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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 07:46 PM Feb 2012

Why the $60,000 Per Year Housekeeper Is a Right-Wing Nightmare

from Dissent magazine:



Why the $60,000 Per Year Housekeeper Is a Right-Wing Nightmare
Mark Engler - February 21, 2012 10:00 am


Conservatives these days walk a tricky line when it comes to wages. On the one hand, they strive to defend the just earnings of capitalist lords of enterprise. On the other, they try hard to foster resentment of any working people who might actually enjoy living wages and decent benefits. In a nutshell: while Wall Street bankers deserve every penny they get, public school teachers—to take just one example—are overpaid mooches who are leeching off society.

The latest hubbub illustrating this strange double standard came after the New York Times reported on a new contract between the New York Hotel Trades Council (UNITE HERE Local 6), representing city hotel workers, and the Hotel Association of New York, representing hotel owners. Over the course of a seven-year contract, hotel housekeepers will have received (cumulatively) a 29 percent raise, with a typical worker going from making around $46,000 per year to earning almost $60,000 per year. The contract also includes good union health insurance and other benefits.

It is a great contract, and members of the union should be congratulated for their work in securing it. But for some conservatives, the idea that a lowly hotel maid could possibly be paid $60,000 is an abomination. Fox News analysts called it a “nightmare.”



There’s plenty to say about their disgust. The first thing to note is the sheer hypocrisy of the right-wing revulsion. Back when we were debating the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, conservatives repeatedly rallied to assert that those making $250,000 per year were not at all rich. Among other absurdities, their apologetics produced the audacious spectacle of a University of Chicago professor with a household income of more than $450,000 per year complaining about how he is just barely getting by, noting that he and his wife “occasionally eat out but with a baby sitter, these nights take a toll on our budget.” .............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.dissentmagazine.org/atw.php?id=689



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Why the $60,000 Per Year Housekeeper Is a Right-Wing Nightmare (Original Post) marmar Feb 2012 OP
strange how the stock brokers and bankers who work in New York are defended for zbdent Feb 2012 #1
And there ya have it. GreenPartyVoter Feb 2012 #2
Maids negotiate & get a raise - that should be success in Limbaugh's book. Beartracks Feb 2012 #6
+1 n/t Hotler Feb 2012 #13
Just like when his racist ass got run off of ESPN Doctor_J Feb 2012 #19
repulsive... handmade34 Feb 2012 #3
60K in NYC equals what in Atlanta? BOHICA12 Feb 2012 #4
I think it's somewhere in the 40-50K range, plus it's 7 years from now. tclambert Feb 2012 #7
Absolutely makes my blood boil with rage. Then again let the 1 percent shoot their mouth's off Populist_Prole Feb 2012 #5
It's all about carrots and sticks as incentives... JHB Feb 2012 #8
How much will the average CEO bonus be 7 years from now n2doc Feb 2012 #9
how much do these people talking make? Enrique Feb 2012 #10
Good for the union workers and Fux SnewZ and their bloated barking mad heads can go Fux themselves Vincardog Feb 2012 #11
This 52 year old white male college graduate has never made 40k/year. bluedigger Feb 2012 #12
I hope they pissed off a good chunk of their demographic BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #14
Not a prayer Doctor_J Feb 2012 #15
yeah..... sigh BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #16
they are freaked because they fear that their nannies and housekeepers will unionize and ask for firehorse Feb 2012 #17
That's what Repukes hate most about unions Doctor_J Feb 2012 #23
i get so infuriated by the lack of respect for labor shireen Feb 2012 #18
Who is that "Mark Simone" guy? knightmaar Feb 2012 #20
Can anyone watch that clip quakerboy Feb 2012 #21
And I suppose that if he has kids, he's probably also is complaining about all those fines the lonestarnot Feb 2012 #22
What no one seems to be talking about is that 60k is what the average American SHOULD be making. HughBeaumont Feb 2012 #24

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
1. strange how the stock brokers and bankers who work in New York are defended for
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 08:04 PM
Feb 2012

the high salaries BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO WORK AND LIVE IN NEW YORK, but the people who have to clean up after said brokers/bankers, who ALSO HAVE TO WORK AND LIVE IN NEW YORK, must get by on meager wages ...

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
6. Maids negotiate & get a raise - that should be success in Limbaugh's book.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:09 AM
Feb 2012

Why does the GOP want to punish success??

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Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
19. Just like when his racist ass got run off of ESPN
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 03:00 PM
Feb 2012

Disney Inc. booted him because they were afraid of boycotts and such (profits). He was pissed when the market spoke that time too. Lying, hypocritical pederast.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
3. repulsive...
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:50 PM
Feb 2012


and why the hell shouldn't housekeepers make $60,000??? ...all people who do a day's work should make a livable wage!!
 

