Russia is at war with the US. People were hacked, not votes. Gerasimov Doctrine. (Politico)
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An excellent long read from Molly McKew at Politico.
Note she says "Who needs to hack votes when you can hack people?".
The information war is real.
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And this is perhaps the banner flying over the investigations circus: Missing from the investigation of the supposed Russia scandal is any real discussion of Russia.
The starkest aspect of Comeys prepared statement was the president's lack of curiosity about the long-running, deep-reaching, well-executed and terrifyingly effective Russian attack on American democracy.
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And yes, this is indeed terrifying. So yes, it would be great if everyone would move on from denying the existence of the hacked votes no one is looking for to looking instead at the far more important issue: that Russian information warfare has come of age thanks to social media. Perhaps then, the tens of thousands of programmers working for Russias three largest data companies will make a lot more sense.
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3. It will happen again; it is still happening now.
One final point, on the tactical weaponization of discrete pieces of information. Ours was not the only case where hacking introduced info or disinfo that came to dominate specific parts of the information space (particularly when massively amplified by botnets that know how to game the algorithms).
Just this week, the planting of a single false report, allegedly by Russian hackers, was used to justify a diplomatic rift that will fuel the realignment of the Middle East.
As I wrote for Politico in January, Russia is clear about what its objectives are. When I said then that Russia was at war with the United States, this was an edgy, controversial view. Now, it is regularly repeated by senators and TV commentators. But our societal understanding of the war we face has not expanded fast enough.
Even looking only at the advance of Russian military assets men, materiel, supporting infrastructure the picture is grim. And yet the most concise encapsulation of the Russian concept of hybrid warfare the chart depicting the Gerasimov doctrine, developed by the Russian chief of the general staff shows that information warfare is the constant through all phases, and that the ideal ratio of nonmilitary to military activities is 4:1. The more important war is, by far, the shadow war. And yet we still refuse to accept whats happening.
I dont know why we just choose not to believe what Russia says, when they have repeatedly outlined what their strategic goals are and then moved to achieve them by force and guile. But its a bridge of disbelief we need to be willing to cross.
The war is in the shadows. And right now, Russia is winning. There is only one question that we should be asking: What are we going to do to protect the American people from Russian acts of war and why doesnt the president want to talk about it?
---- Edited: add link http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/11/forget-comey-the-real-story-is-russias-war-on-america-215245
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)they think they are gaining power for themselves.
We deserve this, we really do.
If we dont have RECORD turnouts in 2018 where GOP seat after GOP seat is taken by a democrat, then we are a true and real danger to the civilized world and eventually will be treated accordingly.
CincyDem
(6,386 posts)So deep that they'd rather have a white male from Russia running then country. That's why they're ok with the intellectual take over. It's aspirational. Look at Russia...any women or minorities in power ?
And that's the way it should be in 'Murica according to many.
The legacy of Lee Atwater's "Southern Strategy" that started with the signing of the Civil Right Bill, creating an opportunity for Russia 50+ years later.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,839 posts)Why doesn't he ever even mention it? Some say it's because he can't stand the notion that the Russians helped him win the election - because he's so awesome that he didn't need any help and he doesn't want anyone to think otherwise. But it's known and not disputed by anyone that Russia's hacking was intended to favor Trump - if not to ensure that he won, at least to cripple Clinton if she had. Even the GOP isn't denying that fact. It's also been posited that Trump, being the narcissist that he is, wasn't interested in talking about something that didn't involve him presently and personally (like the peeing Russian hookers - he was *very* interested in "disproving" that report).
My theory is the reason Trump doesn't talk about it and why he never asked Comey about the status of the investigation into the hacking is that he already knows that there was collusion; and which Americans associated with him were involved, and how. So he won't ask because (a) he doesn't need to, and (b) he doesn't want to go there. It's kind of like that classic courtroom scene in the murder trial where the prosecutor announces that the murdered person whose body was never found is actually still alive and is about to walk into the courtroom, and everybody turns around to look at the courtroom door except the defendant, because the defendant knows the alleged victim really is dead - proving he's guilty.