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friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 07:20 PM Jan 2015

Detective wanted arrest warrant for NBC's David Gregory

Source: USA Today

Detective wanted arrest warrant for NBC's David Gregory


Yamiche Alcindor, USA TODAY 5:36 p.m. EST January 24, 2015

The controversy over former NBC anchor David Gregory's display of a high capacity gun magazine got new legs this week.

An affidavit shows a Washington Metropolitan Police Department detective requested an arrest warrant for Gregory, according to Conservative website Legal Insurrection. In December 2012, the then host of NBC's "Meet the Press" broke the district's laws by waving the 30-round ammunition magazine at the network's studio during an interview...

...According to the affidavit, a NBC editor exchanged several e-mails with authorities who informed the editor that possessing the magazine would violate the law and be a misdemeanor. Police recommended using a photo instead of the magazine during the interview.

Gregory later displayed the magazine. In response, police investigated the incident. And, Wayne Gerrish, a Washington Metropolitan Police Department detective, requested an arrest warrant for Gregory. It was declined in January 2013.



Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/01/24/detective-wanted-arrest-warrant-for-nbcs-david-gregory/22275317/



Naturally it was declined- Gregory could be trusted with that magazine, he's not
one of "those people..."

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Detective wanted arrest warrant for NBC's David Gregory (Original Post) friendly_iconoclast Jan 2015 OP
How much do yo want to bet rocktivity Jan 2015 #1
Gotta watch out for those crazy people... bobclark86 Jan 2015 #2
Some of those "piece(s) of stamped aluminum with a spring" are dangerous- according friendly_iconoclast Jan 2015 #5
Gregory's arrest would have led to a feeding frenzy of reporters Lurks Often Jan 2015 #3
Only Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #4
Indeed- *all* rules are different for the 1% and their employees friendly_iconoclast Jan 2015 #6
I once found myself speaking to a Pittsburgh cop in a bar JohnnyRingo Jan 2015 #7
How silly that law is Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #8
I don't have a strong opinion on extended mags JohnnyRingo Jan 2015 #10
Then what is the point of this law, if not "intending to hurt anyone" is the standard for... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2015 #9
I'll reply with what I think is the obvious. JohnnyRingo Jan 2015 #11
Well our whole system of criminal law depends on mens rea - guilty mind- intent. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2015 #20
So if I own one or a dozen... Adrahil Jan 2015 #14
If you own a dozen of them christx30 Jan 2015 #16
You're being obtuse. Darb Jan 2015 #23
So, what good is the magazine without the gun? Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #12
You can put bullets in 'em! That's scary! n/t Adrahil Jan 2015 #15
Darn you freindy! I was going to post this! minivan2 Jan 2015 #13
My first thought MurrayDelph Jan 2015 #17
Jack Welch's sock monkey... Hubert Flottz Jan 2015 #18
I would have shown the pic but he wasn't exactly threatening wordpix Jan 2015 #19
I don't think the detective's motive,,, cynzke Jan 2015 #21
Subtle ? father founding Jan 2015 #22

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
1. How much do yo want to bet
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jan 2015

that it WOULDN'T have been declined against Maddow, Schultz, or Sharpton? And how much do you want to bet that Gregory would have "done the right thing?"


rocktivity

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
5. Some of those "piece(s) of stamped aluminum with a spring" are dangerous- according
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 07:55 PM
Jan 2015

to certain people. Their logic goes somewhat like this:

Have one that holds 10 or fewer rounds? You're a responsible gun owner.

Have one that holds more? You're liable to snap at any moment...

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
3. Gregory's arrest would have led to a feeding frenzy of reporters
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 07:32 PM
Jan 2015

descending on the Mayor, the D.A. and the Washington D.C. police department looking for anything to embarass them.

Us peons would have been arrested

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
6. Indeed- *all* rules are different for the 1% and their employees
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 07:59 PM
Jan 2015

It was always quite easy for a rich and/or well connected person to obtain a handgun
permit in Michael Bloomberg's New York City. Joe or Juana Schmoe from the Bronx?