BOHICA12

(471 posts)
4. 60K in NYC equals what in Atlanta?
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 12:58 AM
Feb 2012

Fair pay for the market and the product and the product's asking price. Good for the Union - but I'll have to stay in NJ.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
7. I think it's somewhere in the 40-50K range, plus it's 7 years from now.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:46 AM
Feb 2012

In 7 years, 60K in New York may seem like 35K in Atlanta today. To Republicans anything above slave wages is an outrage. (Is "slave wages" an oxymoron?)

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
5. Absolutely makes my blood boil with rage. Then again let the 1 percent shoot their mouth's off
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 04:13 AM
Feb 2012

So much for someone being being paid based on supply/demand. Now it's also kowtowing to rich prick's sensibilities. This sort of arrogant posturing from them is about the only thing that will pry working class conservatives from the GOP ( unless they're fundies )

JHB

(37,161 posts)
8. It's all about carrots and sticks as incentives...
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:22 AM
Feb 2012

Republicans think they should be strictly segregated: banker is a "carrot" job, hotel maid is a "stick" job.

History shows mixing the two works well at all levels, but they don't find that nearly as satisfying.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
9. How much will the average CEO bonus be 7 years from now
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:53 AM
Feb 2012

Frankly, to have kept up with inflation since the 70's, this (40 to 60k) should be the basic starting wage for a full time job everywhere.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
10. how much do these people talking make?
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:01 AM
Feb 2012

how many hours do they "work", if you can even call it that? What are their benefits like?

Compare that to the actual work that housekeepers do. The kind of job where once you punch in you are expected to be actually working every minute unless you're on your break. Their breaks and lunches are likely the only times they aren't on their feet.

Major kudos to this union for getting that contract.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
12. This 52 year old white male college graduate has never made 40k/year.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:27 AM
Feb 2012

And I've never begrudged another working person making a decent wage, either.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
14. I hope they pissed off a good chunk of their demographic
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:50 AM
Feb 2012

Thanks for this article----I've actually never watched fux spews, so without DU, I'd have no idea

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
15. Not a prayer
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 12:04 PM
Feb 2012

hate radio and Fox "News" will convince them that the $60K maids are taking money from them. It's the CEO/Teabagger/union worker/cookie issue all over again.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
16. yeah..... sigh
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 12:22 PM
Feb 2012

the hate factor will outweigh any normal cognitive process......

I remember reading that at the end of WWII, as the Allies rode through Berlin, there were still some people standing among the ruins, waving little nazi flags.

firehorse

(755 posts)
17. they are freaked because they fear that their nannies and housekeepers will unionize and ask for
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 02:20 PM
Feb 2012

fair wages.

I've got a friend who currently works as a maid in a hotel in NYC. She's well educated, very smart and used to work in the jewelry industry. But she shifted to a union maid job after realizing how the pay was so much better than what she had been getting in her midtown office job. It was a smart move for her.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
23. That's what Repukes hate most about unions
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:11 AM
Feb 2012

and what even non-union working class folk should like about them. Everyone's pay goes up when the unions have a success. Too bad Fox Nation is completely brain dead, or they would catch on to this.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
18. i get so infuriated by the lack of respect for labor
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 02:27 PM
Feb 2012

Hard physical work is not valued in this country. If all the people working construction, manufacturing, etc., were to stop working, this country would collapse. If all the people on wall street and overpaid CEOs would stop working, we can adjust and manage WITHOUT them -- it will be a big change in life as we know it, but us 99% are smart to get through it and thrive.

Good for those hotel workers and employers! I'm glad their salaries have increased, they deserve it. And I hope it continues to increase!!!

knightmaar

(748 posts)
20. Who is that "Mark Simone" guy?
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 03:45 PM
Feb 2012

Talk about your privileged douchebag.

That's the perfect example of privilege. He's so far removed from the world of hotel maids and the potential assaults they face every day that he thinks those "panic buttons" they demanded are a "gimmick".

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
21. Can anyone watch that clip
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:24 PM
Feb 2012

without wondering how much work a housekeeper does in in a day, in comparison to what any of the three mouths so glibly badmouthing them with insinuations does?

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
22. And I suppose that if he has kids, he's probably also is complaining about all those fines the
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:09 AM
Feb 2012

charter school is imposing on him for his kids chewing gum, bringing snacks to school, shoes untied too. Idjits like him usually back the charter school bullshit until it comes to their wallets unless they in on the theft.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
24. What no one seems to be talking about is that 60k is what the average American SHOULD be making.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:47 PM
Feb 2012

Had wages kept up with inflation, productivity and general cost of living increases for the past 31 years, that is.

We shouldn't be saying "WHY is THAT person making 60 grand a year for cleaning toilets?? She shouldn't even be making HALF that!!! She should be getting screwed worse than I'M getting screwed!!" We should be saying "Why aren't ALL of us making more? Why should I have to go into debt to eat? Why should I have to choose between the mortgage or food this month??"

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