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Eugene

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Sun Jun 9, 2019, 11:32 PM Jun 2019

Life Begins at Conception (Except When That's Inconvenient for Republicans)

Source: New York Times

Life Begins at Conception (Except When That’s Inconvenient for Republicans)

It’s almost as if abortion bans aren’t actually about “life” at all.

By Molly Jong-Fast
Ms. Jong-Fast is a writer.

June 8, 2019

When, exactly, do abortion opponents think life begins?

Over the past few months there has been a rush to pass abortion bans. Most of these bans center on the idea that abortions should be banned as soon as the fetal heartbeat is detected; that’s because “a heartbeat proves that there’s life that deserves protection under law,” according to a state representative in Kentucky, Robert Goforth.

On the other hand, many, including Mr. Goforth himself, also believe “life begins at conception,” as Tom Cotton, the Republican senator from Arkansas, said on “Meet the Press” last month. Or to take it still further, that the blastocyst, that clump of cells smaller than a raspberry that forms in the early days after a sperm meets an egg, is a person. As an Alabama state representative, Terri Collins, put it: “This bill addresses that one issue. Is that baby in the womb a person? I believe our law says it is. I believe our people say it is. And I believe technology shows it is.”

And yet.

Representative Collins recently sponsored what is arguably the most extreme abortion ban to pass to date — Alabama’s near total prohibition of the procedure, with no exceptions for rape or incest. But this ban does have one exception: Fertilized eggs, blastocysts, five-day-old embryos — people, according to some definitions — are exempt and can be destroyed, so long as they are not contained in the body of a woman. “The egg in the lab doesn’t apply,” said Clyde Chambliss, a state senator and another sponsor of the abortion bill. “It’s not in a woman. She’s not pregnant.”

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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/08/opinion/sunday/abortion-life-conception.html

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Life Begins at Conception (Except When That's Inconvenient for Republicans) (Original Post) Eugene Jun 2019 OP
I am all for women's right and that includes IVF but really how can one , an unintentional lunasun Jun 2019 #1

lunasun

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1. I am all for women's right and that includes IVF but really how can one , an unintentional
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:01 AM
Jun 2019

pregnancy not be ok but intentionally creating a large amount of embryos with the understanding some will be destroyed as the weakest during selection or sex selection be OK with the same anti choice crowd ?
At least the Catholic Church agrees both are wrong in the church eyes and as disgusting as the religion’s views are to me and I do not agreewith any of it, I have to say they are consistent on this point

Seems what they are saying here in the link is that it’s all about the woman really and a class issue too if you think about it
not “all embryos are equal” so is it really about “pro life” ? Hell NO

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