FOX News does not understand complaint lodged by Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo

[Surya Gayatri]

Source: LE FIGARO

The American news channel deems "inappropriate" the reaction of the mayor of Paris who announced her intention to file a complaint against them.

The chapter is far from over. Following the false information relayed by Fox News on the French Muslim population, Anne Hidalgo announced Tuesday her intention to file a complaint against the American news channel. Multiple public apologies by Fox News were not enough.

Judging "insulting" and "prejudicial" the false image of the capital carried by the American news channel, the mayor of Paris was claiming compensation today. But, this reaction seems to stick somewhat in the craw of the managers of Fox News.

When asked by The Hollywood Reporter, Michael Clemente, vice president of the chain, reacted to Anne Hidalgo: "We empathize with all French citizens as they pass through a long healing process and attempt to return to a normal life. However, we find the mayor's intention to sue us to be misplaced."



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Oh, this is getting good! Delicious even!
Paris will not let this insult drop.

FOX can "apologize" all they want, but Anne Hidalgo will not be assuaged.
I hope to see FOX's sorry ass hauled up in front of the French courts before long.

[hobbit709]

1. Fox News does not understand-period.

[valerief]

2. Can the people of America file a complaint against Fox News for misrepresenting us?

They make us all seem like morons when, in fact, only their limited aging audience are the morons.

[DetlefK]

3. Nope. A court said that TV is allowed to lie to you.

http://www.projectcensored.org/11-the-media-can-legally-lie/

[valerief]

6. Arrgh, I guess there's no such thing as libel anymore on TV.

[PatrynXX]

14. but in france that law still stands

one would think after the Death of Diana Fox woulda figured that one out smh.. ie free speech with responsibility. They keep this up and France might ban Fox gossip from being in the country

[JDPriestly]

32. Yes. But is it allowed to libel a product?

Paris is a product. Paris is a tourist industry.

I'm skeptical, but I think this is great fun!

Fox over-did it and may have met a match.

I don't know who would win a lawsuit. But Fox is going to be thoroughly embarrassed by this. And the mayor of Paris is going to turn a lie into a big upswing in its tourism industry. That's what I predict.

[Surya Gayatri]

8. Class action of millions+ vs. FOX? But, but, "Freedom of the Press", don't cha know?

[rurallib]

4. putting out false info like that could really hurt Paris' tourism

Hope she sues in a French court and FUX gets burned good.
Could cost Paris billions and could hurt specific areas badly.

[Surya Gayatri]

5. Looks to be heading for a real face-off in court!

Vive la France !

[rurallib]

7. Will it be in France? Can Murdoch buy judges over there?

[Surya Gayatri]

10. Good question...more likely in some American venue, as the offensive segment

was broadcast there and not in Euorpe.

[jeff47]

18. Doesn't matter where it was broadcast.

Whether or not a lawsuit can happen depends on the laws where the lawsuit is brought. French law and US law have a hell of a lot of differences, and I'm not an expert in either.

Even under US law, the lawsuit is brought where the harm occurred, not where the statement was made. For example, the libel case that Jessie Ventura just won was brought in MN, despite the book being written in TX.

[Surya Gayatri]

21. Update: "For now, Paris city hall stated that it did not yet know if the complaint would be filed

in a French court, American or "both." (Le Figaro)

Pour le moment, la mairie de Paris a fait savoir qu'elle ignorait encore si la plainte serait déposée dans une juridiction française, américaine ou «dans les deux.»

[karynnj]

9. The utter arrogance of the VP's claim to "emphasize" with the French is stunning and not relevent

The problem is that his network, for its own political reasons, dishonestly defamed our ally' Ironically, the same ally that they spent a week complaining that President Obama inadequately supported. In fact, Obama, from the moment of the attack focused whatever US resources could help to aid the French. They then attacked our Secretary of State for going to Paris, laying wreaths and then speaking in French to the country.

