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JohnWxy

(6,506 posts)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 06:40 PM Feb 2012

Issa Defends Denying Female Witness At Contraception Hearing: She ‘Wasn’t In Any Way Related’

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/02/17/427833/issa-defends-all-male-panel/

House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) defended his decision to not allow a women to testify at his hearing on the Obama administration’s new birth control rule yesterday, telling Fox News host Greta Van Susteren last night that the woman’s story wasn’t at all relevant to the hearing.

Democrats had originally planned to have Rev. Barry Lynn, a prominent supporter of the separation of Church and State, testify, but decided that a woman’s voice was needed, as every single other witness was a man. They tried bring in someone who has been personally affected by the issue — Sandra Fluke, a law student at Georgetown, which is affiliated with the Catholic Church and does not insure birth control for students — but Issa refused.

Appearing on Fox News with host Greta Van Susteren last night, Issa defended the decision, saying Fluke was unqualified to speak and that her first hand experience “wasn’t in any way related” to the issue at hand:


ISSA: They then wanted a different witness, a college student, who really didn’t belong on that panel for obvious reasons. [...]

She had a compelling story, a very sad story of a classmate who developed an ovarian cyst that might have been prevented by using contraception in another way, one that by the way, the Catholic bishop and everyone else there said is fully allowed, under their faith. But it was one of those things where her story was compelling, but it wasn’t in any way related to the point of the stated reason for hearing.


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Issa Defends Denying Female Witness At Contraception Hearing: She ‘Wasn’t In Any Way Related’ (Original Post) JohnWxy Feb 2012 OP
I hate him. nt valerief Feb 2012 #1
+1 robg6255si Feb 2012 #19
I hate him too MsLeopard Feb 2012 #23
+1 n/t kdmorris Feb 2012 #26
Geezzz, I hate him also. Stellar Feb 2012 #40
Issa is actually beneath contempt. NoQuarter Feb 2012 #42
He's worth hating for the power he holds over our lives and abuses. nt valerief Feb 2012 #48
There are lots of female ministers the GOP could have invited. tanyev Feb 2012 #2
The leader of the Catholic Health Association, a network of hospitals, is a woman. pnwmom Feb 2012 #5
This bozo couldn't have pissed off more women in the last few days if he'd tried really, really hard Magoo48 Feb 2012 #3
bozo issa continually pizzes me off--- la la Feb 2012 #7
Why should women have to say WHY they are using contraception? HockeyMom Feb 2012 #4
Yeah! And not much privacy getting one of those ultrasounds. Auntie Bush Feb 2012 #12
I guess having a woman on the panel probably wouldn't add any credibilty to a conservanazi argument. TxVietVet Feb 2012 #6
issa, you are one incredibly stupid prick. women "are not in any way related "???? it is OUR niyad Feb 2012 #8
No, he was right... caraher Feb 2012 #21
What a tiny little man Iliyah Feb 2012 #9
Maybe not related to the only way he'll ever have sex again... by himself. Fearless Feb 2012 #10
The person with a uterus... Zookeeper Feb 2012 #11
time to re-dig up the dirt on this criminal who was involved in arson & other crimes wordpix Feb 2012 #13
problem is, the controlled MSM is not talking about his criminal crunch60 Feb 2012 #18
A great point! (deserves it's own thread) Bill USA Feb 2012 #49
Can someone explain this one to me? Contrary1 Feb 2012 #14
The same hormones JerseygirlCT Feb 2012 #16
No rhythm method! Sex is only for procreation. tclambert Feb 2012 #22
It is less of a sin for priests to RC Feb 2012 #39
This was supposed to be about religious freedom? justgamma Feb 2012 #15
Wow... chervilant Feb 2012 #17
Please, CA, please - do not re-elect this POS! eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2012 #20
unfortunately shanti Feb 2012 #29
The GOP want to make this abour religious freedom Thor_MN Feb 2012 #24
Also worth noting Alcibiades Feb 2012 #25
+1. n/t Zookeeper Feb 2012 #30
This should infuriate unionworks Feb 2012 #27
I'm not happy about the 'framing' of this by anyone, elleng Feb 2012 #28
And Bill Maher has this moron on his show ... (nt) TownDrunk2 Feb 2012 #31
"unqualified to speak" is, ironically, a pretty good description ... surrealAmerican Feb 2012 #32
Issa is the one that doesn't belong! HE is the one who is irrelevant in this conversation! October Feb 2012 #33
Middle aged men at it again LiveNudePolitics Feb 2012 #34
The Real Reason for the Hearing RebelCarol Feb 2012 #35
You are wrong. The ultimate goal, as with most repukes events, is to efhmc Feb 2012 #36
The hearing is political Evergreen Emerald Feb 2012 #37
Well said. efhmc Feb 2012 #38
Yes and the Civil War wasn't about slavery either so stop saying that it was! yellowcanine Feb 2012 #44
wrong...republicons claimed the hearing was about "religious freedom" noiretextatique Feb 2012 #46
Grr..."defended his decision to not allow a women.." Heddi Feb 2012 #41
Then there should have been a non-believer who works at a Catholic insitution sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #43
Goodness. Balance on "his" panel. What are you thinking? efhmc Feb 2012 #45
This guy makes empty lot Used Car salemen look like upstanding and above the board WCGreen Feb 2012 #47
Spam deleted by Morning Dew (MIR Team) wzwonderful Mar 2012 #50