Fuggedaboudit!

In no way whatsoever was an employee of one of the largest media companies on the planet
going to be gigged for breaking that law.

JohnnyRingo

(18,634 posts)
7. I once found myself speaking to a Pittsburgh cop in a bar
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 08:00 PM
Jan 2015

At one point in our conversation he said the most sensible thing I ever heard an officer say: "Intent is everything when I consider an arrest".

Technically Gregory broke a law meant to protect citizens, but he obviously wasn't intending to hurt anyone. It was basically a prop. What purpose would be served by hauling him out in 'cuffs?

On edit:
I'm not a fan of "Stretch" by any stretch of the imagination, but to me there seems to be a lack of common sense in seeking a criminal trial for this. Sounds like this cop has the kind of Joe Friday stick up his ass that could land his mother behind bars if she forgets to renew her license.

JohnnyRingo

(18,634 posts)
10. I don't have a strong opinion on extended mags
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jan 2015

As a gun owner myself, I understand that switching mags takes so little time when everyone has their heads down that murder rates will likely be unaffected by banning them, but I also understand the cosmetic issue. It's harder to be terrified of gangs if they're armed like Elmer Fudd. hahaha

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
9. Then what is the point of this law, if not "intending to hurt anyone" is the standard for...
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 08:13 PM
Jan 2015

...enforcing it? One can do bad things with any size magazine, not just
one of the >10 round ones.

Let me ask you this:

Should anyone posessing one of these things that isn't hurting anyone- IOW, committing
a crime with a gun- get similar leniency?

JohnnyRingo

(18,634 posts)
11. I'll reply with what I think is the obvious.
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 08:19 PM
Jan 2015

If someone has an extended mag laying on the floor of their car during a traffic stop at 2:00AM they may deserve further investigation. Some network tool displaying one to spur a studio discussion isn't even close to that level of suspicious behavior.

Such discretion is why RoboCops are only good for traffic light enforcement, and even then...

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
20. Well our whole system of criminal law depends on mens rea - guilty mind- intent.
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 07:06 AM
Jan 2015

So yeah, a journalist doing a story on the magazines is absolutely different than someone possessing the magazine as part if their arsenal.

Duh.

Why people are confusing intent to posses with intent to do harm is beyond silly. Nothing in the law stipulates you have to be intending to do harm for possession to be a violation.

One wouldn't guilty of possession if the magazine was slipped in to your back pack without your knowledge. On the flip side, one would be absolutely guilty if they ordered the item on line and paid with a credit card and was found with the item in their collection with all their other toys.


Sure it's a gray area where a reporter doing his job is involved. Big fucking deal. We give the press conducting a story more latitude. Always have.

Now I have to go throw up for calling "Stretch" the press.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
14. So if I own one or a dozen...
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 12:12 AM
Jan 2015

.... And I don't intend to hurt anyone, why is it a problem?

Magazine bans... Oy!

christx30

(6,241 posts)
16. If you own a dozen of them
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 01:22 AM
Jan 2015

and no gun to use them in, you have some stamped aluminum and some springs. Might be able to hurt someone by throwing one at them. But that's about it.

minivan2

(214 posts)
13. Darn you freindy! I was going to post this!
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 10:22 PM
Jan 2015

But seriously, This hopefully will change my moms mind from thinking that he's a good "liberal" to a bad conservative.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
19. I would have shown the pic but he wasn't exactly threatening
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 03:03 AM
Jan 2015

having an actual magazine. Doesn't the District's detective have anything better to do, like investigate a real crime?

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
21. I don't think the detective's motive,,,
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 09:39 AM
Jan 2015

was to punish Dick Gregory. I think he was trying to retaliate against the law restricting this magazine. He and his gun nut buddies can't have them, therefore, why should Dick Gregory have possession of one. It tit for tat mentality and retaliation.

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