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Demeter

(85,373 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 09:50 PM Mar 2015

Man Has Patent Which Could Destroy Monsanto

http://yournewswire.com/man-has-patent-which-could-destroy-monsanto/



Paul Stamets was granted a patent in 2006 to naturally prevent insects from destroying crops.

It is being described as “SMART pesticides” and has Monsanto extremely worried.

Loveclicks.org reports:

We can no longer deny that the pesticide industry is causing incredibly detrimental effects to the earth, people, animals, plants & insects too. The rapid decline of the world’s bee populations is being attributed to Monsanto’s chemical concoctions that are being sprayed over farmers fields around the world. (Though the number of countries who have kicked out & banned Monsanto is growing) The use of chemical pesticides is a practice that absolutely must stop and new methods must be employed before it’s too late.

Yet with Monsanto generating nearly $16 BILLION dollars in 2014, they certainly do not want anything getting in the way of that money flow. That kind of revenue gives them a lot of resources and abilities to suppress information that may be damaging to them.

Like this patent of Paul Stamet’s. Paul has figured out how to use mother nature’s own creations to keep insects from destroying crops. It is what’s being called SMART pesticides. These biopesticides provide a safe & nearly permanent solution for controlling over 200,000 species of insects, and it is all thanks to the ‘magic’ of mushrooms.

I won’t go into the specifics of how it all works, for most of us won’t really understand it anyway, but to summarize, he does this by taking entomopathogenic Fungi (fungi that destroys insects) and morphs it into not producing spores. This in turn actually attracts the insects who then eat and turn into fungi from the inside out!

For those who do want to do their own further research on the topic, I have provided a list of links below to help you along.

As more people wake up to the damaging effects of Monsanto’s chemicals & GMO foods, the demand for truly nutritious, pesticide free, non-gmo, organic foods is on the rise. We are seeing more community gardens & urban forests being created. More people are starting to grow food, not lawns. Permaculture is becoming more widely talked about and understood. There is a major paradigm shift happening right now as our collective consciousness expands and awakens.

These truly are exciting, monumental times we live in. We are seeing old world ways crumble and power structures fall as we wake up and step up to collectively create a more healthy and sustainable way of working, living & playing together on this planet. The time has come. We can do this!

Here is a link to the patent we are speaking of: http://www.google.com/patents/US7122176

