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appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 01:16 AM Jul 2018

Maria Butina Case; More Understanding of 'Infiltration' In Russian 2016 Attack, NPR

"Maria Butina Case Bolsters Understanding of 'Infiltration' In Russian 2016 Attack," *Heard on 'All Things Considered' NPR, July 17, 2018.

Charges accusing a woman of trying to build bridges between the Russian government and American political leaders via the National Rifle Association have delivered a breakthrough in understanding one aspect of the attack on the 2016 election: "infiltration." After months of questions and speculation as to how or whether the NRA connection might have worked, prosecutors proffered an answer on Monday: The Russian woman, Maria Butina, was the intermediary between Russian government officials and Americans, both in the NRA and elsewhere in politics, according to court documents.

The government says she was acting as a foreign agent without registering. Her attorney called the charges overblown, as NPR's Carrie Johnson reported. A grand jury in Washington D.C. returned an indictment against Butina on Tuesday afternoon. Butina allegedly serves or served as the deputy to someone identified in court papers only as a "Russian official," who is probably Alexander Torshin, a now-sanctioned Kremlin official who cultivated relationships with American political leaders and the NRA over several years. The two "took these steps in order to infiltrate these groups and advance the interests of the Russian Federation," FBI Special Agent Kevin Helson said in an affidavit that accompanied the criminal complaint..

According to Simpson, Russia's active measures sought to target not only the NRA but also "various conservative organizations, religious and otherwise." The gun rights organization has acknowledged that it has a handful of overseas members but says that they gave only a negligible amount of money. More broadly, the NRA has said it hasn't done anything wrong, but it has not addressed its relationships with Butina and Torshin in detail. The group has so far not offered any comment about the Butina charges.
Torshin was placed under sanction by the Treasury Department earlier this year and is barred from returning to the United States. Butina was arrested on Sunday, the Justice Department said.

The outreach. Butina has been in the United States on a student visa since August 2016, but her role in the story traces back to at least the preceding March. That was when, according to court documents, she relied on relationships with at least one key American connected to the NRA to begin building the foundation for what prosecutors allege was her illegal work as a foreign agent..The new court documents describe a series of messages she exchanged with other people discussing their work to try to advocate for Russia behind the scenes in Washington, D.C., as the 2016 political season wore on. This adds new context to what was taking place behind the scenes by May 2016, when GOP fundraiser and NRA member Paul Erickson sent an email to Rick Dearborn, who was a staffer of then-Sen. Jeff Sessions and who went on to become a deputy chief of staff in the White House. Sessions, who has since become the attorney general, was an early supporter of Trump's upstart presidential bid:

"I'm now writing to you and Sen. Sessions in your roles as Trump foreign policy experts / advisors. [...] Happenstance and the (sometimes) international reach of the NRA placed me in a position a couple of years ago to slowly begin cultivating a back-channel to President Putin's Kremlin. Russia is quietly but actively seeking a dialogue with the U.S. that isn't forthcoming under the current administration. And for reasons that we can discuss in person or on the phone, the Kremlin believes that the only possibility of a true re-set in this relationship would be with a new Republican White House."

..Later in the year, Butina and Torshin discussed whether she should take a page from his playbook and serve as an "election observer" on behalf of Russia inside the United States. Torshin had been an "election observer" in Tennessee in 2012 as part of a riposte by the Russian government to criticisms about its elections by the United States. He credited the political relationships he had formed with the NRA in gaining entrée to American election sites, as NPR's Tim Mak reported...https://www.npr.org/2018/07/17/629627064/new-charges-confirm-that-infiltration-was-an-aspect-of-russian-2016-attack



- Then-Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks at the NRA conference in May 2016 in Kentucky.

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onetexan

(13,036 posts)
1. This association with a Russian agent and the fact it is a danger to the U.S. warrant the phony
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 02:08 AM
Jul 2018

Lobbying group be shut down immediately.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
2. Officials are likely working on that. Commenters have posted
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 02:27 AM
Jul 2018

that the pair is associated with funds donated to the Republican National Convention, the NRA and more. She also asked Trump a question at a public event which is on tape around here, and also met Don Trump Jr.
The activity has been under close review by officials involved in the case for some time I read.
Amazing how easy and successful it was for the foreign reps. to establish relationships with powerful right organizations. Small world. Torshin had been a Russian govt. official, legislator, and then in banking.

