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underpants

(182,829 posts)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 05:17 PM Nov 2015

"70% of Syrian refugees are military age males" debunked by Reason.com of all places

https://reason.com/blog/2015/09/30/no-ben-carson-and-donald-trump-the-major

Nevertheless, fear of the Muslim "military-aged male" has shot through the commentary about the refugee crisis, particularly as it concerns Europe—where at least the assertion has more statistical validity. Here's a typical recent claim, from Rep. Brian Babin (R-Texas):

Seventy percent of these people that are going into Western Europe today are military-aged males 20-30 years old. According to the UN, only 15 percent are (children) and 13 percent are women.

The most recent figures from the UNHCR about sea-born arrivals to Europe in 2015 do bear some resemblance to Babin's math: Just 13% of the nearly 521,000 transplants (of which 55% come from Syria) have indeed been female, 18% have been children, and 69% men. But note that that 69% is for all men, not those in their 20s (as in the congressman's claim), or those between 20 and 40, as you also often hear.

To repeat a point slowly, and in fewer characters: The majority of refugees from Syria to the United States has not been, is not currently, and likely will not be in the future, "military-aged males," despite the fact that around 7 out of 10 Muslim-world refugees ariving into Europe via the Mediterranean Sea are adult men. The difference in demographic composition is very likely to do with the fact U.S. refugees arrive via filling out paperwork, while EU refugees largely arrive by cramming into boats. The underlying universe of Syrian refugees is actually slightly more female. Basing U.S. policy out of fear of disproportionately military-aged males is at best a confession of ignorance.

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"70% of Syrian refugees are military age males" debunked by Reason.com of all places (Original Post) underpants Nov 2015 OP
A true republican Turbineguy Nov 2015 #1
Thank you I read that statistic here of all places. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #2
Yes. Other actual stats underpants Nov 2015 #3
That looks more like what I have seen in real life Kalidurga Nov 2015 #4
One DUer tazkcmo Nov 2015 #5
I remember reading somewhere that polly7 Nov 2015 #6
This is a pretty all inclusive article from Time underpants Nov 2015 #7
Thanks, underpants. That is a good article and much of what I remember reading, .. somewhere .. nt polly7 Nov 2015 #8

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. Thank you I read that statistic here of all places.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 05:32 PM
Nov 2015

The age, gender, race, and religion of a person is immaterial as to whether they are suffering or not. The refugees are fleeing from terrorists and/or extreme economic hardship anyone can become a victim of people who want to kill them or oppress them in the extreme.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
3. Yes. Other actual stats
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 05:39 PM
Nov 2015

Don't have links but can find them if needed.

Of the Syrian refugees the US has accepted - 50% are children 25% are over 60 2% are military aged males.
Of the 784,000 refugees accepted since 9/11/01 3 THREE have been caught trying to get involved with terrorists.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
5. One DUer
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:16 AM
Nov 2015

I saw one DUer wanting to draft all these able bodied men and send them back to Syria and fight. Not sure how that would work or under what authority they could be conscripted or even who they would be fighting...it's a mess.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
6. I remember reading somewhere that
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:33 AM
Nov 2015

most of the refugees from Syria are youths, about half of the total refugees under age 18, and two out of every five children under the age of 11. I'll try to find that article.


polly7

(20,582 posts)
8. Thanks, underpants. That is a good article and much of what I remember reading, .. somewhere .. nt
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:32 AM
Nov 2015
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