- See more at: http://yournewswire.com/man-has-patent-which-could-destroy-monsanto/#sthash.hNKVuKK4.dpuf
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Man Has Patent Which Could Destroy Monsanto (Original Post) Demeter Mar 2015 OP
So the real question, if so, is Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #1
See: The Electric Car BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #5
And make sure that no matter what happens to him, his patent will still be on the market so removing sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #42
That will definitely be his safest option. ng TBF Mar 2015 #37
Kick. (nt) NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #2
It wouldn't hurt my feelings. malokvale77 Mar 2015 #3
I envy you, Roundup Ralph and all Warpy Mar 2015 #17
:( BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #19
I am now the longest owning residence in this neighborhood (45years). malokvale77 Mar 2015 #21
none of us in my small neighborhood Brainstormy Mar 2015 #39
Please excuse my ignorance, Enthusiast Mar 2015 #50
for fucks sake Hestia Mar 2015 #53
Thank you, Hestia. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #56
Stametz is a very clever man. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he found a way kestrel91316 Mar 2015 #4
There would be a lot of glasses in the air AwakeAtLast Mar 2015 #31
he also has a replacement for chemical fertilizers, too. mopinko Mar 2015 #6
Fungi for earth repair is discussed in this fine book alfredo Mar 2015 #12
cool! n/t BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #20
Here's another good one. Alittleliberal Mar 2015 #54
Thanks. I put it on my wish list. alfredo Mar 2015 #60
I see a lot of cognitive dissonance in the future EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2015 #7
He's not using genetic engineering to do this, is he? pnwmom Mar 2015 #8
I'm not sure how else he could be modifying the fungus to EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2015 #10
is that how they make seedless oranges? Voice for Peace Mar 2015 #13
Seedless fruit is create through genetic modification EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2015 #24
Seedless oranges are not genetically engineered, ROFLMAO kestrel91316 Mar 2015 #46
^^^ bvar22 Mar 2015 #57
His company is certified organic. And this article doesn't say he's modifying the fungi genetics. pnwmom Mar 2015 #15
His edible mushroom products are certified organic EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2015 #23
Selection doesn't require GMO engineering. pnwmom Mar 2015 #25
He has found a fungus that does something cool, kestrel91316 Mar 2015 #47
People have been tinkering with crops for decades, and I seriously doubt that Stamets is truedelphi Mar 2015 #27
he is not using any genetic manipulation. mopinko Mar 2015 #32
More power to him. Thespian2 Mar 2015 #9
Last year I used some vinegar concoction to control weeds. mountain grammy Mar 2015 #11
And you can believe they will do ANYTHING to keep this under the rug. ProudMomof3Cuties Mar 2015 #14
Welcome to DU! stillwaiting Mar 2015 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author stillwaiting Mar 2015 #45
Bedbugs do not "destroy immune systems". Gawd I hate how kestrel91316 Mar 2015 #48
Mycellium Running arikara Mar 2015 #16
He'd better watch his back. C Moon Mar 2015 #18
K&R ReRe Mar 2015 #22
But Monsanto has lawyers that could destroy him... n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #26
Monsanto can't also figure out how to do this? jmowreader Mar 2015 #28
They just kill. :-| n/t DeSwiss Mar 2015 #29
Are you sure about that? jmowreader Mar 2015 #36
Monsanto making money...... DeSwiss Mar 2015 #52
Yeah, yeah, yeah!!! DeSwiss Mar 2015 #30
If Paul Stamets could invent a fungi... sorechasm Mar 2015 #34
As long as it didn't eat up the people as well. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #51
"This in turn actually attracts the insects who then eat and turn into fungi from the inside out!" magical thyme Mar 2015 #33
The fungi that do that are already around. JoeyT Mar 2015 #38
There is something called, "Alteration of Generation". DhhD Mar 2015 #40
Will all insects eat fungus spores? jmowreader Mar 2015 #55
thank you sue4e3 Jul 2015 #65
Fungal pesticides are nothing new and a patent does not mean the product is commercially viable Major Nikon Mar 2015 #35
My thoughts, precisely. paleotn Mar 2015 #59
Keep this guy off small planes. nt valerief Mar 2015 #41
Here is a link to his TedMed talk Overseas Mar 2015 #43
Really? farmers can control fungus and weeds with a mushroom? obxhead Mar 2015 #49
Exactly..... paleotn Mar 2015 #58
! DeSwiss Mar 2015 #61
How so? paleotn Mar 2015 #62
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #63
That is one big mushroom. Kick for FUNGI! midnight Mar 2015 #64

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
42. And make sure that no matter what happens to him, his patent will still be on the market so removing
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 04:11 PM
Mar 2015

HIM, won't solve the problem.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
3. It wouldn't hurt my feelings.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:07 PM
Mar 2015

Every year I expand a bit more of my yard to grow food. Nothing angers me more than for my neighbor to pour Roundup and toxic pesticides along our common fence line.

Two years ago that shit washed into my garden after a rainstorm and killed all my newly sprouted crops.

Warpy

(111,317 posts)
17. I envy you, Roundup Ralph and all
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:43 AM
Mar 2015

The west is in a severe drought that some climatologists are starting to call "unprecedented." That means expensive potable water and that means we get our produce from Mexico or that small strip along the Rio Grande that has deeded irrigation rights.

You have my sympathy, it's always something: Roundup, Chem Lawn, or woodchucks, rabbits and deer.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
19. :(
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:47 AM
Mar 2015

I moved into the city from the country and too many people where I am now have TruGreen spray poison. Wish I could make them stop.

I love where I am, and it's the best place for me now, but I miss the lightning bugs and the butterflies and all the other critters.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
21. I am now the longest owning residence in this neighborhood (45years).
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:17 AM
Mar 2015

I have a standard 1/4 acre suburban lot. I am really getting sick of people pouring Roundup all over because they saw a dandelion. Hell, I make wine from that.

I have never put any pesticide on my property. My dog is the only one in the neighborhood with no fleas.

I compost FFS.

I feel like going ninja on these assholes. LOL

Brainstormy

(2,381 posts)
39. none of us in my small neighborhood
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:39 PM
Mar 2015

do the chemical lawn thing. The lawns aren't House and Garden, but they're pretty good. Neither of my two dogs have ever had fleas. We save a LOT of money, too.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
4. Stametz is a very clever man. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he found a way
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:14 PM
Mar 2015

to seriously hurt or cripple Monsanto.

