Lobbyists for Spies Appointed to Oversee Spying (Lee Fang 4-9-15 The Intercept)

[bobthedrummer]

"Who's keeping watch of the National Security Agency?"
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/09/lobbyists-for-spies-appointed-to-oversee-spying

TIA became BOUNDLESS INFORMANT and we the people have seen the Bill of Rights stolen in the name of NatSec-as well as the 1st, 8th, 14th and other Amendments.

You okay with that DU???

[Blue_Tires]

1. I'll wait to read a story about the issue

that doesn't have Greenwald's biased spin on things, thank you...

He's starting to turn into a one-stringed instrument....

[Downwinder]

3. If you wait for MSM, might be a while.

[KoKo]

2. K&R

[WillyT]

4. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[bobthedrummer]

5. Why isn't the Electronic Frontier Foundation/EFF represented on any "oversight" group?

Electronic Frontier Foundation link
http://www.eff.org

Who do you think should be doing the "spying oversight" for me and you???

[bobthedrummer]

6. There was a DoD Directive from last October that went into effect April 22-it is about the Under-

Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (USDI) who currently is Dr. Michael G. Vickers. Below is Cryptome's pdf of the Directive.
http://cryptome.org/dodi/2015/dodd-5143-01.pdf

Stephen Cambone held that office for awhile during the installed criminal administration of G.W.Bush et al.
Stephen Cambone (RightWeb profile)
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Cambone_Stephen

Prior to the 9-11 attacks of 2001 Gary Hart and others were putting together a 21st Century National Security group for the Clinton administration in 1998. Take a long hard look at the Source Watch entry about this group, specifically who was part of it.

United States Commission on National Security/21st Century (The Center for Media and Democracy/SourceWatch)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/U.S._Commission_on_National_Security/21st_Century

I don't feel secure at all, do you??

[bananas]

7. Wait - is TIA now GAO or BOUNDLESS INFORMANT?

GAO used to mean "Government Accountablity Office", now it means "Global Access Operations".

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/06/meet-boundless-informant-the-nsas-secret-tool-for-tracking-global-surveillance-data/276686/

Meet 'Boundless Informant,' the NSA's Secret Tool for Tracking Global Surveillance Data
New insights into the security agency's tracking of phone and computer information from around the world
Megan Garber Jun 9, 2013

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Information_Awareness

Total Information Awareness (TIA) was a program of the US Information Awareness Office. It was operated from February until May 2003, before being renamed as the Terrorism Information Awareness Program.[4][5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Reconnaissance_Office

A 1996 bipartisan commission report described the NRO as having by far the largest budget of any intelligence agency, and "virtually no federal workforce", accomplishing most of its work through "tens of thousands" of defense contractor personnel.[8]

<snip>

In 2012, a McClatchy investigation found that the NRO was possibly breaching ethical and legal boundaries by encouraging its polygraph examiners to extract personal and private information from DoD personnel during polygraph tests that were purported to be limited to counterintelligence issues.[33] Allegations of abusive polygraph practices were brought forward by former NRO polygraph examiners.[34] In 2014, an inspector generals' report concluded that NRO failed to report felony admissions of child sexual abuse to law enforcement authorities. NRO obtained these criminal admissions during polygraph testing but never forwarded the information to police. NRO's failure to act in the public interest by reporting child sexual predators was first made public in 2012 by former NRO polygraph examiners.[35]

[bobthedrummer]

8. Think that we, the people will ever get our questions answered through the existing system???

On a related note here's some LBN that is quite old when you research the dark history, bananas. What government accountability is there for we, the people?

Psychologists met in secret with Bush officials to help justify torture-report (Raya Jalabi 4-30-15 The Guardian)
"Newly disclosed emails reveal American Psychological Association coordinated with officials in the CIA and White House to help ethically justify detainee program"
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/30/psychologists-bush-officials-torture-program

What next, "ethically" newspeaking???

[bobthedrummer]

9. An appeals judge has ruled that the NSA's bulk collection is illegal-too little too late judge.

An informed citizen is a requirement of democracy-which is long gone here in the land of national security.
Kick and another call for DU participation.

