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Alan Grayson

(485 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:58 AM Jul 2015

The Euro – A Burning House With No Exit

William Hague, the U.K. Conservative opposition leader and Foreign Secretary, once referred to the euro, the European Union currency, as a “burning house with no exit.”

That sounds about right.

If Greece leaves the euro, it will suffer the tortures of the damned. And if Greece stays in the euro, it will suffer the tortures of the damned.

Listen, I love Greek tragedy as much as the next theatre-goer. Especially Sophocles. But this is ridiculous.

Consider how we came to this point. Virtually all of the world’s economies got whacked, very, very hard, by the Crash of ’08. Essentially, “aggregate demand,” the total demand for goods and services, collapsed, because much of that demand had been sustained by borrowing against wealth (think, “home equity loans,” “margin loans,” etc.), and then wealth collapsed. When aggregate demand drops, there are only four ways out of that hole:

(1) Borrow and spend (a/k/a fiscal policy).

(2) Print and spend (a/k/a monetary policy).

(3) Put everything on sale (a/k/a trade policy).

(4) Say goodbye (a/k/a emigration).

That’s it. There are no other solutions to that problem.

So let’s look at what happened to Greece after the Crash of ’08, when aggregate demand collapsed.

When Greece joined the European Community/Union in 1981, it had to agree to zero tariffs and the unencumbered movement of goods between Greece and other EC/EU members, as well as an external trade policy that is uniform throughout the EC/EU. So after the crash, Greece couldn’t impose tariffs, subsidize exports, establish import quotas, or anything like that.

Trade policy – no.

After Greece adopted the euro as its currency in 2001, it could no longer expand the money supply in order to spur domestic production. The European Central Bank had that authority, not Greece. Nor could Greece impose any capital controls to keep euros circulating within its borders. And as Greece’s economic problems deepened, capital fled the country.

Monetary policy – no.

A government accepting the euro as its currency must commit to keeping its annual budget deficit below a certain ceiling. Fair enough. But what happens if large chunks of government revenue are shipped outside the country to pay external debt, rather than circulating within the country? That just depresses aggregate demand more and more. Greece went into the Crash of ’08 with an external debt of around 300 billion euros – for a country of 11 million people. The mere interest on that debt (forget about principal) sucks an enormous amount of money up out of Greece each year, and sends it elsewhere. That made it impossible for the Greek government to borrow more money and spend it domestically, to restore aggregate demand (think “American Recovery Act”). And Greece’s creditors have insisted that the government run a “primary surplus,” meaning that net of the debt payments, the government actually removes money from the domestic economy.

Fiscal policy – no.

With no trade policy, no monetary policy and no fiscal policy, the Crash of ‘08 and the ensuing turmoil utterly crushed Greece’s aggregate demand. Gross domestic product has dropped 25% – the largest peacetime collapse in any advanced economy since the Great Depression. Unemployment in Greece was more than 25% before this month – imagine what it is now, after the banks were closed. That left desperate Greeks only one option: to leave. And, in fact, the population dropped by 1.5% in just four years. But there are very stiff barriers to exit; among other things, you have to learn a new alphabet. And the population drop further depressed aggregate demand, especially in the housing market.

Emigration – no.

John Maynard Keynes said that the government’s most important economic responsibility is to match aggregate demand to aggregate supply. Too much demand = inflation. Too much supply = unemployment. Greece simply has no tools to match that match. Domestic aggregate demand is far, far short of supply, and it’s getting worse.

The superficial problem in Greece is the external debt. The deeper problem is the relinquishment of national sovereignty, the tools that are needed to raise domestic demand and bring about an economic recovery.

And the alternative, the neologism-of-the-year “grexit,” where Greece just drops the euro? That is, in fact, the only alternative to the slow suffocation of the Greek economy. But no one wants even to think about how fiendishly complicated that might be. How do you mop up a currency that’s been sloshing around for 15 years inside your borders, and replace it with money backed by the “full faith and credit” of a bankrupt nation?

At least for Greece, the euro is one of those many, many things in life that are wonderful in theory, and horrible in practice. And the amount of pain that has been inflicted is staggering.

The house is burning. And there is no exit.

Courage,

Rep. Alan Grayson
Candidate for the U.S. Senate

“Watch out – you might get what you’re after.”

- Talking Heads, “Burning Down the House” (1983).

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The Euro – A Burning House With No Exit (Original Post) Alan Grayson Jul 2015 OP
Here's the arithmetic rogerashton Jul 2015 #1
A stupid idea, badly carried out. nt bemildred Jul 2015 #2
this is actually a pretty good, analytical piece. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #3
Why These European Countries Don't Use The Euro djean111 Jul 2015 #4
I suppose the UK ought to be thankful to George Soros. mwooldri Jul 2015 #5
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. Why These European Countries Don't Use The Euro
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 01:19 PM
Jul 2015
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/050515/why-these-european-countries-dont-use-euro.asp

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There are currently 28 nations in the European Union and of these, nine countries are not in the eurozone—the unified monetary system using the euro. Two of these countries, the United Kingdom and Denmark, are legally exempt from ever adopting the euro. All other EU countries must enter the eurozone after meeting certain criteria. Countries, however, do have the right to put off meeting the eurozone criteria and thereby postpone their adoption of the euro.

EU nations are diverse in culture, climate, population, and economy. Nations have different financial needs and challenges to address. The common currency imposes a system of central monetary policy applied uniformly. What’s good for the economy of one eurozone nation may be terrible for another. Most EU nations that have avoided the eurozone do so to maintain economic independence. Here are a few reasons why many EU nations don’t use the euro.
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Another good explanation.

As I have mentioned elsewhere, I was working in Denmark in the mid-nineties, and the Danes I worked with said they did not want their currency to be under Germany's control.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
5. I suppose the UK ought to be thankful to George Soros.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 04:17 PM
Jul 2015

The UK was briefly in the European Exchange Rate Mechanism - part of the plan to switch to the Euro. The nations currencies would trade +/- 6% of the Deutschemark. When the UK economy went south (and the German economy wasn't going the same way) there was general pressure in the currency trading market that pushed Sterling to the outer deutschemark limit. The rule was if the currency got too close, the central bank was to act accordingly (buying, or selling off pounds sterling in the case of the UK). George Soros saw this happening, and decided to short-sell the pound. He was selling them faster than the Bank of England could buy them. Jacking up the interest rate from 10% to 12% in a day, and then a promise of 15% later on the same day didn't tempt currency traders to buy pounds. Essentially, the UK was forced to in essence de-value the pound, leave the ERM and in turn leave the path toward the Euro.

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