Frank Rich: What will happen to the Trump toadies?
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/what-will-happen-to-trumps-republican-collaborators.htmlLong but excellent. Here are four sample paragraphs, but it's really worth reading the whole thing. ..
. . . No wonder so many fear that Trump will escape his current predicament scot-free, with a foregone acquittal at his impeachment trial in the GOP-controlled Senate and a pull-from-behind victory in November, buoyed by a booming economy, fractious Democrats, and a stacked Electoral College. The enablers and apologists who have facilitated his triumph over the rule of law happily agree. John Kennedy, the Louisiana senator who parrots Vladimir Putins talking points in his supine defense of Trump, acts as if there will never be a reckoning. While he has no relation to the president whose name he incongruously bears, his every craven statement bespeaks a confidence that history will count him among the knights of the buffet table in the gilded Mar-a-Lago renovation of Camelot. He is far from alone.
If we can extricate ourselves even briefly from our fatalistic fog, however, we might give some credence to a wider view. For all the damage inflicted since Inauguration Day 2017, America is still standing, a majority of Americans disapprove of Trump, and the laws of gravity, if not those of the nation, remain in full force. Moral gravity may well reassert its pull, too, with time. Rather than being the end of American history as we know it, the Trump presidency may prove merely a notorious chapter in that history. Heedless lapdogs like Kennedy, Devin Nunes, and Lindsey Graham are acting now as if there is no tomorrow, but tomorrow will come eventually, whatever happens in the near future, and Judgment Day could arrive sooner than they think. That judgment will be rendered by an ever-more demographically diverse America unlikely to be magnanimous toward cynical politicians who prioritized pandering to Trumps dwindling all-white base over the common good.
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All cults come to an end, often abruptly, and Trumps Republican Party is nothing if not a cult. While cult leaders are generally incapable of remorse . . . their followers almost always pay a human and reputational price once the leader is toppled. . . .Whether these enablers joined his administration in earnest, or aided and abetted it from elite perches in politics, Congress, the media, or the private sector, they will be remembered for cheering on a leader whose record in government (thus far) includes splitting up immigrant families and incarcerating their children in cages; encouraging a spike in racist, xenophobic, and anti-Semitic vigilantes; leveraging American power to promote ethnic cleansing abroad and punish political opponents at home; actively inciting climate change and environmental wreckage; and surrendering Americas national security to an international rogues gallery of despots. That selective short list doesnt take into account any new White House felonies still to come, any future repercussions here and abroad of Trumps actions to date, or any previous foul deeds that have so far eluded public exposure. . . . Trumps collaborators will one day be viewed through the long lens of history like Nixons collaborators before them and the various fools, opportunists, and cowards who tried to appease Hitler in America, England, and France before that. Once Trump has vacated the Oval Office, and possibly for decades thereafter, his government, like any other deposed strongmans, will be subjected to a forensic colonoscopy to root out buried crimes, whether against humanity or the rule of law or both. With time, everything will come out it always does. With time, the ultimate fates of those brutalized immigrant and refugee families will emerge in full. And Trumps collaborators, our Vichy Republicans, will own all of it whether they were active participants in the wrongdoing like Jared Kushner, Stephen Miller, Kirstjen Nielsen, Mike Pompeo, and William Barr, or the so-called adults in the room who stood idly by rather than sound public alarms for the good of the Republic (e.g., Gary Cohn, John Kelly, Rex Tillerson), or those elite allies beyond the White House gates who pretended not to notice administration criminality and moral atrocities in exchange for favors like tax cuts and judicial appointments (from Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan to Franklin Graham and Jerry Falwell Jr.).
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No less a sage than Ted Cruz told friends while preparing his 2016 convention speech that history isnt kind to the man who holds Mussolinis jacket, according to the Politico journalist Tim Albertas account in American Carnage. But so harsh was the bases blowback after he refused to endorse Trump in that address that he has been holding Mussolinis jacket ever since. What are Cruz and all his peers afraid of? Every member of the French Resistance faced the strong possibility of torture, deportation, and death, wrote Charles Kaiser, whose book The Cost of Courage tells of one Resistance family during Vichy. The most a Republican senator risks from opposing a corrupt and racist president is a loss at the polls.. . . Trumps enablers and collaborators are more Londonderry than Hogan. It is too late for them to save their reputations. We must hope that it is not too late to save the country they have betrayed.
janterry
(4,429 posts)and the long arc of history will surely indict them.