NoQuarter

(577 posts)
42. Issa is actually beneath contempt.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:53 AM
Feb 2012

Not worthy of taking any place in my thoughts. From the moment Ahnuld entered the California Gov race, Issa has been on a hysterical quest for attention and relevance.

tanyev

(42,634 posts)
2. There are lots of female ministers the GOP could have invited.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 06:46 PM
Feb 2012

But probably none that could have been relied upon to spew forth the GOP talking points.

pnwmom

(109,001 posts)
5. The leader of the Catholic Health Association, a network of hospitals, is a woman.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:11 PM
Feb 2012

But she supports Obama's compromise plan, so they wouldn't invite her.

Magoo48

(4,721 posts)
3. This bozo couldn't have pissed off more women in the last few days if he'd tried really, really hard
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 06:48 PM
Feb 2012

Sadly, I doubt he comprehends what all the fuss is about.

la la

(1,855 posts)
7. bozo issa continually pizzes me off---
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:17 PM
Feb 2012

and he should get the publicity he so wants---so all can see what a capital B Bozo he is!


( i remember him crying when he didn't get to take the CA Governership when he spent a fortune getting Gray Davis recalled - issa is a putz)

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
4. Why should women have to say WHY they are using contraception?
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:07 PM
Feb 2012

It is nobody's business except hers, her doctors, and certainly not the Catholic Church, or old men in DC.

Why does the WORLD have to know ANY of our medical history?????? PRIVACY, PRIVACY, PRIVACY.

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
6. I guess having a woman on the panel probably wouldn't add any credibilty to a conservanazi argument.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:16 PM
Feb 2012

Issa is a fucking conservanazi prick.

niyad

(113,600 posts)
8. issa, you are one incredibly stupid prick. women "are not in any way related "???? it is OUR
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:21 PM
Feb 2012

bodies you jackasses are discussing, under the guise of "separation of church and state", OUR BODIES, OUR LIVES.

by the way, let us never forget that this bastard is responsible for giving us herr gropenator.

caraher

(6,279 posts)
21. No, he was right...
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 06:58 AM
Feb 2012

For Issa, the "issue at hand" was advancing a bogus narrative about how providing reproductive health services is an affront to religious liberty. The testimony of a woman about the value of such services clearly does not promote that narrative, and therefore can only be deemed "not in any way related."

Oh, and I must add...

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
9. What a tiny little man
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:36 PM
Feb 2012

seriously, she, a female, a vagina, doesn't relate? This BS is not about religion, and yes, these religious so called churches need to be taxed to hell!

Zookeeper

(6,536 posts)
11. The person with a uterus...
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:47 PM
Feb 2012

is unqualified to speak at an all-male hearing on contraception.

That's special.

Issa is self-serving little ass.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
13. time to re-dig up the dirt on this criminal who was involved in arson & other crimes
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:53 PM
Feb 2012

He should be out on his ass and on the street looking for a job, instead of chairing a Congressional hearing

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
18. problem is, the controlled MSM is not talking about his criminal
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 04:04 AM
Feb 2012

past. That is something I would like to hear more about.

Issa's Criminal Past..

Prior To Fire, Issa "Boosted" Fire Insurance And Removed A Computer From The Premises.
snip:

Rep. Darrell Issa's past includes arrests for weapons charges and auto theft, suspicions of arson, and accusations of intimidation with a gun, but you'd hardly know it from the media's recent coverage of the new chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. While Issa was substantially mentioned in 15 articles in the nation's largest newspapers since the last election -- including several major profiles -- only one of those articles mentioned any of these allegations. Likewise, interviewers did not ask Issa about his alleged criminal past in any of the cable or network interviews he sat for during that period.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201101110034

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
14. Can someone explain this one to me?
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 09:41 PM
Feb 2012

"...an ovarian cyst that might have been prevented by using contraception in another way, one that by the way, the Catholic bishop and everyone else there said is fully allowed, under their faith."

What the hell does this refer to? Holding a birth control pill between her knees? I thought the only BC allowed by the Catholic Church was the rhythm method, which as far as I'm concerned, should also be included in their ridiculous view of contraception.

JerseygirlCT

(17,384 posts)
16. The same hormones
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:30 PM
Feb 2012

that work as contraceptives are also effective in combating hormonal disorders, such as polycystic ovarian syndrome.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
22. No rhythm method! Sex is only for procreation.
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:02 AM
Feb 2012

Having sex and trying to avoid pregnancy is a SIN! No exceptions! (Except for certain priests.)

