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Omaha Steve

(99,733 posts)
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:39 AM Jan 2015

Gun maker gets Newtown lawsuit moved to federal court

Source: AP-Excite

By PAT EATON-ROBB

HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — Gun maker Remington has moved a lawsuit filed against it by families of those shot in the Sandy Hook school massacre from state to federal court, where at least one expert says it has less chance of succeeding.

Nine families sued Remington and others in Bridgeport Superior Court in December arguing the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle used in the shooting should not have been sold for civilian use because of its overwhelming firepower. A 10th family joined the lawsuit adding a wrongful death claim.

The case was placed before U.S. District Judge Robert Chatigny last week after Remington argued that since they are located in North Carolina and not Connecticut, federal court was a more proper jurisdiction.

Timothy Lytton, a professor at the Albany Law School who has written extensively about suing the gun industry, said getting the case into the 2nd U.S. Circuit, of which Connecticut is a part, is a victory for the defendants.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20150122/us--newtown_school_shooting-4b59d0aae0.html

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Gun maker gets Newtown lawsuit moved to federal court (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2015 OP
Unless they can prove Remington broke a law I dont hold out hope of the families winning and cstanleytech Jan 2015 #1
It is a weak case to begin with that just got dealt a major blow Lurks Often Jan 2015 #2
The dealer is a much better legal target here, IMO (nt) Recursion Jan 2015 #3
The problem with that Shamash Jan 2015 #4
See the "Ring of Fire" prosecutions from 20 years ago Recursion Jan 2015 #5
find out sweetapogee Jan 2015 #8
What if the dealer followed every state and federal law? hack89 Jan 2015 #6
Infractions can be manufactured if they do not exist Recursion Jan 2015 #7

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
1. Unless they can prove Remington broke a law I dont hold out hope of the families winning and
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jan 2015

I doubt Remington will settle either because that would just make them a target for similar lawsuits.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
2. It is a weak case to begin with that just got dealt a major blow
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jan 2015

From the link: "The 2nd Circuit has previously refused to hold gun manufacturers liable or permit lawsuits against gun manufacturers for injuries caused by third parties," he said. "It has a history of knocking these types of cases down."

I only hope the lawyers are footing the bill for the case and not the families.

 

Shamash

(597 posts)
4. The problem with that
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 01:24 PM
Jan 2015

is that implies that if a murderer steals a weapon from someone who followed all local, state and federal laws to acquire it, that the dealer who likewise followed those laws when selling it is somehow liable for its misuse.

It would be like suing a Ford dealer if someone carjacked an Explorer and then deliberately ran it into a crowd. Or for that matter, suing Wal-Mart (or wherever) for selling box cutters to the 9/11 hijackers.

Regardless of one's opinions on guns, the law is meant to be a shield for those who follow it. Trying to make a case that someone is civilly liable for obeying the law is going to be an uphill battle.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. See the "Ring of Fire" prosecutions from 20 years ago
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 01:28 PM
Jan 2015

There is precedent for this. (Now, whether it applies to Newtown, I have no idea.)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. Infractions can be manufactured if they do not exist
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jan 2015
(sorry, that's sarcasm, if it's not clear.)

The FFL is where the rubber meets the road legally, and so it's where the shit also needs to hit the fan, if you'll pardon a mixing of metaphors.

I honestly doubt any suit from Newtown could get much progress, but in general I'm inclined to pressure dealers more than manufacturers. And I imagine the dealer might take a settlement that would make other dealers more cautious about selling, which I'm for.
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