Everyone Wrote Off The Syrian Army. Take Another Look Now
All this is only the beginning of Mr Putins adventure in the Middle EastBy Robert Fisk
October 18, 2015 "Information Clearing House" - "The Independent" - While the world still rages on at Russias presumption in the Middle East to intervene in Syria instead of letting the Americans decide which dictators should survive or die weve all been forgetting the one institution in that Arab land which continues to function and protect the state which Moscow has decided to preserve: the Syrian army. While Russia has been propagandising its missiles, the Syrian military, undermanned and undergunned a few months ago, has suddenly moved on to the offensive. Earlier this year, we may remember, this same army was being written off, the Bashar al-Assad government said to be reaching its final days.
We employed our own army of clichés to make the case for regime change. The Syrian army was losing ground at Jisr al-Shugour and at Palmyra and so we predicted that the whole Assad state had reached a tipping point.
Then along came Vladimir Putin with his air and missile fleets and suddenly the whole place is transformed. While we huffed and puffed that the Russians were bombing the moderate rebels moderates who had earlier ceased to exist according to Americas top generals weve been paying no attention to the military offensive which the Syrians themselves are now staging against the Nusra Front fighters around Aleppo and in the valley of the Orontes.
Syrian commanders are now setting the coordinates for almost every Russian air strike. They were originally giving between 200 and 400 coordinates a night. Now the figure sometimes reaches 800. Not that the Russians are going after every map reference, of course. The Syrians have found that the Russians do not want to fire at targets in built-up areas; they intend to leave burning hospitals and dead wedding parties to the Americans in Afghanistan. This policy could always change, of course. No air force bombs countries without killing civilians. Nor without crossing other peoples frontiers.
But the Russians are now telling the Turks and by logical extension, this information must go to the Americans their flight coordinates. Even more remarkable, they have set up a hotline communications system between their base on the Syrian Mediterranean coast and the Israeli ministry of defence in Tel Aviv. More incredible still is that the Israelis who have a habit of targeting Syrian and Iranian personnel near the Golan Heights have suddenly disappeared from the skies. In other words, the Russians are involved in a big operation, not a one-month wonder that is going on in Syria. And it is likely to continue for quite a time.
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article43184.htm
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)nothing to see here
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Better drop a dime to my handler I suppose...
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)truth2power
(8,219 posts)Sure adds a lot to the discussion.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)(see sig)
Once juries started letting stuff like that go, it's been open war as far as I'm concerned...
truth2power
(8,219 posts)Dismissing an article on the basis that Robt. Fisk wrote it might cause some people to think you're incapable of assessing a piece of writing on its own merits. And it's fallacious.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)without taking into the account the history of the author.
Both go hand-in-hand...
And for the record, I have a grievance with MANY DUers... But rest assured they aren't going to get rid of me, and they aren't going to shut me up.
truth2power
(8,219 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)So we're both content...
klook
(12,158 posts)This one is worth a read also:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-syrian-war-of-lies-and-hypocrisy-7985012.html
Midnight Writer
(21,770 posts)They work for Assad and their goal is to protect his regime. Why the hell would they care if their country is in total meltdown and their countrymen are being exterminated. The important thing to them is that Assad (their warlord) and his billions (along with their paychecks) are protected.
It is the same story for much of the Middle East. The soldiers have no interest in protecting a "country" that to them is an abstract concept, imposed on them by Western powers.
This is a story of primitive tribal societies that have been warring with one another for hundreds if not thousands of years who have suddenly been flooded with advanced weaponry and financial support from outside sources.
And then what happens? They kill each other with advanced efficiency. Of course. They don't give two figs about the "country" they are told they live in. That explains why 30,000 well equipped Iraqi troops throw down their arms and flee from a force of 3,000 primitive tribesmen. They have no motivation to fight. They are just as screwed no matter who wins. Endless war for as long as the sky is blue.