An Effing Mess: Republicans Grow Pessimistic About Defeating Obama

[Tx4obama]

An Effing Mess: Republicans Grow Pessimistic About Defeating Obama

Obama’s reelection bid is gaining momentum, and trapped in the debacle that is the Republican primary, GOP insiders are getting pessimistic about November.

For months GOP insiders have been expecting an Obama win, but their despair has reached a new low as reported by John Heilemann in New York Magazine, “A loss is what the GOP’s political class now expects. “Six months before this thing got going, every Republican I know was saying, ‘We’re gonna win, we’re gonna beat Obama,’ ” says former Reagan strategist Ed Rollins. “Now even those who’ve endorsed Romney say, ‘My God, what a fucking mess.’ ”

How badly has the Republican Party f**ked this up?

Usually, a political party uses their nominating process to build good will and positive momentum for their future standard bearer. However, the exact opposite thing is happening to the Republican Party in 2012. The latest Democracy Corps poll showed that the instead of helping douse the fire caused by the unpopular actions of the GOP controlled House, the Republican presidential candidates, especially Mitt Romney, have made things worse by spending tens of millions of dollars on negative advertising, and are pushing their party towards collapse.

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Full article here: http://www.politicususa.com/en/obama-win-2012

[socialindependocrat]

1. GOP in death throes!! Night, night!!

What will we have to talk about for the next six months??

[NICO9000]

25. We thought that in 2008 too

They're the undead - you just can't kill 'em! As long as there are stupid, scared and racist white folks, they rethugs will always have a base. Sad, but true

[socialindependocrat]

26. I try to think

of something to say to make them realize that they are voting for people who are moving the wealth to the upper 1% and not benefitting the middle class.

Then I figure the conservatives are voting just for the
anti-gay and anti-abortion issues.

I have a very smart cousin who can't see past the con. As
she and I discussed this last Xmass every time I got close
to making a point she would get really upset and divert the discussion. There must be some sort of denial thing going
on. Also, she may have just been focused on "winning" the
argument.

Oh well, try again next year.

[Censor-Ready]

27. How about this?

For the next six months we could talk about why Democrats haven't got a cogent response to Obama fronting this atrocious mortgage fraud settlement. Or Obama's proposed cut in corporate income tax. Or his failure to rein in the lawless state of Israel. Or Obama's penchant for persecuting whistleblowers. Or his failure to curb the imperial war machine and security state.

Reversing DADT was OK, though it was wedded to a medieval tax bill and thus was triangulation par excellence, but other than that and a half-baked health-care plan that corporations didn't object to, can someone tell me why Democrats still support Obama? And the ridiculous field of Republican hopefuls isn't an answer.

You know things are bad when two Supremes break with stare decisis to point out that Citizens United was a very bad decision. A little hope might be had by some honesty in discussing where we now are.

[socialindependocrat]

28. Excellent suggestions - Thanks!!

You're right. There are so many things that need to be
understood, revised and tweaked that it boggles my mind.

Let's get a Democratic majority and then hammer on them
to start to move things in a positive direction. You bring up
many good topics.

[Censor-Ready]

31. Ready, Fire, Aim!

Thanks for the reply, but getting a Democratic majority before pushing for a policy shift is the cart before the horse. It's time to go 1789 on the political system. Let them catch up to us for a change.

[socialindependocrat]

32. What happened in 1789? Pls explain.

[Jackpine Radical]

2. That's certainly been my view

these past months.

Let the public be doused with the dismal truth about the Republicans and the 1%. Get all the skeletons out. Sure, a solid 30% will stay with the Republicans, but the rest of the country is starting to catch on.

I love that all the Republicans have to do to go negative is tell the truth about each other.

[Laurian]

3. Their "f***ing mess" is richly deserved.

The GOP worked hard to create the hate filled situation they find themselves in...

[northoftheborder]

4. Getting what they SO RICHLY deserve.

[southernyankeebelle]

5. Let's not get over confident. I pray they are right. I hope all the candidates stay in til the

convention. We can only pray.

