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appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 02:47 PM Sep 2019

Earth Has Survived Extinctions Before, IT'S HUMANS WHO ARE FRAGILE

- Opinion: Earth Has Survived Extinctions Before, It's Humans Who Are Fragile- *RADIO NPR, Scott Simon, Sept. 7, 2019.

It takes only a few paragraphs in Genesis for the Earth to take shape, sprout with life, and then human beings. Of course, that development actually took millions of years. But this week, as the world watched a huge hurricane gather in the Earth's warming waters, and wreak terrible destruction on life in the islands of the Bahamas and other places, there was another humbling reminder that human beings really only play a supporting role in the history of the Earth.

Scientists have uncovered what they call the Great Oxidation Event. They say it destroyed almost all life on Earth about 2 billion years ago, even before the rise and extinction of the dinosaurs, a mere millions of years ago..Scientists say the Earth's only living inhabitants about 2 billion years ago were microorganisms. But when they photosynthesized, that process that turns light into chemical energy, the tiny organisms saturated the Earth with oxygen — too much oxygen. The excess essentially poisoned the atmosphere for 80 to 99.5% of the organisms that then thrived on Earth; and left the planet almost lifeless.

Malcolm Hodgskiss told CNN, "Even our most conservative estimates would exceed estimates for the amount of life that died off during the extinction of the dinosaurs approximately 65 million years ago." ..A new scientific study and actual events reminded us this week that the Earth endures. It's us, all the living things that inhabit it for a while, who are fragile; and who know our time is fleeting...

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https://www.npr.org/2019/09/07/758448991/opinion-earth-has-survived-extinctions-before-its-humans-who-are-fragile



- A gas flare from the Shell Chemical LP petroleum refinery illuminates the sky on Aug. 21 in Norco, La.

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Earth Has Survived Extinctions Before, IT'S HUMANS WHO ARE FRAGILE (Original Post) appalachiablue Sep 2019 OP
I know I sound pessimistic, but I don't think humans will endure long term, at least on earth. There RKP5637 Sep 2019 #1
Agree... I don't like to get in big discussions about it. Sad for future generations Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #3
Unfortunately we are destroying other species nmgaucho Sep 2019 #2
Ditto and in spades! BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #9
This. We deserve what we will get. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2019 #4
what the article describes is extinction of almost ALL life stopdiggin Sep 2019 #5
Yes, that was the Great Oxidation event. Igel Sep 2019 #8
Microoganisms will endure The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #6
Humans are the most successful species on earth? at140 Sep 2019 #7

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
1. I know I sound pessimistic, but I don't think humans will endure long term, at least on earth. There
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 02:56 PM
Sep 2019

is just too much going against it. I can't understand how some can be so damn rigid and not see what is happening and work to drag down others trying to make a change.

nmgaucho

(527 posts)
2. Unfortunately we are destroying other species
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 03:01 PM
Sep 2019

They have just as much right to exist on this planet as we do and we are wiping them out due to out lack of compassion and selfishness . I'm so sick of this idea that the human species is the only one that matters.

stopdiggin

(11,301 posts)
5. what the article describes is extinction of almost ALL life
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 03:25 PM
Sep 2019

In my mind, it doesn't say much to state that "the Earth will endure" .. if it does so as a barren rock in space

Igel

(35,300 posts)
8. Yes, that was the Great Oxidation event.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 05:23 PM
Sep 2019

There was virtually no oxygen; as it was produced by photosynthesis, it dragged iron out of the oceans and produced the banded iron formations that provided the means for the industrial revolution and modern steel manufacturing.

Since the O2 was produced in the water, you see the problem in trying to make any kind of guesses as to what the actual atmosphere and circulation patterns of the dissolved or gaseous oxygen were.

The Earth's atmosphere was reducing way back then. Think modern-day anaerobic bacteria. Many species die upon exposure to oxygen, which is toxic to them. Now make that true for almost all species on Earth.

Granted, this was a couple billion (not "a few millions&quot of years ago, long before the Cambrian explosion and its precursors. All life was pretty much microscopic or lumps of microscopic things that weren't well differentiated as to their roles. Perhaps some symbiosis, but if we got up to little lumpy squishy things that could locomote by then it would be surprising.

I heard the sermonette this morning while on the road. (And that's what it struck me as. Preaching.) My first annoyance was that the radio host seemed to think this was some new discovery of an extinction event, as opposed to just quantifying one that was well known and placing the level of extinction higher than the mostly hypothetical guesses available when I taught this stuff in a high school science class years ago.

at140

(6,110 posts)
7. Humans are the most successful species on earth?
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 04:11 PM
Sep 2019

Human like fossils go back several million years.
Assuming humans go back 2 million years,
Just 1% of human history = 20,000 years.

Look what humans had to survive 20,000 years ago...

No anti-biotics
No pain medications
No vaccines
No heaters to survive winters
No A/C in hot & humid summers
No motorized vehicles
No cell phones
No TV
No radio
No electricity
No agriculture
No fast food
No defense against lions and tigers
No anti-venom when stung by poisonous snakes
No guns for hunting
No way to catch game animals
No way to start a fire
No tools

I really can't imagine how tough life was for 99% of human existence.
Any species who survived those conditions, will be around for millions of more years.
Look at how many powerful species have gone extinct already!

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