Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah dies
Source: BBC
Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz has died in hospital, state TV says.
The announcement, made early on Friday, said his brother, Salman, had become king.
Before the announcement, Saudi television cut to Koranic verses, which often signifies the death of a senior royal.
King Abdullah, who was said to be aged about 90, had been in hospital for several weeks suffering from a lung infection.
Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-30945324
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2015/Jan-23/285050-king-abdullah-passes-away-official-saudi-tv.ashx?src=iPhone
Mika
(17,751 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)This is going to be awkward.
Oily friend or systemic human rights abuse foe?
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Ah, gee, Tennessee!
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)I'd hate to see what Jeb was doing underneath that robe that day!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)....It was a long night, if it were only a night; but Scrooge had his doubts of this, because the Christmas Holidays appeared to be condensed into the space of time they passed together. It was strange, too, that while Scrooge remained unaltered in his outward form, the Ghost grew older, clearly older. Scrooge had observed this change, but never spoke of it, until they left a childrens Twelfth Night party, when, looking at the Spirit as they stood together in an open place, he noticed that its hair was grey.
Are spirits lives so short? asked Scrooge.
My life upon this globe, is very brief, replied the Ghost. It ends to-night.
To-night! cried Scrooge.
To-night at midnight. Hark! The time is drawing near.
The chimes were ringing the three quarters past eleven at that moment.
Forgive me if I am not justified in what I ask, said Scrooge, looking intently at the Spirits robe, but I see something strange, and not belonging to yourself, protruding from your skirts. Is it a foot or a claw?
It might be a claw, for the flesh there is upon it, was the Spirits sorrowful reply. Look here.
From the foldings of its robe, it brought two children; wretched, abject, frightful, hideous, miserable. They knelt down at its feet, and clung upon the outside of its garment.
Oh, Man! look here. Look, look, down here! exclaimed the Ghost.
They were a boy and girl. Yellow, meagre, ragged, scowling, wolfish; but prostrate, too, in their humility. Where graceful youth should have filled their features out, and touched them with its freshest tints, a stale and shrivelled hand, like that of age, had pinched, and twisted them, and pulled them into shreds. Where angels might have sat enthroned, devils lurked, and glared out menacing. No change, no degradation, no perversion of humanity, in any grade, through all the mysteries of wonderful creation, has monsters half so horrible and dread.
Scrooge started back, appalled. Having them shown to him in this way, he tried to say they were fine children, but the words choked themselves, rather than be parties to a lie of such enormous magnitude.
Spirit! are they yours? Scrooge could say no more.
They are Mans, said the Spirit, looking down upon them. And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers. This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased. Deny it! cried the Spirit, stretching out its hand towards the city. Slander those who tell it ye! Admit it for your factious purposes, and make it worse. And bide the end!
Have they no refuge or resource? cried Scrooge.
Are there no prisons? said the Spirit, turning on him for the last time with his own words. Are there no workhouses?
The bell struck twelve.
Scrooge looked about him for the Ghost, and saw it not. As the last stroke ceased to vibrate, he remembered the prediction of old Jacob Marley, and lifting up his eyes, beheld a solemn Phantom, draped and hooded, coming, like a mist along the ground, towards him.
CONTINUED...
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/46/46-h/46-h.htm
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)Thank you for posting. Reminded me of Frank Zappa's 'The Torture Never Stops'
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Some prince is about to kill a bunch of dad's advisors.
Aquavit
(488 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)more like time for many to start trying to go for the throne, including isis.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)(Reuters) - A Saudi journalist and a member of the royal family denied rumours on Thursday that King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz, in hospital since December suffering from pneumonia, had died, according to messages on social media.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/01/22/saudi-king-idINKBN0KV2O220150122
Brother Buzz
(36,466 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)jaysunb
(11,856 posts)who has been acting head of State since December.
Ramses
(721 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,466 posts)I suspect the Saudi journalist and a member of the royal family was given marching orders to buy some time until all members of the Royal family could be notified and get their ducks in a row.
Ramses
(721 posts)For your reasons given, false and/or misleading information is given out on twitter accounts all the time, even official ones. That is why I stated twitter is not a reliable news source
Bosonic
(3,746 posts)It's definitely gone unresponsive contemporaneously.
BumRushDaShow
(129,517 posts)ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)Crown Prince Salman is in terrible health, as well, and Abdullah appointed Muqrin as Deputy Crown Prince last spring.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)happyslug
(14,779 posts)The commander of the Saudi National Guard is the son of King Abdullah, who is the only son of King Saud I (who died in 1952) to Abdullah's mother. (King Saud had several wives, and the infighting is between these half brothers AND their adult Children).