And I'd raise a toast to him if he did.

mopinko

(70,178 posts)
6. he also has a replacement for chemical fertilizers, too.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:49 PM
Mar 2015

fungi to get the nutrients from the soil to the plant.
i bought some. i will let you know how it works.

he is a very smart cookie. fungi are where it is at. they are the root of my soil building.
when we plow fields, we disrupt them terribly. that's why we are pretty much no till. course, you cant till a hugelbed, even it you want to. at least not for the first decade or so.

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
7. I see a lot of cognitive dissonance in the future
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:09 PM
Mar 2015

He's essentially genetically modifying fungus to create "non-GMO" food. Should be amusing to watch.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
8. He's not using genetic engineering to do this, is he?
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:35 PM
Mar 2015

This isn't the same as artificially introducing DNA into a species.

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
10. I'm not sure how else he could be modifying the fungus to
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:18 AM
Mar 2015

do what he's claiming it does. The story doesn't describe the mechanism by which he modifies the organism, but I'd be willing to bet it has something to do with modifying its DNA.

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
24. Seedless fruit is create through genetic modification
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:36 AM
Mar 2015

But I'm not sure if it's the same process for a fungus since the way fungi reproduce is different from the mechanism used by plants to reproduce.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
46. Seedless oranges are not genetically engineered, ROFLMAO
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:54 PM
Mar 2015

They are BRED to be that way. You know - how we used to do it before microguns shooting DNA about were invented.

Do your homework before you wind us sounding even MORE foolish.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
57. ^^^
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 08:46 PM
Mar 2015

Though the GMO people would like you to believe otherwise,
natural selection is NOTHING like Gene Splicing.
You will hear that LIE repeated over and over, even here at DU.

BTW: Monsanto got their GMO products approved...NOT by scientists,
but by politicians in Washington whose verdict was that GMO was "close enough" that it didn't need to be tested.... Politicians, NOT scientists.

To Date: There has been NO long term testing of GMO crops.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
15. His company is certified organic. And this article doesn't say he's modifying the fungi genetics.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:42 AM
Mar 2015

Certified organic foods cannot contain GMO’s, by law. Paul Stamet sells organic mushrooms.

http://www.fungi.com

This is Paul Stamets’s company. “Fungi Perfecti is Certified Organic by the Washington State Department of Agriculture.”

http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=15e749d2cd641286217a55794&id=9c1bbc8350

For years, Paul Stamets and the Fungi Perfecti team have worked to locate and study specimens of Agarikon (Fomitopsis officinalis). This stately polypore mushroom is unique in its longevity: some specimens are thought to survive for as long as 75 years, withstanding pathogens, parasites and the elements. Due to its powerful potential to support human and ecosystem health, our team works to preserve as many Agarikon strains as possible. Once preserved, each strain can then be evaluated for efficacy, then sustainably cultivated to produce functional food supplements for humans or spawn to help restore this species in threatened environments. During NAMA, we located not one but two Agarikon specimens!

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
23. His edible mushroom products are certified organic
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:34 AM
Mar 2015

But I'm not sure if that certification extends to his pesticide products (or if it's even applicable to this type of pesticide).

I'm not a mycologist, but reading through his patent application shows that he's doing some kind of genetic modification:

To select an entomopathogenic species, strain or variety or sub-strain, or to select for a characteristic within those species, strains, varieties or sub-strains, or to isolate and propagate cultures involves choices that affect the downstream methods, products and activities. Such selection might involve location and isolation of a species or strain from the wild or the acquisition from a culture bank or other source, the selection of a petri dish culture which manifests the desired characteristics, the selection of a strain which gives favorable results in a bioassay or the selection of a sector within a petri dish culture for healthy growth or other characteristics.

If he's not doing any sort of genetic modification, then his patent application is essentially for the growth of a natural substance, which shouldn't be a patentable process.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
25. Selection doesn't require GMO engineering.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:48 AM
Mar 2015

And what he's patenting is the technology for working with the fungi not the fungi DNA itself.

https://www.google.com/patents/US20040161440?dq=paul+stamets&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8dLrVL2XLcOeggTOsISIDQ&ved=0CE4Q6AEwBw

SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION
[0015] The present invention offers an environmentally benign approach to insect control by attracting the insects who ingest latent preconidial mycelium (which may be fresh, dried or freeze-dried) which then infects the host. The preconidial mycelium is both the attractant and the pathogenic agent. The infected insects carrying the fungal hyphae become a vector back to the central colony, further dispersing the fungal pathogen. Mycelium is grown in pure culture using standard fermentation techniques for in vitro propagation. The fermented mycelia is diluted and transferred into a sterilized grain or a mixture of sterilized grains. Once inoculated, the fermented mycelia matures to a state prior to conidia formation. The preconidial mycelium may be utilized as is or may be arrested in its development through flash chilling (or by other means such as air-drying or refrigeration) and packaged in spoilage-proof or sealed packages. The end-user facilitates opening the package and placing the exposed mycelia-grain contents in the vicinity of recent pest activity.

