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"Misogyny Is Not Human Nature"
Misogyny Is Not Human NatureBy Eric Michael Johnson at Slate
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/09/online_misogyny_of_the_fappening_stealing_celebrity_photos_is_not_just_human.2.html
"SNIP......................
A troop of baboons in Kenya would disagree with this sentiment. Baboons live in a highly patriarchal society in which high-ranking males dominate those males who are subordinate to them. Of all primates, baboons are notorious for the aggressive behavior that males display toward females, and they have been known to viciously attack any who reject their sexual advances. Since male baboons are about twice the size of females and have 2-inch-long canines that they use to eviscerate their opponents, they would seem to justify the assumption that might is right in the natural world. But nature is not monolithic. Within every population, whether we are looking at baboons or humans, there is a range of variation in traits. Some individuals are highly aggressive and seek dominance, whereas others are more content to socialize with their peers. These traits become enhanced or reduced based on the environment in which the population lives.
In the early 1980s, a group of olive baboons known as Forest Troop underwent a unique natural experiment. The territory of their neighbors, Garbage Dump Troop, overlapped with that of a tourist lodge. The Garbage Dump Troop had access to the leftover meat that had been discarded into the lodges dump. The most aggressive males from Forest Troop began invading their neighbors territory to access the meat for themselves. Soon afterward, tuberculosis ravaged the baboons from both troops who had been feeding at the garbage dump. Because it was only the most aggressive males of Forest Troop that died out, the results were twofold: Less aggressive males were more common in the population, and the female-to-male ratio had now doubled.
The social consequences were startling. According to Stanford University primatologist Robert Sapolsky, who documented the event and followed the troop for the next 20 years, the brutal hierarchy that was common among male baboons disappeared, and the amount of affiliative behaviorssuch as males and females grooming one anotherincreased markedly. What was most surprising was what followed over the intervening years. Males always migrate to other troops at puberty, and new immigrant males to the Forest Troop adopted the local culture that they encountered. Even though none of the original population is alive today, this highly cooperative baboon society remains intact. As Sapolsky wrote in Foreign Affairs, Forest Troops low aggression/high affiliation society constitutes nothing less than a multigenerational benign culture.
Something similar has been found in human societies today. According to a study published this year in the journal Evolutionary Behavioral Sciences by Daniel Kruger, Maryanne Fisher, and Paula Wright, there are dramatic differences between societies based on the relative culture of patriarchy. The authors examined demographic data from the World Health Organization, United Nations, CIA World Factbook, and Encyclopedia of World Cultures and found a strong association between female empowerment and the level of early mortality among both women and men. In highly patriarchal societies, men control resources and female sexuality. The outcome of this is that there are increased levels of competition between males that result in higher rates of early death. But when female empowerment is increased, this highly unequal environment is relaxed and aggression against others is reduced. Ultimately, patriarchy hurts men as well as women. But does this also extend to online environments?
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"Misogyny Is Not Human Nature" (Original Post)
applegrove
Sep 2014
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BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)1. fascinating! a really obvious take away here,
That no one will like to think about, is that the aggressive males were allowed to reap the consequences of their actions. They got themselves the most meat, and got sick.
No one jumped in to save them from the consequences of their own behavior. ......and lo and behold, the baboons with that aggressive genetic make-up died out. A new, more cooperative type was allowed to flourish.
Interesting. Verrry verrrrrrrrry interesting.
applegrove
(118,749 posts)2. The cooperative baboons were always there. They just went along
with the aggressive ones when the aggressive ones were in power. The point is the cooperative people have to speak out to bad behaviour. I get what you are saing about the banking crisis. But I do think, as aggressive males controlling things in the baboons or human communities, they do die much younger so and dont seem to notice that. Which means there is self delusion going on with the powerlust. So if the USA had let half the banks go under I doubt the alpha males would lead to less risky behaviour. Regulations work too in controlling their behaviour in humans.
A Little Weird
(1,754 posts)3. Interesting article
Thanks for posting.
malthaussen
(17,215 posts)4. Well, I'll be a monkey's...
Very interesting.
-- Mal
libodem
(19,288 posts)5. Wow!
I love this study!