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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 02:47 PM Aug 2014

Putin Has Now Cornered Ukraine And Its President

I don't know the politics of the author of this piece, but the points he makes about the West's support for Ukraine and that government falling apart ring true based on recent history.

If a country doesn't do business the way "our" bankers and oil companies like, we overthrow their government either by backing rebellions and revolutions, or directly intervening militarily ourselves. Then we establish or support a government that we think will do the bidding of "our" banking and oil companies.

The problem is, the previous governments often didn't do the things they were "supposed to" because they knew they would be run out of office or killed by their own people if they did.

A case in point is Iraq. Our oil companies wanted them to de-nationalize their oil reserves so the oil companies could reap the vast majority of the profits from it. Our government supported or rejected Prime ministers based on their support of this. Maliki supported it, but couldn't get his parliament to enact it because they know the US won't helicopter all of them out to escape the angry mob if they did. And so, Maliki must go for not doing the impossible.

Likewise, in the Ukraine, given the major ass-screwing bankers are giving Europe with austerity right now, to the extent that the new Ukrainian government follows their orders, they will become unpopular and eventually chased out of office.

You can trick people into trading a sack of gold for a sack of shit, but you can't expect them to stay happy once they open the package.




Ukraine's government is in a perilous position after advances by Russian troops into southeastern regions in the country, and it's likely the country will have to accept a cease-fire that hands over large swaths of territory to pro-Russian separatists.

Geopolitical expert Ian Bremmer, the president of Eurasia Group, told Business Insider in an email that Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko is now backed into a corner. And Bremmer said Poroshenko would most likely seek a quick cease-fire solution to prevent his country's economy from completely collapsing.

"The Ukrainian government has been in an impossible position, they gambled, and they've lost," Bremmer said. "Poroshenko now needs a cease-fire so that he can try to restart negotiations, the terms of which will effectively mean freezing the conflict and ceding significant pieces of Ukrainian territory to the separatists. That's politically perilous for him and risks counterdemonstrations against his government in Kiev. All the while his economy will be falling apart, with very limited support from the West.

"But there's no other way out."

Ukraine and Russia are now at war, Bremmer said, after the Ukrainian government's gamble did not pay off. Russia continued to escalate the situation in response to a strong offensive from Ukraine's military in the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, where fighting between the government and the separatists has raged for months. But Russia has important oil, gas, and military ties to Ukraine, as Bremmer pointed out:



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-russia-at-war-invasion-2014-8#ixzz3Bo8ZmeMJ
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Putin Has Now Cornered Ukraine And Its President (Original Post) yurbud Aug 2014 OP
And how much money has Wellstone ruled Aug 2014 #1
Vice President's son swilton Aug 2014 #2
+1 newthinking Aug 2014 #3
Thanks for this info. glinda Aug 2014 #4
"transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion," newthinking Aug 2014 #5
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. And how much money has
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 03:16 PM
Aug 2014

JP Morgan and others along with big oil spending in Ukraine to develop the known Oil and Gas. Hundreds of millions,just a side show guys,when they get tired of killing the innocent this will pass.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
5. "transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion,"
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:53 AM
Aug 2014

Hunter Biden said he would help the company with "transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion," and other issues.

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