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appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 11:55 AM Oct 2018

Student Loan Debt Crisis $ Threatens A Generation's American Dream

Student loan crisis threatens a generation's American dream. The Guardian, Oct. 4, 2018. Forget the picket fence. Rising tuitions and official policy fueled a trillion-dollar debt crisis. Could congressional action help? EXCERPTS:



With $60,000 in student debt, Cameron Vigil does not expect to marry or start a family anytime soon, or even to afford more basic living expenses.

“It’s definitely been holding me off on buying a car or getting a house,” said Vigil, 21, a Denver resident working on her master’s degree at Regis University. She expects her debt to balloon to $100,000 by the time she finishes her doctorate. “I kind of know I have to hold off on that.”

With a staggering $1.5tn in outstanding student loans, the United States faces a crisis that has rippled throughout the economy – and is getting worse. Nearly two-thirds of 2017 college graduates need to pay back student loans, according to the California-based Institute for College Access and Success, and about 9 million have defaulted.

Borrowers who leave college without graduating also leave saddled with debt and a lower ability to get the kind of job they need to swiftly repay it. And Republicans’ attempts to roll back protections for borrowers introduced under the Obama administration make the predicament even more dire.

The federal government’s student loan watchdog, Seth Frotman, left his post last month after abruptly announcing his resignation in late August. In a scathing letter, he accused his boss, appointed by Donald Trump, of using the agency “to serve the wishes of the most powerful financial companies in America”. As the student loan ombudsman, Frotman was responsible for reviewing borrower complaints about malpractice and aggression by lenders and debt collectors.

“People want to go to college because they want a leg up and federal grants and loans are supposed to help them get there,” said Debbie Cochrane, a vice-president at the Institute for College Access and Success. “We should all be concerned if students are left worse off after attending college.”

American student loan debt has swelled by $400bn in the past five years, according to the Federal Reserve, prompted partly by a precipitous rise of college tuitions following the 2008 financial crisis.

The average 2017 graduate who borrowed to afford college owed nearly $30,000 upon leaving college, up from less than $13,000 in 1996. -More..

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/oct/04/student-loan-crisis-threatens-a-generations-american-dream

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Student Loan Debt Crisis $ Threatens A Generation's American Dream (Original Post) appalachiablue Oct 2018 OP
.... handmade34 Oct 2018 #1
Amen. Thanks for the good info. & links. The injustice galls me! appalachiablue Oct 2018 #2
it has hit our family... handmade34 Oct 2018 #3
Congratulations...this is hard to do. I had a friend who's kid inherited some $, & instead of SWBTATTReg Oct 2018 #5
Good on you and yours for your commitment to education appalachiablue Oct 2018 #10
Why aren't your kids also working extra jobs to help you pay your loans? MichMan Oct 2018 #11
Maybe customerserviceguy Oct 2018 #4
I think if they highlighted that these types of loans can't be discharged in bankrupcy, then ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2018 #6
I don't think that would make a difference customerserviceguy Oct 2018 #7
Maybe handmade34 Oct 2018 #8
I do agree customerserviceguy Oct 2018 #9
There is one reason student loans are treated differently in bankruptcy than others MichMan Oct 2018 #12

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
1. ....
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:39 PM
Oct 2018
Ending the Student Loan Trap will grow the economy and create millions of jobs. A new study shows how we can unleash massive economic potential by canceling unfair student loans and freeing the 44 million. The tens of millions of people imprisoned by debt will be free—free to buy homes, serve their communities, start families, and invest in the future


More than 173,000 Americans have seen Social Security checks garnished to pay for student loan debts.
The student loan trap isn’t just harming individuals—it is smothering our whole economy.

Studies have shown that cancelling existing student loan debt would save the average borrower aged 20-30 more than $4,000 per year, putting that money back into the economy and creating millions of jobs.


http://www.freedomtoprosper.org/


https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/studentdebt/?source=group-campaign-for-americas-future-2&referrer=group-campaign-for-americas-future-2&action=StudentDebt&link_id=0&can_id=b40a603a30596dffe8084cad444f2e50&email_referrer=email_429088___subject_543936&email_subject=grow-the-economy-cancel-student-debt


handmade34

(22,756 posts)
3. it has hit our family...
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:33 PM
Oct 2018

I went back to school later in life and had student debt at the same time as all of my kids... I have opted to put off paying my student loans and instead have helped my kids and now all but one have their loans paid off... I am taking on extra work to help the last get her loans paid... I will probably die with student loans and hope they don't come after my Social Security before that

