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Purveyor

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Fri May 27, 2016, 06:04 PM May 2016

MPs Warn Voters Being 'Conned' As Brussels Keeps Plans For EU Army Secret Until After Referendum

Ben Riley-Smith, political correspondent
27 MAY 2016 • 12:33AM

British voters are being “conned” by Brussels officials who are keeping plans for a European army secret until after the referendum, leading Tories have claimed.

Liam Fox, the former defence secretary who served under David Cameron, told The Telegraph that the ambitions showed the EU is wedded to the “dangerous fantasy” of creating a single defence force.

Another eurosceptic Tory MP said voters were being “deceived” and “hoodwinked” about the true scale of the EU’s drive to create a single army.

The backlash came as it emerged plans to move towards the creation of a European army are being kept secret from British voters until the day after next month’s referendum.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/26/plans-to-create-an-eu-army-kept-secret-from-voters/

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MPs Warn Voters Being 'Conned' As Brussels Keeps Plans For EU Army Secret Until After Referendum (Original Post) Purveyor May 2016 OP
This is a scare story direct from the "Vote Leave" campaign T_i_B May 2016 #1

T_i_B

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1. This is a scare story direct from the "Vote Leave" campaign
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:43 AM
May 2016

Which, as you would expect from the hard right politicians in "Vote leave" is rather short on facts.

http://infacts.org/times-overshoots-eu-army-plans/

Contrary to what the Times headline shouts, the proposal appears to fall well short of plans to create an “EU army” under unified EU command. Describing what it calls ‘steps towards creating a European Army,’ the Times article quotes the draft as urging the EU to “step up its contribution to Europe’s security and defence”, and for a more joined-up foreign policy. According to the Times, proposals include “new European military and operational structures, including a headquarters.”

The Times article quotes a spokesman for the author of the plan, EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini, as saying it would “in no way aim to set up the EU army”. It goes on to say: “Mogherini shared British suspicions of creating European military structures and had a preference for “soft power”, noting that economic sanctions against Russia showed Europe’s best role. She would rather use treaty clauses to let groups of EU states pursue military operations with the blessing of the rest of the EU, a mechanism Britain does not oppose.”

The Times article doesn’t offer much support for the assertion in its headline, and any threat of the UK being dragged into an army project it doesn’t support is far off the mark. Not only can the UK veto EU foreign policy decisions, but any decision on common defence or an EU army would also require another UK referendum.

That does not stop other member states from deciding to press ahead on their own – without UK participation. Liam Fox’s allegation, quoted in the article, that we might be “dragged into a permanent EU military force” has no merit. If anything, Brexit would make it more likely that other EU states choose to go ahead with military proposals.

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