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riversedge

(70,239 posts)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:15 AM Nov 2016

The real Clinton email scandal is that a bullshit story has dominated the campaign

Lots of details for anyone who is interested--



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Take a serious look. Inform yourself. Tell your family. There is nothing to this email scandal. It's entirely bogus.

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The real Clinton email scandal is that a bullshit story has dominated the campaign
If you agree with her on policy, vote with a clear conscience about the server.



Updated by Matthew Yglesias@mattyglesiasmatt@vox.com Nov 4, 2016, 9:35am EDT

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/4/13500018/clinton-email-scandal-bullshit



..............A bullshit scandal amidst a serious election

Network newscasts have, remarkably, dedicated more airtime to coverage of Clinton’s emails than to all policy issues combined.

Cable news has been, if anything, worse, and many prestige outlets have joined the pileup. One malign result of obsessive email coverage is that the public is left totally unaware of the policy stakes in the election. Another is that the constant vague recitations of the phrase ‘‘Clinton email scandal’’ have firmly implanted the notion that there is something scandalous about anything involving Hillary Clinton an email, including her campaign manager getting hacked or the revelation that one of her aides sometimes checked mail on her husband’s computer.

But none of this is true. Clinton broke no laws according to the FBI itself. Her setup gave her no power to evade federal transparency laws beyond what anyone who has a personal email account of any kind has. Her stated explanation for her conduct is entirely believable, fits the facts perfectly, and is entirely plausible to anyone who doesn't simply start with the assumption that she's guilty of something.

Given Powell’s conduct, Clinton wasn't even breaking with an informal precedent. The very worst you can say is that, faced with an annoying government IT policy, she used her stature to find a personal workaround rather than a systemic fix that would work for everyone. To spend so much time on such a trivial matter would be absurd in a city council race, much less a presidential election. To do so in circumstances when it advances the electoral prospects of a rival who has shattered all precedents in terms of lacking transparency or basic honesty is infinity more scandalous than anything related to the server itself.

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The real Clinton email scandal is that a bullshit story has dominated the campaign (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2016 OP
A-FUCKING-MEN!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2016 #1
Welcome to DU, 50 Shades of Blue! calimary Nov 2016 #11
Thank you and ditto!!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2016 #21
^^^ This! ffr Nov 2016 #22
and they say she needs jailing because her administrator didn't keep up with microsoft updates. unblock Nov 2016 #2
All of this fueled by the GOPs which was backed by corporate media Iliyah Nov 2016 #4
PROSECUTE THE GOP! burrowowl Nov 2016 #14
And on a sarcastic note: world wide wally Nov 2016 #5
E-mail kebob Nov 2016 #6
Welcome to DU, kebob! calimary Nov 2016 #12
Abe Lincoln Personally KILLED "Alleged" Vampires kebob Nov 2016 #13
I think all of us here on DU would agree. I hope this country is finally waking up from its nap. YOHABLO Nov 2016 #7
Why doesn't anyone mention that it wasn't illegal?!?! Stonepounder Nov 2016 #10
It is a testimony agincourt Nov 2016 #15
It's always been much ado about nothing. joshdawg Nov 2016 #16
the buzz starts at your local radio station and a lot of certainot Nov 2016 #17
There is no there, there... nightscanner59 Nov 2016 #18
It's a little preview of what the next 4 yrs will be like Bucky Nov 2016 #24
K&R red dog 1 Nov 2016 #25
COMPLETELY AGREE.... JHan Nov 2016 #26
An unstable, racist, fascist is this close to being elected and all the MSM can talk about is emails Doodley Nov 2016 #27
I totally agree with you."Clinton broke no laws according to the FBI itself." The Wielding Truth Nov 2016 #29
I used to laugh at the idea of choosing kings by birth tclambert Nov 2016 #30
Election records show Comey gave $5000 to romney in 2012. jackson Nov 2016 #31
and as Dan Rather added, the media and demagogues who enabled it still_one Nov 2016 #32
KnR Hekate Nov 2016 #33
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calimary

(81,297 posts)
11. Welcome to DU, 50 Shades of Blue!
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:59 AM
Nov 2016

Such an incredibly bogus, stupid, TOTAL bullshit "scandal."