[0016] The present invention thus provides improved products and methods wherein the fungal mycelium acts as bait and attractant and as an ingested or food insecticide, palatable enough that insects will readily consume it even in the presence of competing food sources, with high recruitment of other insects among social insects that exhibit such behavior. This results in multiple visits to a highly attractive pathogenic bait, thereby providing effective individual insect and/or colony inoculation.

[0017] The present invention further provides these and other advantages with improved control of insect pests using fungal insecticidal compositions (mycopesticides) having strong attractant properties and placing these attractant mycopesticides in or around an object or area to be protected. The present invention also provides insecticidal baits which use, as a toxicant, relatively innocuous, naturally occurring materials as the active agent, so as to control insects without undue effect on the ecology. Finally, by actively avoiding the use of conidia, the time and expense of raising conidial stage mycelium and/or separating conidia is avoided.

[0018] Still further objects and advantages of the present invention will become more apparent from the following detailed description and appended claims.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
47. He has found a fungus that does something cool,
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:55 PM
Mar 2015

He didn't create it using laboratory equipment costing millions of dollars.

Hybrids are patentable. Just ask Burpee.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
27. People have been tinkering with crops for decades, and I seriously doubt that Stamets is
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:02 AM
Mar 2015

Utilizing "modern genetic engineering" to do this.

He simply knows how to select for for this aspect, and the mushrooms do the rest.

I have never heard of Stamets refering to dealing with any type of GM facility, and doubt that he would need to.

mopinko

(70,178 posts)
32. he is not using any genetic manipulation.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:04 AM
Mar 2015

this is just a collection of spores.
i presume he was given a patent for the combination because he has proven that it serves the function of controlling weeds. i know it was a long slog.
his fertilizing blends are not patented, so i assume it is the function rather than the composition that got him the patent.

sorry, nice try, tho.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
9. More power to him.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:44 PM
Mar 2015

Our province bans Round-up, except in a highly diluted form. I grow my garden without pesticides of any kind. I don't mind feeding the insects if they share with me, and they usually do. Best to grow your own food, but I know in America, in many communities, vegetable growing is outlawed.

mountain grammy

(26,642 posts)
11. Last year I used some vinegar concoction to control weeds.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:24 AM
Mar 2015

worked great. Not too many insects up here, crops either. Definitely seeing fewer bees.

14. And you can believe they will do ANYTHING to keep this under the rug.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:39 AM
Mar 2015

Much as the industry is doing to attack and conceal the FUNGUS THAT CAN DESTROY BEDBUGS!!!!

Beauveria bassiana

It's avaialable in a product called BOTANIGUARD, designed for aphids.

IMAGINE THE CRIMINALITY OF SUPRESSING THIS. Bedbugs are a constant companion( immune system destroyer) of the worlds poor populations.

It would only take a small amount of money for governments to dispense this to the masses.

Alas.........Libor rigging, buying mansions and destroying Libyan water pipes to sell more IMF loans are they're cup of tea.

Response to ProudMomof3Cuties (Reply #14)

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
48. Bedbugs do not "destroy immune systems". Gawd I hate how
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:57 PM
Mar 2015

people throw words around that they don't understand.

Bedbugs suck blood. PERIOD.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
16. Mycellium Running
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:43 AM
Mar 2015

He's written several books about mushrooms and fungi, Mycellium Running is his classic, written 10 years ago. He talks about the uses of mushrooms beyond culinary, and how they can actually be used to detoxify the environment among other things.

He's the visionary expert of the mushroom world. I can't see him selling out.

http://www.amazon.ca/Mycelium-Running-Mushrooms-Help-World/dp/1580085792/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1426394041&sr=8-2&keywords=paul+stamets

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
52. Monsanto making money......
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 07:23 PM
Mar 2015

...is how and why they kill.