[donco]

6. I feel so sad.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

22. So sorry. Let me comfort you is way

When November is come and gone, let's both piss on the grave of the GOP. I plan to bring plenty of beers so I don't run out.

[ChazInAz]

24. It's a date.

However, not being a drinker, I shall content myself to dine copiously on asparagus beforehand.

[Thinkingabout]

7. It seems so simple to me but

I know many will never vote for Obama simply because he is black. Some would never vote for him because he does not have a R behind his name. Now for the real truth those who know he is the best candidate has to get out and vote, it is never over until it is over. WE HAVE TO VOTE!!!!!!

[tanyev]

8. What? A nation clamoring for strong GOP leadership would re-elect such an "unpopular" President?

Inconceivable.

[barbtries]

9. collapse of the republican party

is good for the country.

[davidthegnome]

10. Perhaps they're disheartened now

I'm not going to count on them staying that way though. There's still a good bit of time left before the election. A lot can happen in the months ahead. Good to be confident, but I won't be overconfident. I think Obama will still need plenty of assistance.

[Populist_Prole]

11. My feeling exactly

While I'm heartened by the absolute consistency of the GOP's wingnuttery, I'm also alarmed ( and this is anecdotal ) by the sheer visceral loathing of Obama by some people I've spoken with. Some have admitted that the GOP front runners are "out there" in many ways but still don't care because they think the more extreme positions will be more or less blunted once actually in office. That may well be true, but I sure don't want to find out and ride out a GOP president, come what may.

[saras]

14. The thing that baffles me is why they think they have a RIGHT to this hatred...

...just because the mass media told them something.

THAT is a level of stupid that baffles me far beyond the anti-life stuff. If you're abused enough, in the right ways, and have that potential, you end up anti-life. But how you end up being someone who believes mass media???

[UCmeNdc]

12. The GOP just doesn't have bad and crazy candidates, the GOP just cannot govern

The GOP just doesn't have bad and crazy candidates, the GOP just cannot govern. The Republican's policies are bad.

The economy didn't just crash under a Republican president, it crashed under Republican policies. It crashed with low taxes. It crashed with deregulate­d markets. It crashed with huge restrictio­ns on union activity. It crashed with massive cuts in environmen­tal regulation­s. It crashed with lowered trade barriers. It crashed with big fat Pentagon spending.

This whole hatred of women is another issue.

[kristopher]

13. Very well said. nt

[Shadowflash]

15. I wish I could rec a post!

Because this spot on!!

[Doctor_J]

16. I would be nice if the president would start making daily note of

this list of atrocities.

[Crunchy Frog]

17. Well, if that doesn't deserve a rec, I don't know what would.

[jerseyjack]

18. As we learned on Ohio in '06, it ain't who votes or how they vote. It's who counts the votes.

[stubtoe]

19. Obama will most likely win, but it will be telling who votes and who does not.

The rabid anti-O haters will most definitely vote. That's about 30% we can count on right there.

Moderates and Independents will vote more or less for Obama, if they vote at all.

The great gift we've been given this primary season will be the fallout from the "social issues" that the R candidates have been wallowing in for the last few weeks. This could get women to the voting booths in large numbers.

Prediction: it'll be no landslide. Especially since the RNC knows how to fudge voting machines.

[FredStembottom]

20. Everybody stay ready to do GOTV locally, please.

There is voter disenfranchisement going unchallenged in too many states.

[dogknob]

23. 9 states and pending in 10 more...

It is a very real possibility that the GOP can control the Senate and House in November.

Then what?

4 years of impeachment hearings.

[BigDemVoter]

29. god forbid!

That idea just scares the living shi* out of me after what happened to Bill Clinton.

Although Obama doesn't have baggage that Clinton did, the Repigs won't have any problem trying to impeach him for some bullshit reason--i.e. running for president when he's "not a citizen. . ."

[Javaman]

21. The republican primary: the train wreck that keeps on giving. nt

[The Stranger]

30. Great. Now I'm REALLY fucking worried.

This declaring victory before the war has begun just gives me a really, really bad feeling.

I have a bad feeling about this.