[bobthedrummer]

10. Kick for participation, c'mon DUers, you don't all have me on ignore...n/t

[Judi Lynn]

11. Shocking, hideous, horrendous, totally amoral way to govern. Couldn't get any lower. Rec. n/t

[bobthedrummer]

12. Here's some more, my friend. "Former Pentagon Acting IG Cashes In With No Accountability" (5-14-15

Project On Government Oversight/POGO article)
http://www.pogo.org/blog/2015/05/20150514-former-pentagon-acting-ig-cashes-in-with-no-accountability.html

[bobthedrummer]

13. Then there are former DCI's like Porter Johnston Goss who recently was "hired" by Turkey to lobby US

Turkey hires ex-CIA head for lobbying in US:Report (5-10-15 PressTV)
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/05/10/410297/Turkey-US-CIA-Director-Porter-Goss-Lobbying-Kelly-Syria

Porter Johnston Goss (The Center for Media and Democracy/SourceWatch profile)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Porter_J._Goss

This was one of the key treasonous extremists that helped build the current state of nascent FASCISM here in HOMELAND INC, right?

[bobthedrummer]

14. I wonder how many of these intelligence companies draw from the same resources as the mercenaries?

30 Most Powerful Private Security Companies in the World (1-11-14 Security Degree Hub article)
http://www.securitydegreehub.com/30-most-powerful-private-security-companies-in-the-world

Btw, if you don't like the truth, including the use of accurate titles for people that will do anything for money put me on ignore and keep your optical sensors in the security of your sphincter.
Those that love the truth are encouraged to contribute to this thread.

[Blue_Tires]

15. Funny how the Intercept writes about nothing

going on in Greenwald's backyard...They're only going through the biggest political scandal in a decade or two...

[bobthedrummer]

16. New details about the joint NSA-BND operation EIKONAL (5-28-15 Top Level Telecommunications)

http://electrospaces.blogspot.com/2015/05/new-details-about-joint-nsa-bnd.html

Tony Blair quit as ME peace envoy, lol, the 911 "commission" never got to hear from the Hamburg antiterrorist unit when they suddenly cancelled (w/o any explanation) their scheduled appearance, lol, hahahahahaha-it's so funny Blue_Tires we are dying of laughter...Freedom is on the March,lol

[Blue_Tires]

17. Wow...So Germany was a willing and eager participant?

And contrary to narrative, the NSA didn't twist their arms or coerce their compliance?

I've talked to electrospaces on twitter numerous times, and unlike the Snowald cabal, he seems like a decent sort...Not sure what that has to do with the Petrobras scandal, but good find regardless...

[bobthedrummer]

18. Who believes any of the lies from spies anymore? Joint Prioritized Effects Lists used to be called

by other titles, historically, by John Edgar Hoover, Richard Helms, local "red squads", all too often comprised of fascists, Birchers, KKK etc.

These folks are super-authoritarian top downers/provocateurs wrapped in the stars and stripes of globalists.

Expect nothing less than lies from lobbyist spies.

What are your thoughts today-DU--regarding the criminals running national security????

[bobthedrummer]

19. Some more articles that are both Good Reads and on topic in this thread

Secret loopholes drive NSA's "unrestrained surveillance" on Americans (Zack Whittaker 6-30-14 CNET article)
http://www.cnet.com/news/secret-loopholes-drive-nsas-unrestrained-surveillance-on-americans

"We don't torture"-Homeland Security Inc. does 24/7 worldwide including just down the road apiece. Don't take my word for it (it is true) take a good long tour of the website linked below. No accountability at all-yet.

Physicians for Human Rights
http://physiciansforhumanrights.org

Add to this thread citizens.

[bobthedrummer]

20. Public Law No. 114-23 USA Freedom Act of 2015 (Cryptome)

http://cryptome.org/2015/06/pl-114-23.htm

Reminds me of the passing of Public Laws and Acts during the rise of the Third Reich. IMO, a very apt comparison-what do you think???

[Doctor_J]

21. why should the spooks be any less corrupt than the rest of the government?

Rec

[bobthedrummer]

23. An unaccountable secret police state is not a democracy-is it? That's what our nation used to fight

against.

