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avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:59 PM Apr 2012

Texas Christian school fires unwed pregnant teacher

Source: Raw Story

A Christian school in Texas has fired an unmarried science teacher because it claimed she was not a good “Christian role model” — even after she offered to get married.

Cathy Samford, who is now 39 weeks pregnant, told ABC News that she was “totally shocked” when Heritage Christian Academy in Rockwall, Texas fired her from her job as a science teacher and volleyball coach after they discovered she was pregnant late last year.

“I’m not just some teacher that went out to a bar and got pregnant and went back to school saying it’s okay,” Samford explained. “I was in a committed relationship the whole time and probably would have been married if things had gone differently and this would be a non-situation.”

“I didn’t think I would lose my job,” she said. “I was in shock and devastated and that’s when I said, ‘If this is the problem, I’m willing, and so is my fiancé, to go ahead and get married.’ That wasn’t the issue. We were going to get married regardless.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/12/texas-christian-school-fires-unwed-pregnant-teacher/



Where is the support for the "right to life" in this instance from the so called "right to life" community?

...Another example of Christian leadership not following their own tenets.
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Texas Christian school fires unwed pregnant teacher (Original Post) avaistheone1 Apr 2012 OP
This is where I live. And this is not surprising Ishoutandscream2 Apr 2012 #1
probably in the fine print somewhere to follow what they determine are "good Christian values" Roland99 Apr 2012 #2
Interesting... MrBig Apr 2012 #3
If she had gotten an abortion? Then what? LiberalFighter Apr 2012 #4
Do they fire male teachers who get their girlfriends preggers? yellowcanine Apr 2012 #5
good question yellowcanine, that is what always goes through my mind too. IcyPeas Apr 2012 #11
+infinity Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #13
Ha! Ha! Hahahahahahahaha! (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2012 #33
"totally shcoked" that fundamentalists act like assholes? Really? nt Speck Tater Apr 2012 #6
My thoughts exactly. nt sybylla Apr 2012 #10
"totally shocked" AlbertCat Apr 2012 #14
??? Bar pregnancy?? wendylaroux Apr 2012 #7
And there you go. Iris Apr 2012 #27
And, unfortunately ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #8
Pro-Life LIES!!! Pro-WAR political whores!!! "Let them die" without-health-care-&-without-vote Repug patrice Apr 2012 #9
And yet Christians like this were and are perfectly fine with Sarah Palin's daughter fasttense Apr 2012 #12
Yep... FloriTexan Apr 2012 #22
exactly thank you lunasun Apr 2012 #34
Way to be Christian Botany Apr 2012 #15
well that argument won't help PatrynXX Apr 2012 #20
it's still out of wedlock PatrynXX Apr 2012 #16
Posted in Texas forum FloriTexan Apr 2012 #17
How can they be sure it wasn't an immaculate conception? yellowcanine Apr 2012 #18
She should consider herself lucky she's only losing her job! Clouseau2 Apr 2012 #19
and shortly thereafter they would all be facing murder charges! Liber-AL Apr 2012 #28
Text book case KT2000 Apr 2012 #21
Moral Turpitude clause... AnneD Apr 2012 #23
It's odd nobody's pointed that out before. Igel Apr 2012 #31
It's not like half of the female students there EC Apr 2012 #24
I can't believe she's so naive as SheilaT Apr 2012 #25
Thank you! PassingFair Apr 2012 #38
I feel sorry for those kids too. Hoyt Apr 2012 #26
Shouldn't that headline read: Texas Anti-christian School..... Dont call me Shirley Apr 2012 #29
Nope... because... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #32
Fired for being pro-life. freshwest Apr 2012 #30
WWJD? tabasco Apr 2012 #35
Has anyone considered the possibility... brooklynite Apr 2012 #36
That sounds like the more likely scenario jenwilson Apr 2012 #39
Shocking! Christians kicking pregnant women to the curb? blackspade Apr 2012 #37
This is what happens to workers SydBAThule Apr 2012 #40
How christian of them... truebrit71 Apr 2012 #41
Catholic schools in NOLA Sgent Apr 2012 #42
It's another example of the 'War on Women' !!! n/t Tx4obama Apr 2012 #43

Ishoutandscream2

(6,663 posts)
1. This is where I live. And this is not surprising
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:01 PM
Apr 2012

I always say this is the most conservative county in Texas, and perhaps in the nation as well. This is not surprising at all.

MrBig

(640 posts)
3. Interesting...
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:03 PM
Apr 2012

If she'd gotten an abortion, the school would have been none the wiser and she'd still have a job.

I wonder if the school realizes that they are, in a sense, promoting abortion through their employment practices.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
14. "totally shocked"
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:36 PM
Apr 2012

Well.. she doesn't seem too bright for a science teacher.... I mean if she's totally shocked.


I wonder if she teaches evolution too!

Iris

(15,669 posts)
27. And there you go.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:08 PM
Apr 2012

What a hypocrite. If people want to live a fundamentally Christian life that has to justify pregnancy in this way, then they should expect to pay the consequences. It's just another case of being all for a strict code of morality except when it comes to oneself.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
8. And, unfortunately ...
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:10 PM
Apr 2012

A recent SCOTUS says that religious institutions (including schools) can fire it's employees, even if in direct conflict with federal civil rights laws.

Time for religious institutions to pay taxes or be completely barred from receiving ANY public money.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
9. Pro-Life LIES!!! Pro-WAR political whores!!! "Let them die" without-health-care-&-without-vote Repug
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:16 PM
Apr 2012

lycants!

