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Demeter

(85,373 posts)
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:01 AM Aug 2015

The Philosopher of Surveillance: ARE YOU THE SOCRATES of the National Security Agency?

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/08/11/surveillance-philosopher-nsa/

That was the question the NSA asked its workforce in a memo soliciting applications for an in-house ethicist who would write a philosophically minded column about signals intelligence. The column, which would be posted on a classified network at the NSA, should be absorbing and original, the memo said, asking applicants to submit a sample to show they had what it takes to be the “Socrates of SIGINT.”

In 2012, the column was given to an analyst in the Signals Intelligence Directorate who wrote that initially he opposed the government watching everyone but came around to total surveillance after a polygraph exam did not go well. In a turn of events that was half-Sartre and half-Blade Runner, he explained that he was sure he failed the polygraph because the examiner did not know enough about his life to understand why at times the needle jumped.

“One of the many thoughts that continually went through my mind was that if I had to reveal part of my personal life to my employer, I’d really rather reveal all of it,” he wrote. “Partial revelation, such as the fact that answering question X made my pulse quicken, led to misunderstandings.”


He was fully aware of his statement’s implications.

“I found myself wishing that my life would be constantly and completely monitored,” he continued. “It might seem odd that a self-professed libertarian would wish an Orwellian dystopia on himself, but here was my rationale: If people knew a few things about me, I might seem suspicious. But if people knew everything about me, they’d see they had nothing to fear. This is the attitude I have brought to SIGINT work since then.”


SO, ONE DELUSIONAL AND NEUROTIC SUFFERER OF PSTD GIVES GREEN LIGHT TO THE ALL-SEEING, ALL-FORGIVING, ALL-UNDERSTANDING NANNY STATE?

DOESN'T HE UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THEORY OF AN ALL-SEEING GOD, BENEVOLENT, WISE AND FORGIVING, AND THE MAFIA-ORGANIZED NATION STATES OF TODAY?
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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
3. Fixed ......Jeez, he comes off fairly pathological
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:20 AM
Aug 2015

pathological

: extreme in a way that is not normal or that shows an illness or mental problem



pathetically.

causing or evoking pity, sympathetic sadness, sorrow


marble falls

(57,083 posts)
7. I find him pathetic as in: "That's pathetic." His pathology I'll leave to the therapist he sorely...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:32 AM
Aug 2015

needs.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
8. Man...talk about advocating for an angry parent state
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:39 AM
Aug 2015

I want a state of equals, not someplace where we allow a small group of people to judge if we are worthy to be spared the wrath of "God."

They really are creating a different kind of world.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
10. despite what Philip Pullman may have you believe, us subversive Papists sing about
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:26 PM
Aug 2015

Adam and Eve's "felix culpa" every Easter: not just 'cuz it gave us that nice Jewish mensch-God, but because us Fallen mortals by our own natures can't grasp anything like divine power and that's extremely good (remember, omnipotence doesn't mean "having a really, really big amount of power," just like "eternity" has nothing to do with time)

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
12. I'm just spinning off your OP's last sentence (but it wouldn't be the first time a state
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:05 PM
Aug 2015

had delusions of godhood)

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
13. I didn't know there still were subversive Papists
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:09 PM
Aug 2015

I thought the previous Pope excommunicated them.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
14. but all Papists are subversive, don't'cha know? that was a big, serious worry among many liberals
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:15 PM
Aug 2015

when JFK took office: they seriously worried that he'd hand over the country to John XXIII
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Blanshard
https://archive.org/stream/freethinkerspict00hest#page/22/mode/2up

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
15. I meant subversive to Mother Church!
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:18 PM
Aug 2015

Not to the Constitution!

Frankly, I'd rather have this country turn to this Pope than to any bankster or CEO or hedge fund, or any other Pope ever alive.

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