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Uncle Joe

(58,347 posts)
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:10 PM Jul 2018

Hightower: New York Times strikes out about Sanders



(snip)

Really? Then why did this prestigious publication waste so much paper and ink on a June 25 front-page article about Bernie Sanders that was demonstrably untrue, not news and clearly unfit to print?

The piece claimed that the formidable presidential contender of 2016 has been a ballot box flop this year, failing to “expand his political base and propel his personal allies to victory in Democratic primaries.” Moreover, it took a slap at Our Revolution, the aggressively progressive grassroots political movement that sprang out of Senator Sanders’ presidential run. The Times scoffed that “fewer than 50 percent of the more than 80 candidates [OR] has endorsed have won elections this year.”

News flash for clueless media cognoscenti: Winning anywhere near half of your campaigns is a stunning achievement for a political organization! It’s all the more stunning that it’s being achieved by Senator Sanders and Our Revolution, for nearly all of the candidates they endorse are unconventional, first-time contenders who start out with no name recognition, no fat cat money and no support from establishment power brokers. I happen to be a board member of the upstart Our Revolution movement, so I know of these gutsy mavericks personally, and I’ve seen their surprisingly successful campaigns from the ground level. They are winning because they’re bringing political integrity and Bernie’s big policy ideas to voters hungry for both — and because, in less than two years, has organized hundreds of thousands of democratic populists into more than 600 active political networks all across the country, including grassroots organizing in red areas the party has long ignored.

Asked about the Times’ mocking of the movement’s win-loss record, Sen. Sanders deadpanned: “It’s not a baseball game.” In fact, thought even the biggest of baseball superstars have never came close to a .500 batting average! Nor will the Times ever hit .500 on its pledge to cover all the news fit to print."

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http://www.muskogeephoenix.com/opinion/columns/hightower-new-york-times-strikes-out-about-sanders/article_d9697c4a-7fd7-11e8-8bd8-b7f3ff16ee75.html





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Hightower: New York Times strikes out about Sanders (Original Post) Uncle Joe Jul 2018 OP
Well, it wasn't ALL untrue. Wwcd Jul 2018 #1
Well hearing that from you, that's progress Uncle Joe Jul 2018 #2
I don't understand what you mean by " Wwcd Jul 2018 #3
So was I Uncle Joe Jul 2018 #4
That is Not true. Wwcd Jul 2018 #5
I don't know and never claimed Uncle Joe Jul 2018 #6
Thus the insult my way, I guess. Whatever Joe. Don't assume you know everything about any of us. Wwcd Jul 2018 #8
As I clearly stated it wasn't an insult, you just took it that way, along Uncle Joe Jul 2018 #12
I wonder why he didn't endorse Ocasio-Cortez. lapucelle Jul 2018 #7
He has been rather quiet. Wonder why. Wwcd Jul 2018 #9
The "facts" of the opinion piece aren't entirely accurate. George II Jul 2018 #10
I agree with the NYT's analysis Gothmog Jul 2018 #11
That's very... Mike Nelson Jul 2018 #13
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
3. I don't understand what you mean by "
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:29 PM
Jul 2018

"Well hearing that from you, that's progress"

I was being polite & fair.

Uncle Joe

(58,347 posts)
4. So was I
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:34 PM
Jul 2018

I can't recall you ever stating or responding to a post of mine regarding Bernie or Our Revolution with any form of agreement to the message or article.

I'm being sincere

Perhaps you have but not to my memory.

Uncle Joe

(58,347 posts)
6. I don't know and never claimed
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:40 PM
Jul 2018

to know everything about anybody here including you.

I posted in regards to my memories of my postings on Bernie and/or Our Revolution and your responses to those posts.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
8. Thus the insult my way, I guess. Whatever Joe. Don't assume you know everything about any of us.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 04:08 PM
Jul 2018

Uncle Joe

(58,347 posts)
12. As I clearly stated it wasn't an insult, you just took it that way, along
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 04:43 PM
Jul 2018

with the "assuming I know everything about any of us" notion I never stated nor implied to such but if you can a find post of mine to that effect please present it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. The "facts" of the opinion piece aren't entirely accurate.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 04:21 PM
Jul 2018

Our Revolution endorsees were running under 40% success rate a couple of weeks ago, and a few of those who did win their primary ran unopposed, and for still others Our Revolution endorsed a day or two prior to the primary/special election after it was known that the candidate would likely win.

PS - Muskogee Oklahoma?

Gothmog

(145,106 posts)
11. I agree with the NYT's analysis
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 04:42 PM
Jul 2018

The sanders movement is not going anywhere in the real world https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/us/politics/bernie-sanders-midterm-elections.html

In addition, an advocacy organization aligned with Mr. Sanders, Our Revolution, has had only marginal success. Though it has touted its electoral victories in recent primaries, fewer than 50 percent of the more than 80 candidates it has endorsed have won elections this year.....

But Mr. Sanders has done relatively little to fortify the infrastructure he built out in the 2016 campaign, and Our Revolution appears to be flailing. The group has repeatedly picked fights with the Democratic establishment in primary elections, losing nearly every time, and there have been questions about its leadership. Mr. Sanders has appeared to distance himself from some of its endorsements, including its support for Dennis Kucinich, a former congressman with some fringe views, in his unsuccessful bid for governor of Ohio this spring.

Even supporters of Mr. Sanders who are sympathetic to his overall approach to politics say that he has not capitalized on opportunities to build support in more conventional ways.

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
13. That's very...
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jul 2018

… likely true, but we've got Ocasio-Cortez and many others the media hasn't discovered, yet! Onward and upward!

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