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silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
Sun May 8, 2016, 05:04 PM May 2016

We can’t vote for either one: On world stage, Clinton and Trump present different, but serious,

SUNDAY, MAY 8, 2016 05:59 AM EDT

We can’t vote for either one: On world stage, Clinton and Trump present different, but serious, dangers

It is pathetically impossible to determine which one would be worse, the only metric we have left. It's OK to pass

PATRICK L. SMITH

As of this past week Americans voters have their choices in November—all three of them. I do not see them as nearly as clear or simple as a lot of people might have imagined even a little while ago. The exception is the third of these alternatives, the right to remain silent—a phrase ordinarily used in another context but perfectly correct in this one. This position seems to have just gotten a great deal clearer, if not simpler.

In my read, the race between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton as it now shapes up does not present voters with anything like an obvious choice. Neither does it seem certain at this moment which of two candidates unworthy of election—let us speak honestly—will triumph. Nor can one say which of the two would be worse, and this, pathetically, is the metric now establishing itself in many voters’ minds.

As a quick aside, it truly tells us a lot, doesn’t it, that Clinton can bring a record of service decades in length and still face a serious challenge from Donald Trump. Every time she tells her mobs of supporters, “This is going to be a tough fight,” I think how shameful a fact this is. Madame Secretary, I reflect, looks a lot better in the television series, risible as it is. Téa Leone, with her whiskey voice, her greeting-card compassion and her ritualized moral ambivalence as she executes our dishonorable foreign policies, somehow manages to come over more persuasively.

What a moment.

more: http://www.salon.com/2016/05/08/we_cant_vote_for_either_one_on_world_stage_clinton_and_trump_present_different_but_serious_dangers/

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We can’t vote for either one: On world stage, Clinton and Trump present different, but serious, (Original Post) silvershadow May 2016 OP
It IS a nightmare. pangaia May 2016 #1
Painful writing Depaysement May 2016 #2
It is painful. nt silvershadow May 2016 #5
President Clinton SCantiGOP May 2016 #3
Fascinating Read...He makes some very interesting arguments KoKo May 2016 #4
"I shall stamp my foot and hold my breath and turn blue!" struggle4progress May 2016 #6
Some may? nothing you can do about it but live with it. nt silvershadow May 2016 #7
That's how I look at it. Whichever one wins, Trump or Hillary, things will get worse. Hoppy May 2016 #8

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
4. Fascinating Read...He makes some very interesting arguments
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:59 PM
May 2016

both for, and against, both candidates. And...the other choice.

Thanks!

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
8. That's how I look at it. Whichever one wins, Trump or Hillary, things will get worse.
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:39 PM
May 2016

I don't know how, or why: I just know.

With Bernie, things would not have gotten better. But they would not have gotten worse.

And that itself is a sorry state of affairs, that in any scenario, things would not have improved.

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