- It's hard to break old habits when you've been a killer for so long......



[center]America's premier POISON MAKERS.






Towns poisoned by Monsanto[/center]
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
30. Yeah, yeah, yeah!!!
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 07:35 AM
Mar 2015
- I know this! He's tuning them into Cordyceps! Mother Nature's own zombiefication process!

''I won’t go into the specifics of how it all works, for most of us won’t really understand it anyway, but to summarize, he does this by taking entomopathogenic Fungi (fungi that destroys insects) and morphs it into not producing spores. This in turn actually attracts the insects who then eat and turn into fungi from the inside out!'' - link




K&R!

Hemp plants for remediation of highly contaminated soils

sorechasm

(631 posts)
34. If Paul Stamets could invent a fungi...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:18 PM
Mar 2015

...that could spore within a Monsanto factory and eat it up from the inside. Would that be patentable?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
51. As long as it didn't eat up the people as well.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 07:17 PM
Mar 2015
- Otherwise TPTB would steal it from him to use as a weapon against us, just like they've done to all the others in the past. Of course when others come along (100th Monkey) and think up with the same ideas, it becomes more problematic to control the evolutionary process and keeping us stupid and under their control.
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
33. "This in turn actually attracts the insects who then eat and turn into fungi from the inside out!"
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:16 AM
Mar 2015

Statements like this concern me. I don't know if they are just writing shorthand hyperbole for a process they can't describe of it they mean that the insect literally turns into fungus (or is overrun by fungus).

Because if it is the latter, I wonder what the effect is on birds or frogs that eat the insect-fungus. Does their digestive system break down the fungus, or are they, too, killed by it?

Obviously, I need to read further on this to answer my question, but the bottom line for me is "what, if any, are the unintended consequences?" If only because so many "easy solutions" to problems turn out to create 10 more problems in their wake...

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
38. The fungi that do that are already around.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:06 PM
Mar 2015

I'm guessing he's just making them bypass insect defense mechanisms or spread more rapidly somehow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entomopathogenic_fungus

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
40. There is something called, "Alteration of Generation".
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:57 PM
Mar 2015

There is a gametophyte generation and a sporophyte generation.

The patent describes a process known to the holder to keep the fungi in one of the generations longer depending on the compounds present, between the host and fungi, so the absorption is great enough to kill the insect. The patent reads about the presence of several fungi and the patent holders who know the chemical processes of absorption to the death of the certain insect by way of their patented process. In other words, these many processes were well known and patented, long before Monsanto came on the scene.

The chemical compounds that make up the insects body are absorbed and reconstructed by the DNA of the Fungi Kingdom. Same in the Animal Kingdom. Animals eat, absorb the food, and build new cells. It is just a part of the living biosphere we call Earth.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
55. Will all insects eat fungus spores?
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 07:38 PM
Mar 2015

Interesting:

http://www.waldeneffect.org/blog/King_Stropharia_mushrooms_in_permaculture/

Turns out honeybees will eat at least one specie of mushroom...so I gotta know: if it turns out honeybees have a taste for the bug-eating mushrooms, have we gained anything?

sue4e3

(731 posts)
65. thank you
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jul 2015

I was getting ready to say now we'll have bees that are fungi instead of just dead that's so much better

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
35. Fungal pesticides are nothing new and a patent does not mean the product is commercially viable
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:37 PM
Mar 2015

There are a number of issues with them such as...

Short shelf life
expensive to produce
Zero preventative effect (the bugs have to already be there for the product to be effective)
Time to kill can be problematic (the bugs do significant damage before they die)
Specific meteorological conditions are required (narrow range of temperature and/or humidity)

One other issue with this particular one seems to be that if it controls "over 200,000 species of insects", it's a pretty safe bet that many of those are bugs you don't want to kill.

I don't think Monsanto is going to be too worried about this.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
49. Really? farmers can control fungus and weeds with a mushroom?
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 06:32 PM
Mar 2015

I love misleading headlines.

Insecticides are just one of the three major pesticide groups used on crops. A mushroom will not eliminate the use of herbicides or fungicides.

Is this potentially good news that could reduce our use of insecticides? Maybe, hopefully. However it will absolutely NOT destroy Monsanto or eliminate GMO crops.

paleotn

(17,938 posts)
58. Exactly.....
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:40 PM
Mar 2015

..this method has significant drawbacks and is not useful at all in many situations. Thus, it WILL NOT do any damage to Monsanto.

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