Most top colleges do not require students majoring in history to take U.S. history class
Most top colleges do not require students majoring in history to take U.S. history class
Kate Hardiman - University of Notre Dame July 4, 2016
As Americans mark Independence Day, a time to remember and honor the nations founding, a new report reveals that most top U.S. colleges view teaching students how and why this country was founded as nonessential even for history majors.
Fewer than one-third of the nations leading universities require history majors to take a single course in U.S. history, according to No U.S. History? How College History Departments Leave the United States out of the Major.
The report, recently published by the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, warns that the results are seen in todays young people, who often show ignorance of historical facts and are willing to give up constitutional freedoms: Historical illiteracy is the inevitable consequence of lax college requirements, and that ignorance leads to civic disempowerment.
ACTA, an independent, nonprofit organization that works to uphold academic freedom, excellence and accountability, found in its survey that only 23 undergraduate history programs at U.S. News & World Reports top 76 universities require any type of U.S. history course.
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Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)First I learned about the Texan Rebellion and the North American Invasion.
Then I came to the US and had to learn about the Texas War of Independence, and the Mexican American War.
It was very interesting to learn about those conflicts from two radically different perspectives.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)titles from the different perspectives. It does help to visit/live outside one's own country to understand a lot more about how it is perceived.
For another view of Texan history, there is an excellent book, Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History. You can find it on Amazon and here is the Good Reads review: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7648269-empire-of-the-summer-moon
It is a fascinating read, first about Comanche history, and second how the Mexicans realized that they could not advance any further north in part because of them. In fact, per the book one reason settlement of "Yankees" in Texas was encouraged by Mexico was to create a "buffer" zone between Mexico proper and the Comanches.
One settler group was the Parker family. After the massacre at their settlement, Cynthia, who was 10, was kidnapped and adopted into a Comanche war band, married a war chief and became the mother of the last Comanche war chief, Quanah Parker. She was found, age 34, but could not readjust to white society. She basically starved herself to death. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Ann_Parker
The novel and film "The Searchers" are loosely based on her story. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Searchers_(film)
You likely already know this. But I found it fascinating, as I basically find learning about ALL history fascinating.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)I do love history and especially reading it from multiple perspectives.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)especially Empire. It is absolutely fascinating!
Having been born and raised in the West, I have tried to educate myself about our shameful treatment of Native Americans. Most books I have found deal with other tribes. This is the first in-depth study of the Comanches that I have found. They were truly formidable warriors. There is also some fascinating information about the Texas Rangers.
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)elleng
(130,964 posts)and that, I suspect, is from whence the ignorance arises.
Igel
(35,317 posts)Meaning, I guess, they don't have to take calculus, complex analysis, and differential equations in college. That'll make the engineering programs easier.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)we learned smatterings of history, both US and World History, in grade school. That is when I first heard the name "Mesopotamia." I also remember learning about the various Egyptian, Babylonian, Greek, Roman and Norse gods and being fascinated by mythology in my fifth and sixth grades. We studied more in middle school.
In high school, I had one course in World History (very badly taught, IMO) and another in US History, mostly concentrating on the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries. But, of course, I attended high school in the late 50s-early 60s. When I went to university, I wasn't even a history major, but a US History course was a requirement for graduation.
That used to be considered standard curriculum. When and why did it change?
That said - there is a lot about any history that can't be discussed at the elementary or secondary level, so a good in-depth history course is absolutely necessary at the post-secondary level for us to know our own country.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)of U.S. History (1 sem in 8th grade, 1 yr. in 9th grade, and 1 sem. in 10th grade) along with 1 semester of Government (Civics). I feel that this would be adequate preparation for interacting as an engaged citizen so long as the student is actually interested in doing that.
In addition AP U.S. History is the second most popular A.P. class. Around 1/2 million students have taken A.P. History when they graduate (about 3.3M graduates). Given that AP credit is an expectation for entry into elite colleges chances are very good that most of those students will have had this year long survey course. The percentage for a history major must be even higher. One website says that elite colleges expect 7 to 12 A.P. courses for entry.
Most elite colleges do not reduce the number of credits required to be taken even with the A.P. courses (you just get to take more advanced courses). Probably a firm knowledge of U.S. history is a necessity to even to take additional history courses considering the large footprint the U.S. has on world affairs. Harvard requires a course either in U.S. History or European History.
Now you can see a scenario in which some student avoids taking the AP U.S. History class. Chances are if you school has A.P. U.S. History you better have taken it to get into an elite college (or even a selective public institution). If your school does not offer an A.P. U.S. History course and you get into an elite institution, then you should be commended because you are like a unicorn.