> In the article: "The word "infiltration" has been one the least-understood lanes of the "active measures" waged by the Russians since before 2016 — along with others that included social media agitation, clandestine outreach by intelligence operatives and cyberattacks."

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
3. Thank you for the good news!
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 02:32 AM
Jul 2018

They need to prosecute & shut down the traitorous NRA. I bet citizens united, federalist society & other republicans groups have been infiltrated as well. So deeply disturbing.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
4. Sure. Much gratitude for the thousands of committed intel
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 02:58 AM
Jul 2018

personnel working on this extensive web of activity, evidence and persons involved. Great job!

Agree that other GOP groups are possibly intertwined, also that their reps. are on top of counter measures to these revelations.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
6. Yes....
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 04:18 AM
Jul 2018

and isn't it odd that Trump always meets with these Russian spies, oligarchs, political officials etc. alone so no one on the U.S. side knows what's being discussed? Yes, very odd indeed!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. He's brazenly committing crimes and taunting us to do something about it.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:38 AM
Jul 2018

He couldn't possibly make it any clearer that he's committing crimes with Putin behind closed doors.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
7. The photo emphasizes the true power relationship between NRA and Trump.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:37 AM
Jul 2018

The Nativist Russiapublican Assholes (NRA) are Putin's puppet masters in the USA.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
9. Scott Walker: Butina met him in 2015 at an NRA Event & other times.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 03:14 PM
Jul 2018

'Scott Walker says his interaction with accused Russian spy Maria Butina was brief,' Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 7/18/18

Gov. Scott Walker said Wednesday he talked only briefly with a woman now accused of being a Russian spy, saying he had his photo taken with her just as he does with others who say they are supporters. "As we go to events, we meet people, they introduce themselves, often they ask for a picture," Walker told reporters during a stop in Appleton. "That's not a meeting. A meeting is where you sit down in a room and have a discussion." Walker was referring to his interaction with Maria Butina, who was indicted this week for conspiring to interfere with U.S. politics and advance Russian interests. Walker posed for a photo with her at a National Rifle Association meeting in Tennessee in 2015. In the photo, Walker stood between Butina and Alexander Torshin, who is not named in the indictment but is the "Russian official" who gave Butina orders as part of the conspiracy, according to the New York Times.
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RELATED: Scott Walker met with woman now charged in Russian plot during his presidential bid.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/she-was-like-a-novelty-how-alleged-russian-agent-maria-butina-gained-access-to-elite-conservative-circles/2018/07/17/1bb62bbc-89d2-11e8-a345-a1bf7847b375_story.html?utm_term=.da0427d9ee83

Maria Butina, who was indicted this week on charges of being a covert Russian agent, struck up friendships with the influential leaders of the National Rifle Association and the Conservative Political Action Conference, touting her interest in U.S. affairs and efforts to promote gun rights in Vladi­mir Putin’s restrictive Russia. She sidled up to GOP presidential candidates, seeking first an encounter with Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and then, after his rising candidacy stumbled, with Donald Trump.
In a social media post, Butina wrote that she met Walker and was surprised when she was able to exchange a few words in Russian with the Wisconsin governor, who was preparing a bid for the presidency and leading in polls. A Walker spokesman said Tuesday that there were thousands of people at the convention and that “many of them approached the governor and asked to say hello and take a photo with him.”
Later in 2015, she attended Walker’s kickoff political rally in Wisconsin and a town hall for candidates in Las Vegas, where candidates Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Trump were speaking. She also helped arrange a meeting for Torshin in St. Petersburg with Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.), who was visiting with a congressional delegation on a trip cited in court filings...https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142112617



- Maria Butina with Scott Walker & 'Russian Official' Alexander Tolshin at a 2015 NRA Meeting in Tennessee.

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