Too bad there's such a big contingent of know-nothings who swallow this crap without even chewing it a little.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
22. ^^^ This!
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 05:47 PM
Nov 2016

Nothing there, never was. Millions in taxpayer dollars and countless hours wasted by our lovely Grand Old Party of NO.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
2. and they say she needs jailing because her administrator didn't keep up with microsoft updates.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:25 AM
Nov 2016

it's beyond ridiculous the standard to which she's held.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. All of this fueled by the GOPs which was backed by corporate media
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:48 AM
Nov 2016

and now we find out our supposedly "non-partisan" FBI were also fabricating the fake story as well.

This is worst than Watergate.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
5. And on a sarcastic note:
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 02:17 PM
Nov 2016

What are they even concerned about? That she would work with the Russans or something?

calimary

(81,297 posts)
12. Welcome to DU, kebob!
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 01:04 AM
Nov 2016

Just imagine all the new ways they'll undoubtedly invent to continue persecuting her! Wouldn't surprise me if they kept on investigating, still desperately trying to come up with something/anything that'll stick - long after she's faded into history.

agincourt

(1,996 posts)
15. It is a testimony
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 02:57 AM
Nov 2016

to how much the American public has swallowed the liberal media myth, that the story had any legs. I've wondered too, if Comey thought HRC might fire him if elected so he tried to swing the election for Dumpster.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
17. the buzz starts at your local radio station and a lot of
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 07:43 AM
Nov 2016

those parasitize our major universities.

at least 90 unis support at least 255 limbaugh stations at it may be closer to 1/3 of rw stations all together that would lose advertisers by the truckload if those schools started looking for apolitical alts to broadcast their games on

nightscanner59

(802 posts)
18. There is no there, there...
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 01:05 PM
Nov 2016

Even when the MSM knew there was no there there, they sensationalized the bullshit here, there and everywhere. NO substance. No smoking gun. NO there, there... but there's a lot of people all upset and ranting so there is one and there is one and there and there and there. There.
Anything but to talk about the issues which is a sure loser for the GOP.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
24. It's a little preview of what the next 4 yrs will be like
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 02:40 PM
Nov 2016

More constant distractions from Republican disruptors.

red dog 1

(27,816 posts)
25. K&R
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 02:42 PM
Nov 2016

The Clinton e-mail crap had settled down since Comey said last summer that there was no criminal intent on her part, so there would be no indictments etc.(There was no "there" there)

Then 10 days ago, Comey inserts himself into the election with that stupid letter he sent to the GOP lawmakers.

Comey should have been put on administrative leave AT THAT TIME, and President Obama should have issued a statement immediately that the Justice Department would be looking into the Comey matter as a possible violation of the Hatch Act of 1939.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
29. I totally agree with you."Clinton broke no laws according to the FBI itself."
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 07:32 PM
Nov 2016

"Her setup gave her no power to evade federal transparency laws beyond what anyone who has a personal email account of any kind has. Her stated explanation for her conduct is entirely believable, fits the facts perfectly, and is entirely plausible to anyone who doesn't simply start with the assumption that she's guilty of something. "

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
30. I used to laugh at the idea of choosing kings by birth
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 08:47 PM
Nov 2016

and how big arguments, even wars, could erupt over who had the closer relationship to the previous king. And then there was Richard the Third, who pretty much murdered his way up the chain of succession. But really, is our system of people throwing BS around and all their supporters arguing that the "other side" stinks more than their candidate much of an improvement? Can't we make them take an aptitude test? Can't we do a simple criminal background check?

No, of course not. One side has a clear advantage in aptitude and education and no criminal record. One side has no evidence of aptitude at anything and actually paid fines and settlements and is currently on trial for various legal violations. BUT, the one with the skill and clean record gets investigated over and over, investigations that never lead to anything, yet the implication that something might someday be found outrages people more. Innuendo counts more than actual violations. The two major parties have way different standards.

 

jackson

(144 posts)
31. Election records show Comey gave $5000 to romney in 2012.
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 10:45 PM
Nov 2016

The records don't show he gave anything yet to Trump, but it usually doesn't come out until after the election. Someone on facebook posted a photo showing a Trump sign on Comey's lawn. This entire situation stinks. Comey should resign. ............

COMEY, JAMES MR. WESTPORT CT 06880 BRIDGEWATER ASSOCIATES LP GENERAL COUNSEL ROMNEY, MITT / RYAN, PAUL D. VIA ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT, INC. 05/31/2012 2500.00 14970005730
COMEY, JAMES MR. WESTPORT CT 06880 BRIDGEWATER ASSOCIATES LP GENERAL COUNSEL ROMNEY, MITT / RYAN, PAUL D. VIA ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT, INC. 05/31/2012 2500.00 14970005729

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