One of ISIS' top commanders was a 'star pupil' of US-special forces training

[PeoViejo]

http://www.businessinsider.com/omar-al-shishani-isis-commander-and-us-2015-9


One of ISIS' top commanders was a 'star pupil' of US-special forces training in the country of Georgia

Sporting a recognizable red beard and happy to pose for photos, Shishani has acted as a very public face for some of ISIS' most notorious successes.

It was Shishani who posed with the stolen US Humvees that ISIS had seized from Mosul and brought back into Syria.

And it was Shishani who had led successful ISIS military campaigns throughout Syria as well as a blitz through western Iraq that put the group within 100 miles of Baghdad.

These military successes are not simply the result of any innate military capabilities. Instead, Shishani spent years conducting military campaigns against the Russians, first as a Chechen rebel and then as a soldier in the Georgian military. During Shishani's four years in the military, from 2006 to 2010, his unit received some degree of training from American special forces units.
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[valerief]

1. The U.S. builds the wars they want. nt

[erronis]

10. Have to disagree here. We are bumbling idiots when it comes to understanding the outcomes.

We may build the wars we think we want but the unintended consequences always seem to be way outside of all the fancy prognostications of the war-makers.

Now maybe you are right if the intent is usually to cause mass damage and disruption. But even the BFEE surely couldn't be THAT evil...

[valerief]

12. Yeah, the PNACers didn't profit at all from Iraq. nt

[erronis]

13. Guess I meant the popular "we" rather than the MIPC "WE". You're right. THEY are profiteering fine.

[valerief]

14. We the sheeple are lied to from all sides at all times. We do as we're told unless we step back

and think for a minute. What we want doesn't matter in this world, only what the PTB wants.

[erronis]

11. Second reply - segment from the Guardian about our divide-and-conquer "strategies"

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq

...
In reality, US and western policy in the conflagration that is now the Middle East is in the classic mould of imperial divide-and-rule. American forces bomb one set of rebels while backing another in Syria, and mount what are effectively joint military operations with Iran against Isis in Iraq while supporting Saudi Arabia’s military campaign against Iranian-backed Houthi forces in Yemen. However confused US policy may often be, a weak, partitioned Iraq and Syria fit such an approach perfectly.
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Still, I'm not convinced that all of the IQs of the MIPC really amount to much when combined.

Still, I'm convinced it is only $s that count.

[uhnope]

15. BS. One traitor doesn't make a global conspiracy theory

The US gov has had him on its terrorist list for over a year with a $5 million reward on his head http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/05/241912.htm

[leveymg]

2. In our zeal to fuck over the Russians, we've enabled a lot of real nasties. Bin Laden was

another. But, the Cold War justifies practically anything, it never ends, and we never learn.

[niyad]

3. bin laden, this guy, the school of the americas grads-nothing like training the people who will

be your opponents.

[cantbeserious]

4. Uber War Hawkers Like HRC Enable Wars That Profit Her 1% Friends

eom

[PeoViejo]

5. Krupp did the same thing in the 19th Century

..even tried to sell rail-mounted big guns to the US Army to go after the Natives.

This is just a new generation of the same gang.

[cantbeserious]

6. It Is Increasingly Clear That HRC Must Withdraw From The 2016 Election For Her Role As A Neocon

eom

[magical thyme]

7. we have met the enemy and he is us

or at least, our MIC and neocon "leaders."

[KoKo]

18. ...!

[yurbud]

8. when you're enemy isn't stupid enough to attack you, you have to provide both sides of your war

[uhnope]

17. more CT bullshit. He's listed by the US gov as a terrorist with $5 million reward on his head

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/05/241912.htm

[yurbud]

19. so he wasn't trained by the US?

[Blue_Tires]

9. Well there's also this, but it goes against DU narrative:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/the-hidden-hand-behind-the-islamic-state-militants-saddam-husseins/2015/04/04/aa97676c-cc32-11e4-8730-4f473416e759_story.html

[yurbud]

20. apart the embarrassing title it actually makes sense

People at DU said it was stupid to disband Saddam's military.

Which narrative are you talking about?