King Saud I is also referred to as King Abdulaziz ibn Saud i.e King Abdulaziz son of Saud.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Saud
King Abdullah official name was King Abdullah ibn Abdulaziz, King Abdullah son o Abdulaziz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutaib_bin_Abdullah
King Abdullah or his son had controlled the National Guard for since at least the 1970s and has 100,000 men in the National Guard, who, unlike the US National Guard, a full time active unit. In addition the Guard had 25,000 men it can call into full time service from various tribes loyal to Abdullah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian_National_Guard
On the other hand the Saudi Arabian Army, of roughly 150,000 men has always been controlled by the Sudairi Seven, the seven sons of King Saud I from his wide Sudairi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudairi_Seven
King Fahd, the predecessor to King Abdullah, was one of the Sudairi Seven, two other of these brother had died, leaving four alive, including the new King. King Salman, King Abdullah's successor. King Salman is presently 79 years of age:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_of_Saudi_Arabia
In previous posts I had gone into details about the house of Saud and I see no reason to repeat what I wrote previously, but if you want to read those earlier posts here are their cites. Many of these have duplicate cites but they give you an idea of what this death means:
From 2013:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=640342
From August 2014:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=867694
June 2014:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017196888#post3
From December 2014, where I even included a chart on the House of Saud:
http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=960879
October 2013:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=628856
Form November 2013 where I go into how dictatorships decline and fall after after about three generations:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=656998
In 2012 I started this by comparing Saudi Arabia of 2012 with the Soviet Union of the 1970s and 1980s::
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1127&pid=17990
Here is my comment on the Iranian-Saudi cold war from 2013:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014359561#post3
Report of the 2013 sell of German Leopard II tanks to Saudi Arabia for its National Guard AND why it was done, when the Saudis already had US M1 tanks (i.e. preparing to fight it out, the National Guard was NOT going to wait for US Tanks, they wanted modern TANKS in 2013 to fight the M1 tanks of the Saudi Army):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php/http/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x597969
roamer65
(36,747 posts)He reportedly tried to create a Saudi air defense "blind spot" that the IAF could sneak through to bomb Iran.
A war between Iran and SA will be coming soon, unless ISIS moves in first.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,729 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Never mind that he flogged and beheaded his own people, you'll never hear an American president call the Saudis the brutal dictators that they are.
Good riddance, and may he rot in hell.
Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Reply #18)
Fred Sanders This message was self-deleted by its author.
MFrohike
(1,980 posts)Really bad joke, sorry.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Internal power struggle could break out. I realize many people here think the fall from power of the House of Saud would be a wonderful thing. The reality is that there would be extreme chaos and instability that would reverberate throughout the region and around the world for a long time to come.
Efilroft Sul
(3,582 posts)Yeah, go ahead and alert me.
'Cause the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.
Bosonic
(3,746 posts)Probably not a keeper then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_of_Saudi_Arabia#Health
IDemo
(16,926 posts)YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Saudi Arabia is, ostensibly, an ally.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)Considering...well, you know...
Arcadiasix
(255 posts)Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)on a one way ticket.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I don't understand. Can you clarify?
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)If there's anyone who deserves a hearty Fuck You at his funeral, it's a Saudi dictator.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Nobel_Twaddle_III
(323 posts)That would be fun !
but
Probably not going to happen in this version of the universe.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)No shit?
daleo
(21,317 posts)I suspect that internal Saudi politics has been a key factor in the recent price manipulations.
proud patriot
(100,715 posts)RandySF
(59,238 posts)Loge23
(3,922 posts)...but I'll make an exception in this bag of shit's case.
Tomorrow, Friday, is scheduled to be the second of 20 - 20! - public floggings (read: severe beatings) of a freakin' blogger for God's sakes! If there's any mercy in this fucked-up world, the poor guy will follow King Shit and give him the final push into the depths of hell.
King Shit, an ally of the evilest warlords and obscene profiteers of the former United States of America, actually presided over a country that only acknowledges the current calender date with their collection of any and everything elite. Otherwise they preside over the stone age: beheading, flogging, and subjugating females as public entertainment.
But not to worry, stone heads! Another King Shit sadist bastard will assume the throne while so-called American leaders line up to kiss his ring.
Allies?! Of whom? 3,000 victims of 9-11 may know the answer if there is an afterlife - and let's hope there's not after this sunny joy ride to hell.
One less piece of shit on the planet.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)religious. He expects that things are going to get worse there.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)The commander of the Saudi National Guard is the son of King Abdullah, who is the only son of King Saud I (who died in 1952) to Abdullah's mother. (King Saud had several wives, and the infighting is between these half brothers AND their adult Children).
King Saud I is also referred to as King Abdulaziz ibn Saud i.e King Abdulaziz son of Saud.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Saud
King Abdullah official name was King Abdullah ibn Abdulaziz, King Abdullah son o Abdulaziz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutaib_bin_Abdullah
King Abdullah or his son had controlled the National Guard for since at least the 1970s and has 100,000 men in the National Guard, who, unlike the US National Guard, a full time active unit. In addition the Guard had 25,000 men it can call into full time service from various tribes loyal to Abdullah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian_National_Guard
On the other hand the Saudi Arabian Army, of roughly 150,000 men has always been controlled by the Sudairi Seven, the seven sons of King Saud I from his wide Sudairi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudairi_Seven
King Fahd, the predecessor to King Abdullah, was one of the Sudairi Seven, two other of these brother had died, leaving four alive, including the new King. King Salman, King Abdullah's successor. King Salman is presently 79 years of age:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_of_Saudi_Arabia
In previous posts I had gone into details about the house of Saud and I see no reason to repeat what I wrote previously, but if you want to read those earlier posts here are their cites. Many of these have duplicate cites but they give you an idea of what this death means:
From 2013:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=640342
From August 2014:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=867694
June 2014:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017196888#post3
From December 2014, where I even included a chart on the House of Saud:
http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=960879
October 2013:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=628856
Form November 2013 where I go into how dictatorships decline and fall after after about three generations:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=656998
In 2012 I started this by comparing Saudi Arabia of 2012 with the Soviet Union of the 1970s and 1980s::
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1127&pid=17990
Here is my comment on the Iranian-Saudi cold war from 2013:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014359561#post3
Report of the 2013 sell of German Leopard II tanks to Saudi Arabia for its National Guard AND why it was done, when the Saudis already had US M1 tanks (i.e. preparing to fight it out, the National Guard was NOT going to wait for US Tanks, they wanted modern TANKS in 2013 to fight the M1 tanks of the Saudi Army):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php/http/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x597969