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FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 03:49 PM Jan 2015

AirAsia 8501 Stall Warnings 'Screaming' Before Crash: Reports

Source: NBC

Warning alarms can be heard "screaming" on the cockpit voice recorder of AirAsia Flight 8501 before it crashed, an investigator was quoted as saying Wednesday.

Among the audible alerts is one that indicated the plane is stalling, the investigator told Agence France-Presse (AFP) and the Wall Street Journal. NBC News was immediately unable to confirm the accounts.

The reports come a day after Indonesia's transport minister said the Airbus A320, which crashed last month with 162 people on board, was climbing at an abnormally high rate before it plunged and disappeared from radar.

"The warning [alarms] kept on screaming, and in the background, they [the pilot and co-pilot] were trying to recover the plane," the unidentified investigator told the WSJ. "But what they said wasn't clear." He added that the flight data recorder also indicated that stall warnings were going off.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/airasia-plane-crash/airasia-8501-stall-warnings-screaming-crash-reports-n290251



This is looking more and more like pilot confustion/disorientation and/or instrument/computer failure.
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AirAsia 8501 Stall Warnings 'Screaming' Before Crash: Reports (Original Post) FLPanhandle Jan 2015 OP
I found this article very informative about the concept of pilot error. Brickbat Jan 2015 #1
Coming right after a 6,000 fpm climb rate GliderGuider Jan 2015 #2
What does a pilot do in that case? The Stranger Jan 2015 #3
Depends on whether the pilot had conflicting information jberryhill Jan 2015 #5
Pilots are trained on stall and upset recovery... Blue_Tires Jan 2015 #9
Sounds similar to the AirFrance crash in 2009 One_Life_To_Give Jan 2015 #4
That was my first thought FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #6
I'm always relieved when the plane I fly on is a Boeing. n/t cigsandcoffee Jan 2015 #7
Like MH370? /nt jakeXT Jan 2015 #8
 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
2. Coming right after a 6,000 fpm climb rate
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 04:03 PM
Jan 2015

it sounds a lot like weather-induced loss of control to me. What was the max altitude they reached? If they were in air that was too thin, a stall recovery might not have been possible.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
9. Pilots are trained on stall and upset recovery...
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 05:38 PM
Jan 2015

But real life is a lot different than the simulator, and sometimes panic can set in

Generally you try to point the nose down to pick up some speed and regain authority of the control surfaces...

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
4. Sounds similar to the AirFrance crash in 2009
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 04:08 PM
Jan 2015

AirFrance Flight 447 crash was earily similar. In that case it was reportedly Ice Crystals in the AirSpeed Pitot tube.

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