Meanwhile - on Fox -- at a point where the French came together in wonderful rallies across the country, a ridiculous story was propagated - to all their talking heads - as only the right wing can do. That story was both negative and harmful. It is not hard to believe that it could make viewers less likely to feel it safe to visit Paris. (This would be more true if more Fox viewers ever traveled overseas!)

Given that the word was that Fox apologized because Murdock was embarrassed by the obviously untrue story -- I wonder if the mayor's actions can make him EVEN MORE uncomfortable.

[Surya Gayatri]

13. Astonishing arrogance and hubris--"we apologize if anyone was offended"...

their classic smug and disdainful non-apology being passed off as "empathy".

[karynnj]

16. True -- that is not even a real apology

The problem is that what they really did wrong was to put on something they had every reason to question and to then echo it through their entire group of shows. That repetition is what, in the minds of the people who watch FOX, lends credibility.

This has always been the reason fighting the right wing echo chamber has been so completely frustrating and difficult. Years ago, if you read something that seemed questionable, you looked to see if other sources were reporting it. Here, between their hate radio and Fox, many people hearing this from "everybody" -- then believe it. Worse, they then discredit the sane media by arguing that the mainstream media hides all this. The sad thing is that they have won over so many Americans.

[Surya Gayatri]

19. "fighting the right wing echo chamber has been so completely frustrating and difficult..."

Multi-headed hydra...

[Fred Sanders]

11. I would like to sue the rest of the American media for not reporting on the lies of Fox.

Sure they can lie legally, apparently, but did it come with a right for the lies not to be reported on by other media?

[mountain grammy]

12. Me too!

[Turbineguy]

15. I don't suppose they would.

When you've been falsifying news for nearly 20 years this would come as a surprise.

[Surya Gayatri]

17. Say what? We get away with this kind of crap

daily in the US! What's with the "manufactured" outrage? Huh?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

31. Next up on FOX: How the French have gone Commie....

Why, they don't even have a word for "entrepreneur".

[libdem4life]

20. Let it last a bit longer at least than the effort to get Bush, Cheney et al for murder.

I was living in Paris when the brouhahah (sp?) over the Concorde was raging. Watched the first commercial flight (as I recall) to New York take off...the thrust almost knocked us down and we were inside the airport perimeter.

It was a coincidence as we were at deGaulle returning to New York and when we discovered it was departing, were willing to pony up the extra to fly, but they only had one seat left. Sigh.

Good luck to Mme. Hidalgo. A Pox on Fox.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/26/newsid_2539000/2539049.stm

[Surya Gayatri]

22. Concorde's technology is out-moded, but sad that such

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a beautiful bird had to stop flying...

[libdem4life]

24. Yes, the fuel timing was bad, and I also think there was a lot of resentment that the French

could accomplish something before an American. That was the public feeling in France.

[Surya Gayatri]

25. Yes, American sour-grapes was in part to blame for

Concorde's lack of acceptance in the States...

[Gothmog]

23. That becauase the complaint is based on facts and the truth

Fox News does not believe in facts or the truth

[Surya Gayatri]

27. Whaaa? Not 'fair and balanced'? Break it gently to their

enthralled viewership!

[SwankyXomb]

26. Sue them in England

Much easier to win there, and lots of Murdoch assets to seize.

[Surya Gayatri]

28. I'm sure Mayor Hidalgo's phalanx of lawyers are

examining all possible courses of legal action, as we speak...

[mwooldri]

33. Plus I believe "Fox News Channel" holds its broadcast license in London.

Now I'm sure OfCom (sort of UK equivalent of FCC but with a few more teeth) would take a complaint but would basically say "Yes, this broadcaster said a few lies on air, and they apologised for them, and since it's a satellite broadcaster we can't do much other than say they've been naughty."

I'm not sure how libel law works in France, but I think it would be hard to prove that this would have any standing in an English court of law.

[underpants]

29. Fox Corp already sued and won the right to lie on the news

They operate us such a bubble they don't understand that they COULD do anything wrong.

