Toon - The Difference in Drugs

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[liberal N proud]

1. Greed!

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2. Dont Bogart My Profits! n/t

[mackattack]

10. HA!

[tridim]

3. Not only that, but the pills don't work as well.

Some people have reported that they produce a very unpleasant experience.

I like my THC with CBD, as nature intended.

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4. wait ... synthetic delta-9-thc is made from marijuana?

not really "synthetic", then, is it?

[salvorhardin]

5. Synthetic has a technical meaning in chemistry

Any compound made by reaction of two other compounds is synthetic, yet it may come from natural sources. Even more technically, if it comes from natural sources then it's a semi-synthetic compound (e.g. rayon).

I'm pretty sure Droabinol (Marinol) is not made from any natural sources though, so it's a true synthetic.

[blue neen]

6. Also, there are pre-determined doses.

A patient can't really control whether they are getting too much of the Marinol.

It's time to legalize the real stuff, but the OP is right. It won't really happen until Big Pharma figures out their profit margins.

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7. the toon says it's synthesized from something that already contains the end result...

i understand "synthesized" may still come from natural source, but if one of the ingredients of for your "synthesis" contains the final product, it's not really a "synthesis" but rather an "extraction".

i googled around and someone on a board said it was in fact an extract, but then they purify and filter out different isomers. which is more of a process, but still doesn't sound like any "synthesis" is going on.

i'll just assume both the toon and that google find are wrong. it would make sense that marinol is created without the use of marijuana if only because marijuana is illegal and using it would greatly complicate the manufacturer's operations. nevermind needing a legal waiver, they'd have to have many safeguards.

[TheMadMonk]

12. Precursor compound(s) perhaps.

Look at it this way:

• A straight up extraction of the active compound is first of all, not a patentable process, and secondly on thinner legal ice than a synthesised compound.
  
• A process by which a precursor compound is chemically altered to form a target compound is patentable.

[salvorhardin]

17. Despite what the cartoon implies

As far as I know, Dronabinol is an entirely synthetic THC isomer -- there's no cannabis involved in the production whatsoever. I'm willing to entertain information to the contrary.

[SCVDem]

8. 2 1/2 months later

I'm still whizzin positive.

There are benefits to being a junkie or a drunk!

[AlbertCat]

9. I get it.... but...

The "simple dried herb" is not so simple and probably has more "stuff" in it than any manufactured pill.

Why on earth would anyone think a plant out of the ground is chemically "simple"?????

[TheMadMonk]

15. A *domesticated* "simple dried herb"!

Mary J has co-evolved with us for pretty much as long as we've had agriculture.

IIRC LD50 (dosage which is lethal to 50%) is thousands of times the amount necessary to get properly shitfaced. Suffocation would come long before toxicity.

So, yes you are correct, it's not at all simple. However, it is tailored so well to us it it can't kill us.

[noiretextatique]

18. many people grow indoors

to better control the growing environment. i only buy organic, indoor meds.

[alfredo]

11. K

[bayareaboy]

13. Eggs-zactly ... ...

I am getting a little old for doing the ganja, but I wouldn't let a corporation sell it to me and screw with what little cells I have in my head. Perhaps I became a Repuke. Hell I saw Clockwork Orange!

[Smilo]

14. And that folks is why the government will never make the simple dried herb legal. n/t

[CrispyQ]

16. Gotta feed the beast!

Two in this case - big pharma & the prison industrial complex.

Our political system stinks worse than a backed up sewer.