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
39. It is less of a sin for priests to
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 07:47 PM
Feb 2012

molest boys, than it is for them to have sex with an willing, of age woman.

That is also why they refuse to let priest marry and continue cover up the pedophile scandals.
The definition for 'pervert' comes to mind.

justgamma

(3,667 posts)
15. This was supposed to be about religious freedom?
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:21 PM
Feb 2012

Did he invite any Muslim leaders? Was he one of the people going apeshit over a Mosque being built? Creep.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
24. The GOP want to make this abour religious freedom
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 11:17 AM
Feb 2012

Which is a ridiculous notion, but they know that it the only arguement they can use and not get tossed on the scrapheap. If it becomes being about banning contraception, they are history.

In terms of religious freedom, you are free to do almost anything in your church, acting as a church. When your chuch is claiming to be acting as a hospital, daycare, school, etc, it is NOT a church. Companies have no religious freedoms. Corporations have no First Amendment rights.

If you want to claim your business is a church and you have relgious freedoms, turn you funding into freewill offerings and we might consider it. If you are billing for services, you are not a church.

Alcibiades

(5,061 posts)
25. Also worth noting
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 11:52 AM
Feb 2012

The all male panel was composed of a preacher, a priest, a rabbi, an evangelical ethics professor at a Baptist Bible college in Texas, and an evangelical ethics professor at a different southern Baptist bible college in Tennessee: the panel was so diverse that both of the these last two have the surname "Mitchell."

If only they had walked into a bar, this would be a joke.

 

unionworks

(3,574 posts)
27. This should infuriate
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 03:28 PM
Feb 2012

All women, Democrats and progressives to make sure this shitweasel gets thrown out on his ass next election.

elleng

(131,182 posts)
28. I'm not happy about the 'framing' of this by anyone,
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 03:36 PM
Feb 2012

Issa, VanSusterin, TP, or DU, just as to this particular hearing. What WAS the 'stated reason for the hearing?'
We mustn't enable them to trample on us by failing to be clear ourselves. We obviously are correct, and at every point we must provide space for full discussion. IMO.

surrealAmerican

(11,364 posts)
32. "unqualified to speak" is, ironically, a pretty good description ...
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 06:37 PM
Feb 2012

... of Darrell Issa, and yet, he won't shut up.

LiveNudePolitics

(285 posts)
34. Middle aged men at it again
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 09:27 PM
Feb 2012

Middle aged men, particularly clerics are not qualified to bear witness on women's health issues, as evidenced by the farce that ensued. We need to mobilize and get these panderers to the noisy religious right, right out of office!! Check out what they've gotten up to in Virginia: http://livenudepolitics.com/2012/02/18/virginian-womens-rights-undermined-or-virginia-mindand-places/

 

RebelCarol

(1 post)
35. The Real Reason for the Hearing
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 11:37 PM
Feb 2012

The hearing was not about the use of contraceptions. The hearing was to ascertain the constitutionality of Obama mandating a private business (in this case insurance companies) to provide a service. It was in no way a hearing on birth control. Issa was right, the college student testifying was in no way related to the hearing.

efhmc

(14,732 posts)
36. You are wrong. The ultimate goal, as with most repukes events, is to
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 12:11 PM
Feb 2012

gain control over women's reproductive organs.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,071 posts)
37. The hearing is political
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 12:47 PM
Feb 2012

The reason for the hearing is the continuing effort by the Republicans to gain back the power they lost when they destroyed the economy during the Bush era.

They are throwing as much crap against Obama to see what sticks--even if they know it is a lie. They all know that many republican governors happily signed the very same concept into law (including Romney).

It is not about religion. They are using women's bodies as throw-away props (their daughters, wives, mothers).

And a couple of more things
1. There is as much freedom of religion as there is freedom FROM religion. Our government is secular. We are not the equivalent of Iran--a religious nation.

2. The religious entities enjoy exclusion from the requirements of public entities. But in this case, the religious entities are crossing the public / private line by entering into the public arena. And, once they cross that line, they must abide by the same public laws as every other business. This is not--and never has been-about religion.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
46. wrong...republicons claimed the hearing was about "religious freedom"
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:09 PM
Feb 2012

and that woman was more than qualified to testify about the effects of so-called "religious freedom" on women's healthcare choices.
"Sandra Fluke, a law student at Georgetown, which is affiliated with the Catholic Church and does not insure birth control for students"

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
41. Grr..."defended his decision to not allow a women.."
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:02 PM
Feb 2012

WomEn is plural (there are three women in the room)
WomAn is singular (look at that woman walking down the street)

The correct way of writing it would have been 'defended his decision to not allow a womAn"

Editorial standards are non-existent these days

sinkingfeeling

(51,479 posts)
43. Then there should have been a non-believer who works at a Catholic insitution
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:29 AM
Feb 2012

on th panel to relate how the church's beliefs are overriding their personal beliefs.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
47. This guy makes empty lot Used Car salemen look like upstanding and above the board
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:26 PM
Feb 2012

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