Igel
(35,317 posts)Take AP History and some schools, not all, will give you freshman history college credit. And if that's a requirement, then you don't have to take it.
But the point is that the AP classes help you get unwanted required classes out of the way, but the class credit is still required. Otherwise they might count as electives.
The claim is that a lot of schools have no US History requirement.
seabeckind
(1,957 posts)Same bullshit, different day.
American history is only taken in college when going in depth, the way college is intended. If there's a failing in American history, the failing is in the local school districts.
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exboyfil
(17,863 posts)You might as well complain that all math majors don't take Algebra/Trig in college. Chances are they are already at Calculus I or II when they start.
I am not sure of a state which doesn't require 1 year of U.S. History and 1 semester of Civics/Government. It was that way when I went to school, and I suspect it is still that way. I bet more high school students get a deeper exposure into U.S. History than they did when I graduated high school in 1981 because of AP U.S. History (around a half million students have taken APUSH out of about 3 million graduating annually).
I remember how much I loved my U.S. History class in high school. My teacher was so passionate. They did not have an Honors track so the class was mixed. I was bummed when an advanced class in U.S. History was not offered (not enough interest at the high school). My teacher wanted to really teach it. I still love U.S. history and some of my casual reading and lecture watching is dedicated to learning more about it.
I never had a history class at the university (I had taken one European history class at a community college while in high school). I tested out of my English and Communications. I had 2 Communications classes, a Science Fiction as Literature class, and a Philosophy of Logic class. I am a Mechanical Engineering graduate.
malthaussen
(17,202 posts)... my high school did not have an advanced course in U.S. History, but we did have one in Russian history. Odd priority, I thought then (which didn't keep me from taking the Russian course as an elective).
I took my BA in Computer Science, but I fattened out my GPA with tons of upper-division history courses. I don't think I took a general survey course in History or Literature the whole time I was an undergraduate, though.
-- Mal
bemildred
(90,061 posts)And "Civics".
So much for our so called patriotism these days.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)It is a state requirement in Iowa:
Each school or school district must require the following as part of its graduation requirements: 1) one-half unit of United States government, 2) one unit of American History
Actually my daughters had two years of U.S. History and a semester of government.
malthaussen
(17,202 posts)... and no civics at all. This was in 1971-3. In fairness, "social studies" was really history, but for whatever reason, they didn't call it that.
The problem, as I see it, is that in secondary school (at least when I was taking the course), the emphasis was on "objective" tests and hence the memorization of facts. Hey, it may be a great party trick to be able to recite the names of every U.S. President in order, but it's not history, which is an interpretive discipline. There were no questions about history on the SAT then (can't speak for now), either. How this might have changed in the past 40-odd years I can't say, having no experience in the area.
But as to requiring specifically U.S. History in college, I don't see a need for that. Even history majors aren't going to get much out of a general survey course (except, perhaps, an easy ride to an A). People going to college should already be grounded in critical thinking (but of course, are not). They should then apply that grounding to specific questions.
-- Mal
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)California-
Three courses in social studies, including United States history and geography; world history, culture, and geography; a one-semester course in American government and civics, and a one-semester course in economics
New York-
Social Studies
US History - 1
Participation in Government 1/2
Economics - 1/2
Other - 2
bemildred
(90,061 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)"We do better here in _________ when we throw the Republicans out. California did and look at it now!"
seabeckind
(1,957 posts)What does patriotism have to do with it?
I think one of the biggest failings in the local school districts is that they have let politics and spending drive the content.
Over the last couple years seeing the absolute garbage inserted into some of the textbooks is really scary.
Trying to deny that slavery existed and was a big part of the maturing of our nation... or trying to say it was a good thing for anyone other than the owner.
Pure revisionism. I even see a lot of it on this "progressive" site.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)And heaven forfend you should offend anybody with it.
struggle4progress
(118,290 posts)NotHardly
(1,062 posts)For example, like at Yale...
Regions
United States
Europe
Asia
Latin America
Middle East and Africa
Pathways
Cultural History
Empires and Colonialism
Environmental History
Ideas and Intellectuals
International History
Politics and Law
Race, Gender, and Sexuality
Religion in Context
Science, Technology, and Medicine
Social Change and Social Movements
War and Society
The World Economy
Doing a bit or reading about college and university offerings helps. People choose their tracks and emphasis based on interests. Its not religion (and if that is a major, there are lots of tracks there too).
Helps to understand college, college courses, college degree emphasis and tracks available. Keeps nonsense at bay.
Nitram
(22,813 posts)left out in middle school and high school.