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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 11:47 AM Aug 2016

Teachers Unions Mean Better Teachers, New Study Says

To hear the hedge fund managers, real estate moguls, and software billionaires trying to reshape public education tell it, unions are the worst thing to happen to education ever since they supposedly make it impossible to fire crappy teachers.

A new study shows they have the opposite effect though: districts are more careful to weed out the bad apples before they get tenure.

And the reality is, a lot of districts (and those billionaires) don't care about how good or bad teachers are--they just want to replace expensive experienced ones with inexpensive inexperienced ones, which is why Teach for America exists.

When will we start basing our public education policy on what people with some expertise in the field say instead of what some rich guys who are looking to lower their taxes and/or siphon off our tax dollars for their profits from charter schools, software, and the real estate of closed schools?

If Democrats wanted to win back supermajorities in the House and Senate, they could say that they were dead wrong to try to privatize public education, and the correct role for the wealthy in our schools is to pay more taxes to lower class size and increase social services instead of testing, punishing, and draining money away in their various scams.

All that stuff you hear about how teachers unions protect bad teachers through the evils of due process and their general uniony badness? A new study for the National Bureau of Economic Research says nuh-uh. EduShyster interviews the study’s author, Eunice Han:

By demanding higher salaries for teachers, unions give school districts a strong incentive to dismiss ineffective teachers before they get tenure. Highly unionized districts dismiss more bad teachers because it costs more to keep them. Using three different kinds of survey data from the National Center for Education Statistics, I confirmed that unionized districts dismiss more low-quality teachers than those with weak unions or no unions. Unionized districts also retain more high-quality teachers relative to district with weak unionism. No matter how and when I measured unionism I found that unions lowered teacher attrition.


This isn’t all theoretical. Thanks to Republican state governments in Indiana, Idaho, Tennessee, and Wisconsin, Han had the chance to see how this played out in recent years:

If you believe the argument that teachers unions protect bad teachers, we should have seen teacher quality rise in those states after the laws changed. Instead I found that the opposite happened.



http://www.alternet.org/labor/teachers-unions-mean-better-teachers-new-study-says
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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
2. yep. 75% drop in teacher prep programs here in CA. Corporate reformers can't say they're getting
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:15 PM
Aug 2016

better teachers when they have fewer to chose from.

wcast

(595 posts)
3. Same is true in PA
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:36 PM
Aug 2016

Our state colleges are dropping teacher certification programs and the number entering the profession has plummeted.

wcast

(595 posts)
5. They don't care.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:54 PM
Aug 2016

They cut around 1 billion dollars from public ed when Corbett was governor, both secondary and higher ed. We are constantly fighting to keep our pension, stop bills that allow furloughs for economic reasons, i.e. Get rid of senior teachers, privatization, etc.

Even special education certification is mostly k-8 as they want a secondary degree in addition to a special education degree to teach special education at the high school level. No one is doing that.

AwakeAtLast

(14,130 posts)
6. They will be hourly workers
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 07:26 PM
Aug 2016

Punching time clocks, making minimum wage.

At least that's what the ultimate Repuke fantasy is.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
8. I think their ultimate fantasy is no minimum wage then stiffing them for their paycheck
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:26 AM
Aug 2016

at the end of the week and workers having no government agency to help them recover wages.

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