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Tace

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 01:42 PM Dec 2015

What Can Pearl Harbor Teach Us About 9/11 and Other 'Surprises?' | Mickey Z.



Mickey Z. -- World News Trust

In my 2004 book, Seven Deadly Spins, the first propaganda “spin” I decoded was “The Sleeping Giant.”

It's an excuse we all learn in childhood: "He started it" or "She hit me first." From this rudimentary alibi grows the myth of the "sleeping giant." By portraying oneself as the innocent target of an unprovoked sneak attack, all bases are covered. Translation: Once rudely awakened, don’t blame the sleeping giant if he responds a tad overzealously towards all those sneaky enemies (e.g. Native Americans, communists, Muslims).

We are fast approaching the 74th anniversary of the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941 -- the mother of all “sleeping giant” spins. The day after the attack, the sainted Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed Congress. The United States was “at peace” with Japan, he stated, yet had been “suddenly and deliberately attacked.”

However, as historian Thomas A. Bailey wrote: “Franklin Roosevelt repeatedly deceived the American people during the period before Pearl Harbor… He was like the physician who must tell the patient lies for the patient’s own good.”

The diplomatic record reveals some of what Dr. Roosevelt neglected to include in that now-mythical “Date of Infamy” speech:

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What Can Pearl Harbor Teach Us About 9/11 and Other 'Surprises?' | Mickey Z. (Original Post) Tace Dec 2015 OP
I'm sure this won't be in the new Texas history books. Wasn't in the old ones either. valerief Dec 2015 #1
To be fair, Japan was a pretty vicious imperial power during that time prouddemfromaustin44 Dec 2015 #2
as were the Nazis, but that wasn't why we fought them. We fought Germany in World War I BEFORE they yurbud Dec 2015 #4
Fair enough, I suppose prouddemfromaustin44 Dec 2015 #5
But even Bailey conceded that Japan was Blue_Tires Dec 2015 #3

valerief

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1. I'm sure this won't be in the new Texas history books. Wasn't in the old ones either.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 01:56 PM
Dec 2015

From your link:

Almost immediately, the United States, Britain, and the Netherlands instituted a total embargo on oil and scrap metal to Japan -- tantamount to a declaration of war. This was followed soon after by the United States and UK freezing all Japanese assets in their respective countries.

Radhabinod Pal, one of the judges in the post-war Tokyo War Crimes Tribunal, later argued that the United States had clearly provoked the war with Japan, calling the embargoes a “clear and potent threat to Japan’s very existence.”

Since the attack wasn’t a total surprise, you may be wondering how the Americans still managed to get caught with their pants down on Dec. 7, 1941. Again, I urge you to not underestimate the collective power of capitalism, white supremacy, and arrogance.
 
2. To be fair, Japan was a pretty vicious imperial power during that time
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:28 PM
Dec 2015

Just ask the people of Nanking. Or the rest of China. Or any part of Asia, such as Korea, the Japanese conquered and ruled over.

yurbud

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4. as were the Nazis, but that wasn't why we fought them. We fought Germany in World War I BEFORE they
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 05:49 PM
Dec 2015

were Nazis, so what are the odds that World War II had similar causes, and it just made things easier that Hitler was a genocidal dictator?

 
5. Fair enough, I suppose
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 07:52 PM
Dec 2015

However, I think it's important to provide context into why the US and its allies made the decision to impose the embargo in the first place.

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