined the gender of the assailant.
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CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)The oil-rich financiers of extremism let this evil genie out of the bottle, now it may make their own countries no go zones for westerners.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Let them have them in countries that refuse to come to the 21st century but the West and Asia should not allow them to be worn in public.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)so seeing a woman wearing a hijab is nothing. You don't even notice it.
However, seeing a woman in a burka or niqab always freaks me out. Especially when it is 103 degrees outside and as humid as a sauna! arrggghhhh
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)So your solution to women being "forced" to wear these garments (do you have no idea that many Muslim women CHOOSE to wear this style of clothing?) is to force them NOT to wear them? Good luck with the cognitive dissonance. Freedom!
On edit: Do we need to ban the wearing of balaclavas, sunglasses, and Halloween masks as well or is it just concealing religious clothing you would like to make illegal?
alp227
(32,047 posts)Ski masks should be for skiing not going out.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)For example, it is ok to drive drunk on your own ranch or estate and if you hit a tree, that is your problem.
However, it is not ok to drive drunk on public roads because you reduce other people's security.
And yes, that would apply to ski-masks and Halloween masks (used by adults) as well - not just burkhas. However, small children wearing Halloween masks are extremely unlikely to be a security threat.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)You should have said "little people."
snooper2
(30,151 posts)You need to have your own picture at least 2'x2' on the front and back-
We will have random sheet checkers confirm that your face matches your sheet picture.
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)and yes, honest question. thanks.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)it just seems out-of-place...Even if the killer is a woman, I'd speculate it was a non-Muslim woman -- There's just too much purpose and intent with the movement as opposed to someone who knows how to 'play the role'
And of course it's not like this hasn't been done before:
Divernan
(15,480 posts)"Police said an investigation is underway into the cause of the fight and the suspect's motive, identity and gender." (from the OP link). I know a number of women as large as the individual in the video. None of them are able to move that fast and smoothly. The swathed figure seemed very powerful.
On researching this, I found that women wearing burqas do wear gloves, but I think the gloves in this instance also served to disguise masculine hands.
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)I know several quite large female dancers, able to move fast and smoothly.
I was hoping something like a beard showed.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)Most of us don't pay any attention to it because we grow up seeing it, but there are actually recognizable differences in the walking gait of men and women. It has to do with a slight difference in hip angle, the relative width of the hips in relation to the torso changing the femur angle slightly (women have slightly wider hips to accommodate childbirth), and the presence or lack of testicles.
When normalized for physical size and bone length, the result is that men generally take long strides with wider step patterns, while the hips remain relatively still. Women tend to take shorter strides with a much narrower step pattern, and with more hip oscillation. This allows many people to subconsciously recognize gender even without seeing the body...or even from footprints alone. The differences are distinct enough that there are computer programs that can almost instantly determine gender based off of movement alone. It's not foolproof, but the difference is real.
That said, it's not a skill I personally possess. I can't tell the gender of the person in the video. There are certainly people who can, though.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and will probably nip it in the bud posthaste...
The UAE has taken EXTREME measures and spent years building up their image as being a safe, modern, tech-savvy, semi-enlightened environment for big-money tourists, investors, corporate partnerships, etc. from Western/Asian nations...
Eugene
(61,938 posts)Source: Reuters
ABU DHABI Thu Dec 4, 2014 7:50am EST
(Reuters) - United Arab Emirates (UAE) police have arrested a woman suspected of killing of an American teacher found stabbed to death in a ladies' toilet at an Abu Dhabi shopping mall, police said on Thursday.
(Reporting by Matt Smith and Noah Browning, Writing by William Maclean)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/04/us-emirates-usa-murder-idUSKCN0JI19N20141204
bigworld
(1,807 posts)That is a pretty substantial house.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/woman-held-abu-dhabi-killing-american-teacher-ibolya-ryan-n261356
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)She didn't act alone.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)The UAE isn't about to let a bunch of extremists fuck around with commerce...
muriel_volestrangler
(101,354 posts)The suspect was identified as Dalal al Hashemi, a 38 year-old UAE citizen of Yemeni origin, police said. She was arrested today in connection with the teacher's murder and is also accused of planting a bomb in front of an Egyptian-American doctor's home.
Police said they do not believe Hashemi, 38, was a so-called "lone wolf". Authorities told ABC News that other people were arrested at Hashemi's house, but their connection to the attack was not yet known.
Her home was described as a "base of operations," but it was not clear what groups if any - she may have been connected to.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/abu-dhabi-arrests-suspect-stabbing-american-teacher/story?id=27359238