What Cold War CIA Interrogators Learned From The Nazis (2-11-14 Daily Beast excerpts of Annie Jacobsen's Operation PAPERCLIP)
http://www.dailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/11/what-cold-war-cia-interrogators-learned-from-the-nazis.html

[bobthedrummer]

22. Germany drops inquiry into claims NSA tapped Angela Merkel's phone (Ewen MacAskill 6-12-15 Guardian)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/12/germany-drops-inquiry-into-claims-nsa-tapped-angela-merkels-phone

"claims"!?!

Angela Merkel, how many former Stasi operatives are part of Germany's intelligence community?
Fwiw, we still have the Nazi influence and legacies in our intelligence community, which is not a "claim" but a fundamental fact.

[bobthedrummer]

24. "Of the Senate Intelligence Committee's 373 hearings during the Obama Administration from January

2009, 17 were open (4.6%) mostly for appointment of senior spy officials. No other hearings disclosed activities, appearances, testimonies or disagreements of the committee, effectively mutings not hearings."

Senate Spy Mutings (Cryptome 4-29-15)
http://cryptome.org/2015/04/senate-spy-mutings.pdf

There is no rule of law, or accountability for anyone anywhere in the intelligence community DU.
Let US claim that power in our name (we, the people) too!!! Since some of this secret stuff was done in OUR NAME, allegedly, by criminals and traitors.

[bobthedrummer]

25. Look at where and who paid for some of the NSA's employees that traveled to events in 2014, people.

Very interesting.

NSA 2014 Travel (Cryptome 6-17-15 pdf post)
http://cryptome.org/2015/06/nsa-travel-2014.pdf

Add to this thread, DUers.

[bobthedrummer]

26. ICYMI: Big News for Inspectors General (But Where's the VA IG?) [Michael Smallberg & Lyndie

Berryhill 6-17-15 Project On Government Oversight/POGO]
http://www.pogo.org/blog/2015/06/big-news-for-ig.html

A Key NSA Overseer's Alarming Dismissal of Surveillance Critics (Conor Friedersdorf 2-27-14 The Atlantic)
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/02/a-key-nsa-overseers-alarming-dismissal-of-surveillance-critics/284090

Does anyone think that James Clapper et. al gives a shit about the rule of law???? Even the intelligence IG's destroyed documents about capital crimes and misdemeanors-just like the hidden history that whistleblowers in the past revealed.

What do you think, DU???

[bobthedrummer]

27. DoD Special Access Program/SAP Security Manual: General Procedures (6-18-15 DoD pdf via Cryptome)

http://cryptome.org/dodi/2015/dodm-5205-07-v1.pdf

So this got to the DoD IG a few days ago. Well still torture and assassination are done in the name of we, the people on a worldwide basis indexed to arbitrary "lists". That hasn't changed at all. There is a domestic component too.

[bobthedrummer]

28. Google eavesdropping tool installed on computers without permission (Samuel Gibbs 6-23-15 Guardian)

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/23/google-eavesdropping-tool-installed-computers-without-permission

LBN not unlike a LeCarre tale, The Beast is here, isn't it people?

[bobthedrummer]

29. New Docs Raise Questions About CIA Spying Here at Home (Ashley Gorski 6-15-15 ACLU article)

http://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/new-docs-raise-questions-about-cia-spying-here-home

What questions DU you want raised about criminals running illegal domestic operations???

[bobthedrummer]

30. Department of Justice Inspector General is being effed by FBI-just like you and me, people.

Watchdog Barks for Access to FBI Records (Michael Smallberg 6-24-15 Project On Government Oversight/POGO)
http://www.pogo.org/blog/2015/06/20150624-watchdog-barks-for-access-to-fbi-records.html

An extremist, racist, self-loathing homosexual, John Edgar Hoover-yep, still effing all of US from wherever he is today with COINTELPRO eternity...

What are your views on all this authoritarian powerstruggle bs DU?

[bobthedrummer]

31. There's a DoD spy agency called the Defense Clandestine Service/DCS that the Obama administration

established. Just what we, the people don't need at all imo.

The Pentagon's Spies (The National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book 520 updated 7-6-15)
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB520-the-Pentagons-Spies