[Surya Gayatri]

30. And, the fact that Michael Clemente showed himself to be a complete

and totally arrogant asshat, I'm sure did not occur to him.

[blackcrow]

34. Fox News? You mean Fox, don't you?

[Surya Gayatri]

38. Foxy, crazy like a Fox, more like...

[libdem4life]

35. Also, there is no English word for "guillotine". :) n/t

[Surya Gayatri]

39. It's a verb in French, "guillotiner"--regular 'er' verb! n/t

[libdem4life]

45. Also there is no English word for Gayatri...love the many internet versions of it. n/t

[Surya Gayatri]

48. Ah, therein lies a tale--so many spiritual words and

concepts have no equivalent in other Indo-European languages and so are retained in the original Sanskrit and Pali. 'Surya' means sun as a spiritual concept, as you probably discovered. Gayatri is the 'mother' of the Vedas, mankind's most ancient extant sacred texts.

Here's just one link (among thousands on YT) to one form of the Gayatri being chanted. Very powerful.

&list=RDD58pigO5Dig

Om Sai Eeshwaraya Veedmahe
Sathya Devaya Dhimahi
Tanna Sarva Prachodayat

We meditate on the form of light,
Illumine our intellect and reveal the truth,
Lead us to the release
Of enlightenment.

[Dr. Xavier]

36. Someone tried telling me about Muslim 'no-go' zones so

I asked, 'doesn't that describe American Sun-Down towns?"

They had no response.

[Surya Gayatri]

40. Humm, embarrassed, but I don't know the meaning...

I'm extrapolating to "not safe after sundown"?

[NuttyFluffers]

50. reference to Post-Reconstruction USA phenomena of racist, "purified" white enclaves after dark.

There is a whole book about the subject, called Sundown Towns. Basically white racists, in their campaign of sanctioned terrorism after the abolition of slavery, created enclaves where to be anybody but white after dark was license to be murdered without recourse. They were often flagged with names incorporating the word "white" or associated things within the town name. Some even explicitly posted up signs of the casual community threat of murder to ensure no unwelcome traveler lingered longer than the time it took to get dark.

See, unlike the phantasms America complains about elsewhere, we Americans have already practiced in our own history a legacy of galling hatred for generations. The accusation of no-go zones is such a succinct call to our own homegrown racists' projection as to be guilt by confession. The idea taps in viscerally into the historical racist fear of having what has been done by them to return upon them.

[Surya Gayatri]

51. Many thanks for the brief history lesson!

The underbelly of "America the Beautiful" that so many refuse to acknowledge.

"The accusation of no-go zones is such a succinct call to our own homegrown racists' projection as to be guilt by confession."

Well said!

[sammy750]

37. Fox News has been sued by Americans, but the courts have

ruled in Fox News favor, using the first amendment, as freedom of speech. In fact the court indicated they could LIE and give out false information. So this Paris suit will be interesting.

[Surya Gayatri]

41. Uh huh, can't wait...

[lark]

42. Hmm, looks like lies don't play as well in Paris as they do in Washington.

I can see why Faux would be confused by this. They think everyone should just accept their lies as truth and move on and fail to understand why this woman won't fall in line.

[Surya Gayatri]

43. Yes, the editorial board (Ailes et al.) must be perplexed.

Say what? We get away with this crap daily in the US. Whaa happen?

[lark]

44. It's a headscratcher

to them.

[Politicalboi]

46. Not only does it hurt tourism

It puts Muslims in a bad light.

[Surya Gayatri]

49. Yes, this is a 'bread & butter' issue to the city besides

being an insult to Parisian pride.

47 million tourists visit this city every year--with hundreds of thousands employed in the related industries. Most visited city in the world.

[Sunlei]

47. fox lies doesn't 'understand' how they hurt the American people either!

Wish we could boot fox out of the USA.
Our country would be much better off without republican extremist, 24/7 TV.