But........Dick Cheney
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Trumped up lies (no "yellow cake" enrichment), wars crimes, 1,000's of deaths. Oh but we must "move on." Bullcrap.
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)People want to think that the demographics will get them, but IF that will happen the critical mass won't hit in our lives - the structural issues with the electoral college and gerrymandering along with their unbridled hatred and passion for blowing the country up and the way the the "middle" and "liberal media" indulges their lunacy relentlessly are near impossible barriers to over come.
The fact is that since Nixon their fuckwittery has become worse and the consequences they receive for it smaller and smaller.
We are just stopping the bleeding IF we can win the election (and get him out of the white house) and he faces real justice for what he has done. But, that seems so unlikely, if we can root him out of the white house and is not held to account he will remain a malicious force that continues to tear the country apart himself, and even if we do THIS is now the Republican party ...
Cartoonist
(7,317 posts)The MSM has been their copy boy.
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)nm
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)It's an excellent article and well worth the read. Thanks for sharing it.
I highly doubt the people who need to read it will do so. But if they did, they sadly possess the arrogance, nay hubris, to think it won't apply to them.
I'm inclined to agree with him overall, but fear it will be closer to the Hitler enablers comparison than the Watergate. In other words, the efforts to get past this will have far greater costs to the world as a whole.
MBS
(9,688 posts)The message I got from the article is that Trump enablers more closely resemble Hitler appeasers than Watergate apologists. Certainly, Rich makes the point repeatedly that the damage of the Trump regime is far worse than Watergate.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)He did an excellent job of drawing the comparison with the Hitler appeasers without accusing Trump outright of being a Hitler. I'm not as charitable. I do think Trump is a Hitler wannabe.
Coincidentally, I finished reading "The Remains of the Day" yesterday shortly after having read this article. It left me with a lot to think about in a number of ways. Wish I had a book club to discuss it with.
MBS
(9,688 posts)I've been looking for something new to read. Looks like I should check this one out.Thanks for the tip!
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)I can't remember much about the movie other than enjoying it, so reading the book wasn't spoiled at all. My son gave it to me for Christmas. It's a short novel, but packed with an awful lot to consider. Definitely discussion material. Made me actually wish to be in an English classroom again. For a day. LOL!
empedocles
(15,751 posts)the implications for me, is that 'the appeasers' tend to fear - and hate trump. It's about power, not righteousness.
That does not bode well for trump - [may be hard to get a nixon pass].
Could get really ugly.
When he came down the escalator and people were laughing about it I said he was no joke because he embodied what the republican party was devolving into.
I would say that those in the party who hate/fear him is SUBSTANTIALLY lower than those who who at best "only" get off on what he is/is doing and most often have had their inner fascist enabled.
Lets put it this way - IF he loses in November and IF we can actually get him out of the White House, he will remain the leader of the party and continue to destroy our democracy even while out of office, unless we somehow find the courage and conviction to have him see justice for any of the countless illegal things he has done, and given the passes that Nixon, Reagen, W, Cheney got, the smart money will be HEAVILY on his not seeing justice.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)TheRickles
(2,065 posts)I wonder if we'll ever find out how many Trump-supporting Senators and Congresspeople are being blackmailed to keep them in line. Whether it's about sexual improprieties (pedophilia a la Epstein, Mossad honey traps, closeted gay orientation, etc.) or about financial wrongdoings (bribes, money laundering, etc.), I have a hunch these folks have more than re-election to worry about. But there's not much mention of these possibilities in the mainstream media (yet).
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)We know the Russians hacked the RNC computers as they did the DNC, but never released the emails they retrieved. If I recall correctly, that hack was earlier than the DNC hack so may have contained less campaign-related material. But whatever they got, had to have contained information the party and individuals within the party would prefer remain out of the public's eye.
I also think that people such as Epstein (I'd be surprised if he were a sole source) have compromising material that is in Trump and Putin's hands. Because you know if one has it, the other does as well.
I think there is a massive closet of skeletons somewhere being used as leverage. I realize that sounds rather tinfoil hat of me, but it is a rather simple answer to seemingly inexplicable behavior.