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
5. Congratulations...this is hard to do. I had a friend who's kid inherited some $, & instead of
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 03:34 PM
Oct 2018

spending it on a car or the like, paid off their college loans. Smart kid. Just like you. I have other friends that are still paying off these loans. Good luck to you and best wishes. I hope your kids are in turn, helping you pay off your loan(s). Bless you.

appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
10. Good on you and yours for your commitment to education
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 12:49 PM
Oct 2018

and work given the current system that is draining well- intentioned people and families in the US. It shouldn't be this expensive and difficult to obtain a decent education and a job, and it never was prior to Reagan, and the predators and greedheads who've run amuck over the last 35 years.
Not permitting any discharge of student debt ever, and attaching Americans' social security funds is horrendous.

This is not the way any advanced country that values it's citizens, esp. young people- the future, sets up a society. In Canada, Europe, and previously the US, higher education was affordable, not life wrecking!

In three generations, not one person in my family took out financial loans, borrowed money or carried any debt for college, even those who undertook post graduate studies. College tuition and housing were affordable, and students could work a part time job or summers for extra money.

The state run, public educational institutions that my relatives and many Americans attended, received a large amount of funding from tax revenue, and when Reagan enacted a huge tax cut for the wealthy in the 80s, there went the money.

A 'loan industry' for education didn't exist before the 1980s and 1990s, just like credit cards which were limited and mainly issued to company employees for travel, and well off individuals-- American Express, Diners Club, Gasoline Co. cards, etc.

But by the late 1970s financial institutions were sending credit cards to college students, like me. Junior year I got a mastercard in the mail w/o even applying. This country needs major reforms especially expunging the 'financialization' for profit motive that's ruining education in the US and the same for 'for profit' corporate health insurance.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
4. Maybe
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 03:15 PM
Oct 2018

it shouldn't be so easy to get a student loan. It's the only loan that is granted without collateral, or even a meaningful plan to repay it. If I wanted to get a small business loan, not only would I need to put up my home, but I'd have to have a well thought out plan as to how I was going to use the money, and how it would generate income to pay the payments. If I was going into something flaky, or what looked like a temporary trend, or something that already had a massive oversupply problem, then I wouldn't get the loan.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
6. I think if they highlighted that these types of loans can't be discharged in bankrupcy, then ...
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 03:38 PM
Oct 2018

I think more people wouldn't get. It's truly a massive burden that besides getting married, buying cars as they get on their own, buy homes, etc., that these loans don't become a huge burden to them. I would think that banks would not participate in these types of loans, for it hurts them too in the long run (fewer borrowers).

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. I don't think that would make a difference
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 03:42 PM
Oct 2018

When you're 18 to 22 or 23, you have an optimism about the future that leads you to ignore possible dangers that you are predisposed to think happen to someone else. And the reason that the banks do these loans is that they're guaranteed by the federal government. That might even apply if there were some legislation passed that said that repayment was optional for borrowers, in other words, a "forgiveness" of student loan debt.

Who picks up the tab for that, anyway?

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
8. Maybe
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 03:59 PM
Oct 2018

it should be easier to get a good education without putting your future in jeopardy...


we could require a comprehensive plan when taking out a loan for college but the prospect of a livable wage job after college is sometimes tenuous at best... when starting a business an individual has much greater control of factors that go into make the business successful...

often engaging in a specific course of study in college is risky... will the jobs be available when finished?



customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. I do agree
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 12:28 AM
Oct 2018

that a college education is good to have, and like high school is provided, at least community college should be. But someone spending 4-5 years working on something that can reasonably forseen to have no future prospects, should society pay for that in all instances?

MichMan

(11,931 posts)
12. There is one reason student loans are treated differently in bankruptcy than others
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:08 AM
Oct 2018

Unlike loans taken out for material goods, education can't be taken back. If I take out a car loan for a luxury car or a mortgage and don't make the payments, the car is repossessed and the house is foreclosed. I don't get to declare bankruptcy and continue to drive the car and live in the house.

If people could discharge student loans by declaring bankruptcy, it would be too easy to borrow large amounts to attend expensive schools (including housing and living costs) graduate with a MBA. and once graduating declare bankruptcy, walk away, sticking the rest of us with the costs. Once debt free, they would then be able to immediately take a high paying job at Wall Street, while gaming the system.

If student loans were able to be forgiven or discharged in bankruptcy, the student should be required to forfeit all transcripts and diplomas as if they had never attended.

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