NO KINGS!!!!!!

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
12. And yet Christians like this were and are perfectly fine with Sarah Palin's daughter
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:33 PM
Apr 2012

having a kid out of wedlock. What kind of role model would the Palin family be if Sarah had become VP?

FloriTexan

(838 posts)
22. Yep...
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:21 PM
Apr 2012

One of my neighbors works at this school and they have no shortage of mccain/palin stickers on their vehicles.

Botany

(70,585 posts)
15. Way to be Christian
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:40 PM
Apr 2012

Jesus was born to an unwed mother w/ Joe playing the role of dad ....
Jesus also stopped the stoning of a prostitute w/ "He that is without sin
among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

I AM SICK TO DEATH OF THESE UNAMERICAN FUCKTARDS WHO THINK THEY
ARE GOD'S VOICE ON EARTH BEING NASTY BULLIES TO OTHER PEOPLE.

MAYBE SHE SHOULD HAVE JUST HAD AN ABORTION TO KEEP THINGS COOL.


Assholes!

BTW is it roll or role and when do I use site or sight Botany =

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
20. well that argument won't help
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:17 PM
Apr 2012



certainly not assholes either. there is this thing called seperation of church and state. hope it stays that way.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
16. it's still out of wedlock
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:42 PM
Apr 2012

don't forget Michael English got panned for having a kid out of wedlock. was barred from doing so called Christian music. course real Christian music, usually involves the singer making little money

so whether one intends to get married or not, the out of wedlock thing is what did it. She would have known this. Don't work for a Christian school, unless you do things by the book. That being said. I disagree with this one. As the out of wedlock thing is out of date.

Mistakes happen. Explain this to Bristol Palin... and she's not trying to get married. But I'm guessing many folks at that school just adore Bristol anyway.

Clouseau2

(60 posts)
19. She should consider herself lucky she's only losing her job!
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:04 PM
Apr 2012

If her employer's actually followed the bible, she would be stoned to death!

 

Liber-AL

(71 posts)
28. and shortly thereafter they would all be facing murder charges!
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:26 PM
Apr 2012

And singing "Kume by ya" wouldn't hep a bit!

KT2000

(20,588 posts)
21. Text book case
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:18 PM
Apr 2012

The anti-abortion crowd has turned unmarried women who choose to give birth into martyrs for their cause. Unfortunately, the women do not realize that it is these same people who will condemn them for getting pregnant in the first place. Cut healthcare for the mother and babies, fire the "witches," cut food programs for the babies etc.
Disgusting.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
23. Moral Turpitude clause...
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:24 PM
Apr 2012

it is still in most teacher's contracts in Texas, even public schools. A holdover from the days when teacher's were either unmarried or spinsters.

Edited to add...and yes, you can get fired for moral turpitude, even in a public school, let alone a fundi school.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
31. It's odd nobody's pointed that out before.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:45 PM
Apr 2012

Teachers get fired for a lot of reasons. Many of them involving perfectly legal behavior.

Get drunk and post the pictures on Facebook so your kids can see them.

Sexist comments might get you in hot water. Racist--or even things that might appear racist--will get you canned.

Heck, I suspect that if a teacher started some sort of notorious personal ministry site, pushing some religion in a way that might be deemed to be targeting students, he'd lose his contract.

"Moral turpitude" is very much in the eye of the principal and school board.

EC

(12,287 posts)
24. It's not like half of the female students there
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 04:08 PM
Apr 2012

wouldn't end up the same way, with just abstinence as sex education. It's usually the Christian school's girls around here that turn up as teen-age mothers.


On edit: I wonder how many of those that decided to fire her applauded Palin's kid's decision to keep her baby?

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
25. I can't believe she's so naive as
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 04:16 PM
Apr 2012

to think being an unwed mother would in any way be less than openly welcome by the Christian school. It's not exactly breaking news that they would oppose illegitimate children. And the nonsense about being in a committed relationship and probably would have been married simply shows her own level of hypocrisy. I would love to hear exactly why she and her fiance couldn't manage to get married before she got pregnant.

While I personally have no problem with people living together, and although I also think it's really a much better idea to get married before having a baby, in this case she should have had some better sense of what teaching at a Christian school is all about.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
29. Shouldn't that headline read: Texas Anti-christian School.....
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:21 PM
Apr 2012

The Texas Anti-Christ school is the one setting the bad example by not following the teachings of Jesus. Jesus was loving, compassionate and accepting of all.

 

Joseph8th

(228 posts)
32. Nope... because...
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:49 PM
Apr 2012

... that's just the "real Christians" argument. Since belief is all subjective (read: all in your head), there is no such thing as a "real Christian." It's just whoever calls themselves that, is that. That's why all the centuries of various inter-Christian wars, and why the 1st Amendment.

 

jenwilson

(47 posts)
39. That sounds like the more likely scenario
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:52 AM
Apr 2012

They're against math and science. She probably taught some geometry or some other type of "devil tricks' to the kids

 

SydBAThule

(25 posts)
40. This is what happens to workers
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 04:42 AM
Apr 2012

Who are not members of a strong union.

People need to take heed else they will be next.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
42. Catholic schools in NOLA
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 04:40 PM
Apr 2012

prohibit sex outside of marriage for their teachers.

They also require that any Catholic teacher be married by a priest in a Catholic ceremony.

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