MBS
(9,688 posts)I want it ALL to come out. I pretty much assume that the full truth will be even darker and more appalling than it already seems to be. But no matter what it is, there is no excuse for selling out our democracy, our national security, and, indeed, the fate of the planet for craven personal or partisan concerns.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)I mean, there might be a little of that, but these people are just simply sick and twisted ...
TheRickles
(2,065 posts)calimary
(81,310 posts)That one really got me thinking. I wonder whats hidden in some of those republi-CON closets that trump or his minions know about but are keeping secret (for now). How many of em turned up at one of Jeffrey Epsteins parties?
Often, those yowling the loudest and self-flatulating about how holy or moral they are - turn out to be fucking perverts or traitors. In other words, they ARE what they wrongly accuse others of being. Come to think of it, weve got a so-called pResident like that, right this very minute.
TheRickles
(2,065 posts)Supposedly Graham and McConnell are regulars in the Georgetown gay scene. Not sure why that hasn't been more widely noted in the MSM, only by independent investigative reporters. Friends in high places, perhaps.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)Long but worth the read.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,492 posts)Maybe he's in denial like many Americans and most of our main stream media.
We basically live in a two-bubble world. As progressives, ours is open and exposed to the elements. Faithful Republicans however, live in a bubble built and maintained by the ultra-wealthy and a group of powerful international oligarchs, plutocrats, fascists and dictators in government. Our Republican politicians, UK's Tories, etc. all are their servants, parrots of dogma and minions.
So long as Rethug politicians toe the line and never criticize other Retugs or Rethug policy, they're set for life. Like an insurance policy, they will always be seen as worthy of reward within the bubble after exiting politics and get good paying jobs in media, industry or commerce, big finance/banking/investment houses, think tanks, churches or lobbying firms.
Any of them that commit the mortal sin of disagreeing with the status quo or of openly criticizing a Rethug politician will forever be relegated to common labor, shunned and disgraced in the media. Their families and friends even best watch their backs.
Republicans also make it quite clear by their actions that they don't give a shit about what happens outside their bubble.
So no, Mr. Rich. Those of tRump's people that don't go to jail will simply disappear into the elite woodwork of American and retire quite wealthy. Their churches will further protect them socially, forgive their sins and shower them with accolades.
KY..............
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)unless this country has some kind of crack across the head that wakes it the fuck up, it will be same old same old.
John Bolton, who was instrumental in getting this country into the Iraq debacle is now some kind of hero.
My entire half century on this planet has seen this country indulging right wing fuck wittery, time after time after time after time ...
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Is the MSM doing some soul searching, admitting they were wrong on the Iraq war. They are willing to call a lie a lie today rather than swallowing the lies whole.
Nicole Wallace cut Trump off in mid speech saying he was lying.
Even some on Fox are admitting the truth. They are down to Hannity, Judge Jeannie and poor, pitiful Low Dobbs. Even Tucker and Geraldo are not on board.
Chris Wallace is having a Mayor Pete Town Hall. Second one.
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)Instead, he found a dead end.
No Senate for him!
democrank
(11,096 posts)For some, nothing trumps power.
calimary
(81,310 posts)It will likely happen long after were all dead and the long view of the historians steps in.
I may not live to see that. But my kids will (I even took them both to anti-Iraq war rallies with me when they were young). And their kids will. And theyll remember Mom/Grandma was active in fighting these bastards. And theyll remember she was right.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)amcgrath
(397 posts)That Trumps faithful will see any punishment other than losing some seats. They certainly don't fear retribution from the corporate democrats.
What wakes them in the night with terror, is the knowledge that however he leaves office, Trump will maliciously start to expose every one of theme crimes and corruptions.
The 'knowledge' of their dealings he keeps them in line with, will become his revenge on individuals, the party and the various departments of governments who he will regard as having failed to keep him president for life.
He is more dangerous to the 'establishment' than Jeffery Epstein ever was.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)deserves real respect.
[He also provides a pretty good foundation for hope here].
machoneman
(4,007 posts)and tried for many, many crimes, least of all lying their asses off to the American people.
Southern Blueneck
(75 posts)In addition to Trump himself, I would list McConnell (2), Nunes (3), and Giuliani (4).
But we all know that's not gonna happen!
underpants
(182,826 posts)I thought I'd responded to this thread. Great read.
MBS
(9,688 posts)Response to MBS (Original post)
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MBS
(9,688 posts)Buttigieg was asked this question directly at some town hall and he replied- straight up, no buts- that justice had to be served.