Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:10 AM Dec 2015

How the Virgin Mary Became the World’s Most Powerful Woman

Fascinating article. Didn't know Mary was a prominent religious figure in the Islamic faith !

By Maureen Orth
Photographs by Diana Markosian
PUBLISHED NOVEMBER 8, 2015

It’s apparition time: 5:40 p.m. In a small Roman Catholic chapel in Bosnia and Herzegovina, in the village of Medjugorje, Ivan Dragicevic walks down the aisle, kneels in front of the altar, bows his head for a moment, and then, smiling, lifts his gaze heavenward. He begins to whisper, listens intently, whispers again, and doesn’t blink for ten minutes. His daily conversation with the Virgin Mary has begun.

Dragicevic was one of six poor shepherd children who first reported visions of the Virgin Mary in 1981. She identified herself to the four girls and two boys as the “Queen of Peace” and handed down the first of thousands of messages admonishing the faithful to pray more often and asking sinners to repent. Dragicevic was 16 years old, and Medjugorje, then in communist-controlled Yugoslavia, had yet to emerge as a hub of miracle cures and spiritual conversions, attracting 30 million pilgrims during the past three decades.

Picture of two boys near the water
Water May Erase These Pacific Islands, But Not the Culture
Picture of a leopard prowling the edge of Sanjay Gandhi National Park in Mumbai, India
Learning to Live With Leopards
I’m in Medjugorje with a group of Americans, mostly hockey dads from the Boston area, plus two men and two women with stage 4 cancer. We’re led by 59-year-old Arthur Boyle, a father of 13, who first came here on Labor Day weekend in 2000, riddled with cancer and given months to live. He felt broken and dejected and wouldn’t have made the trip had not two friends forced him into it. But that first night, after he went to confession at St. James the Apostle church, psychological relief
came rapidly.
Continue -
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2015/12/virgin-mary-text

-----

Islam portal. v. Mary (Arabic: مريم‎ Maryām), the mother of Jesus (Isa), is considered one of the most righteous women in the Islamic religion. She is mentioned more in the Quran than in the entire New Testament and is also the only woman mentioned by name in the Quran.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_in_Islam

8 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
How the Virgin Mary Became the World’s Most Powerful Woman (Original Post) Lodestar Dec 2015 OP
Such is the power of religious delusion that as we enter 2016 stopbush Dec 2015 #1
I believe - it brings me great comfort. 840high Dec 2015 #2
Read your ancient history SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #5
Agreed. The entire virgin birth myth in the NT is the result of stopbush Dec 2015 #7
Two of the three major monotheistic BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #3
Religion will, ultimately, be the downfall of modern civilization. Ferretherder Dec 2015 #4
Guadalupe Tanuki Dec 2015 #6
As with any article about religion there will Dr. Xavier Dec 2015 #8

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
1. Such is the power of religious delusion that as we enter 2016
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:48 AM
Dec 2015

people still believe in the make believe of fictional characters like Mary and Jesus.

Our species needs to grow up.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
5. Read your ancient history
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:17 PM
Dec 2015

Virgin birth caused by conception from a god's visit was a staple of Greek and Roman literature, and a common practice for "good girls" who wanted to deny how they came to be with child (or with god-baby).
Thomas Jefferson said he hoped the day would come soon that the "miracle of the virgin birth" would be viewed the same as Zeus's daughter springing to life fully formed from his head. That's why he transcribed the "Jefferson Bible," which had all the good moral and ethical lessons without what he called the "magic and superstition."

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
3. Two of the three major monotheistic
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 07:16 AM
Dec 2015

faiths include Mary. All three faiths have much more in common than not.

All "borrowed" from and built upon earlier faiths, e.g., the Egyptian pantheon, among others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_deities




Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
4. Religion will, ultimately, be the downfall of modern civilization.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 07:55 AM
Dec 2015

All of the knowledge the human race has aquired over the millenia - scientific breakthroughs, medical advancement, philosophical truths and practices...the very things that have led to the foundation of modern cooperative culture - may not be able to overcome our species greatest fear...blind, ignorant, abject terror of that from whence we emerged..............oblivion.

Religion is the most potent weapon on the face of this planet...able to move entire nations to rise up against other nations...a seemingly unstoppable force that all of humankind's logic and reason is unable to cause to even momentarily falter.

...and, I think it will, ultimately, be the doom of our species.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
6. Guadalupe
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 03:01 PM
Dec 2015

...."Certain images and stories of the Virgin Mary are so powerful they help define a country. That’s the case with Our Lady of Guadalupe, whose image on the tilma, or cloak, of a poor Indian man gave rise, in 1531, to Mexican identity. Anyone witnessing the outpouring of love and devotion that pilgrims demonstrate for their beloved Madre on the days leading up to the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe—broadcast live throughout the country on December 12—can see that the Virgin Mary is deeply embedded in Mexican hearts and souls.

Her image was what Mexicans carried into their war against Spain for independence in 1810 and their internal revolution in 1910. César Chávez marched with her banner in his fight to unionize farmworkers in California in the 1960s. Our Lady of Guadalupe conferred instant benediction on the once despised mestizo children of Spaniards and Indians. She is the symbol of la raza, the definition of what it means to be Mexican, and because of Our Lady of Guadalupe, Mexicans have always believed they’re special." (from the link in the OP)

[img][/img]

Dr. Xavier

(278 posts)
8. As with any article about religion there will
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 06:17 PM
Dec 2015

be those non-believers, who don't understand the significance of the need for belief in others. Genome scientists have even found a religiosity gene. I believe because my faith in God and my fellow man is what drives me everyday to do the best I can for my clients. In the late 1800's there was a 2nd rate French Philosopher, Denis Diedorot, who once said: "Man will never be free until the entrails of the last priest are forced down the throat of the last king."
Diedorot was wrong because he didn't realize that we create our own gods and our own devils, we need to have someone else to go to when we are faced with our deepest fears and our greatest feats, because deep down inside we don't understand that we are both, good and evil. And we don't want to believe that we can do the things we do to our fellow human beings because to admit it would be to admit that we are only human.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Editorials & Other Articles»How the Virgin Mary Becam...